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Sorry for the new thread, but felt like this ought to be pointed out, since 4-13 (now 4-14) keeps being cited as Saleh’s record.

But to help put things in perspective:

Since Saleh took over, the Jets are officially 4-14.

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

That’s a worse stretch than the skid that got universally despised Adam Gase canned.

The other 2 wins came via the heroic performance by MW, whom Saleh (and half the fanbase) apparently despises, and the Jags game coached by non-wuss Riverboat Ron Middleton.

Saleh’s 2 non-MW wins are over TEN and HOU.

Saleh has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticism. It’s all deserved, every bit of it.

He can have “60%” Navy Seals t-shirts printed til the cows come home.  

But in order for his win % to reach that number (60%) — a mark which would qualify him as one of the better head coaches in the league — he would literally have to win the next 18 games in a row.

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1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Sorry for the new thread, but felt like this ought to be pointed out, since 4-13 (now 4-14) keeps being cited as Saleh’s record.

But to help put things in perspective:

Since Saleh took over, the Jets are officially 4-14.

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

That’s a worse stretch than the skid that got universally despised Adam Gase canned.

The other 2 wins came via the heroic performance by MW, whom Saleh (and half the fanbase) apparently despises, and the Jags game coached by non-wuss Riverboat Ron Middleton.

Saleh’s 2 non-MW wins are over TEN and HOU.

Saleh has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticism. It’s all deserved, every bit of it.

He can have “60%” Navy Seals t-shirts printed til the cows come home.  

But in order for his win % to reach that number (60%) — a mark which would qualify him as one of the better head coaches in the league — he would literally have to win the next 18 games in a row.

suddenly Adam terrible Gase does not seem so bad

he won 7 games with MUCH less talent

Joe and his coach took a 7 win team and brought it down to one of the worst in the league 

 

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3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Sorry for the new thread, but felt like this ought to be pointed out, since 4-13 (now 4-14) keeps being cited as Saleh’s record.

But to help put things in perspective:

Since Saleh took over, the Jets are officially 4-14.

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

That’s a worse stretch than the skid that got universally despised Adam Gase canned.

The other 2 wins came via the heroic performance by MW, whom Saleh (and half the fanbase) apparently despises, and the Jags game coached by non-wuss Riverboat Ron Middleton.

Saleh’s 2 non-MW wins are over TEN and HOU.

Saleh has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticism. It’s all deserved, every bit of it.

He can have “60%” Navy Seals t-shirts printed til the cows come home.  

But in order for his win % to reach that number (60%) — a mark which would qualify him as one of the better head coaches in the league — he would literally have to win the next 18 games in a row.

Good point!  So Brian Daboll only trails Saleh by 2 wins (instead of 3), despite having coached 17 fewer games.

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30 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

Calls for speculation.

We do not know what the result would have been had Zach not been injured.

To re-quote my favorite "The Matrix" quote:  “No, what happened happened and couldn’t have happened any other way."

Stick to facts.  Not speculation and fantasy.

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Not sure what the point of the OP is ... a desire to have Mike White be named the starter ?? Or a desire for Mike White to be assigned to solve world peace ? Perhaps it's really to come out and declare himself/herself as a parent or lover of Mike White ?

Saleh has 4 wins .. period.

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8 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Not sure what the point of the OP is ... a desire to have Mike White be named the starter ?? Or a desire for Mike White to be assigned to solve world peace ? Perhaps it's really to come out and declare himself/herself as a parent or lover of Mike White ?

Saleh has 4 wins .. period.

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His point is that the Jets won 4 games in 2021.  For the Jaguars game both Saleh and Calabrese were unable to coach due to covid protocols, so Middleton was the head coach for one of those four wins and Saleh's head coaching record is actually 3-14. Period

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14 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Lol we've reached peak Jets ... again ... the cretins that worship Gase's perennial sub mediocrity are comong out fo their far too shallow graves.

 

Friday The 13Th Horror GIF by lilcozynostril

 

I wouldn’t use Gase to fertilize my lawn. 

That's probably the only thing I would use Gase for.

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1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Sorry for the new thread, but felt like this ought to be pointed out, since 4-13 (now 4-14) keeps being cited as Saleh’s record.

