RevisIsland610 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, JTJet said: That's fair as well. But like I've said, I wont be happy until this guy is at minimum above .500 I wouldn't count on him being around long enough for that. I'm with you. The Jets were the recipient of the Browns clown show the last 2 minutes and Saleh is still a bad HC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, RevisIsland610 said: I wouldn't count on him being around long enough for that. I'm with you. The Jets were the recipient of the Browns clown show the last 2 minutes and Saleh is still a bad HC. Wow...such a bad take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, FootballLove said: Cimini just posted that our come from behind win after being down 13 with under 2 mins hasn't happened in well over 2000 NFL games. Lets just agree it's the best come back since Vinny and the Jets in the Mericle in the Meadowlands (look it up on utube!) That stat is only relevant to the final 2 