But to help put things in perspective:

Since Saleh took over, the Jets are officially 4-14.

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

That’s a worse stretch than the skid that got universally despised Adam Gase canned.

The other 2 wins came via the heroic performance by MW, whom Saleh (and half the fanbase) apparently despises, and the Jags game coached by non-wuss Riverboat Ron Middleton.

Saleh’s 2 non-MW wins are over TEN and HOU.

Saleh has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticism. It’s all deserved, every bit of it.

He can have “60%” Navy Seals t-shirts printed til the cows come home.  

But in order for his win % to reach that number (60%) — a mark which would qualify him as one of the better head coaches in the league — he would literally have to win the next 18 games in a row.

I'm pretty sure that Zach Wilson was the QB when they beat the Jaguars last year and The "great" Mike White didnt take a snap in that game. Mike white won one game against Cincinnati which had no game film on him and played a soft zone all game. 

The next week the Colts figured him out even though he did look good before getting hurt. Then the Bills exposed his weaknesses as a QB which is why he is a third string QB where he belongs.

This argument lack basis for many reasons one being that this team was stripped down to its foundations, as it should have been, and it takes a season or three to excel when you are changing your schemes and adding new talent across the board as the Jets have done.

Maybe some patience and less whining from our fan base would be a good thing.

Just saying...

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1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Why on earth would you change a coaches record based on a back up QB winning? Dumb.

Same reason that we have expressions like "dropped touchdowns" and "should have been intercepted".

If you ignore some of the data, the picture looks better / worse (to suit whatever argument you are trying to make).

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1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Sorry for the new thread, but felt like this ought to be pointed out, since 4-13 (now 4-14) keeps being cited as Saleh’s record.

But to help put things in perspective:

Since Saleh took over, the Jets are officially 4-14.

If it wasn’t for Mike White, though, the reality is Robert Saleh would be 2-15 as the HC of the NYJ.

That’s a worse stretch than the skid that got universally despised Adam Gase canned.

The other 2 wins came via the heroic performance by MW, whom Saleh (and half the fanbase) apparently despises, and the Jags game coached by non-wuss Riverboat Ron Middleton.

Saleh’s 2 non-MW wins are over TEN and HOU.

Saleh has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticism. It’s all deserved, every bit of it.

He can have “60%” Navy Seals t-shirts printed til the cows come home.  

But in order for his win % to reach that number (60%) — a mark which would qualify him as one of the better head coaches in the league — he would literally have to win the next 18 games in a row.

Do we also remove all the games that were lost with White / Flacco playing?

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Enough with this piling on with Saleh.  The guy was handed a sh*t roster.  JD has been dismantling the roster and has been infusing young talent the past couple of years...I don't know, don't we have one of the youngest if not the youngest roster in the league?  On top of that, there's been absolutely no stabilization at the QB position and the O line is a guess who's playing or not playing on any given week.  How do you win with all this crap going on?  Media and fans are having a field day with this "handing out receipts" BS.  He should have kept his mouth shut, but the frustration he must be feeling I'm surprised he hasn't said more.  One game into the season...can we give him a healthy roster before we tar and feather the guy?!  I put blame on JD because this former O line player should have taken care of this position pronto.  

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By your QB logic, then shouldn't the games that Flacco started not count either? or is that math only applied to losses?  and let's not forget the games he didn't coach, Ron Middleton says hi!

I'm not here to throw support behind Saleh, I still have hope that things can get better, but to be fair they totally stripped this team down to nothing...  

 

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1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Why on earth would you change a coaches record based on a back up QB winning? Dumb.

Point is the coach is incompetent.

He only played MW because he had no choice.  Obviously, he would have started Flacco if he could have.

He’s still 3-14 if you include the MW game.

Whoop-dee-doo.

Should we commission a statue in his honor?

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8 minutes ago, Jetstream said:

By your QB logic, then shouldn't the games that Flacco started not count either? or is that math only applied to losses?  and let's not forget the games he didn't coach, Ron Middleton says hi!

I'm not here to throw support behind Saleh, I still have hope that things can get better, but to be fair they totally stripped this team down to nothing...  

 

No.  It was his decision to start Flacco.

He could have started MW.

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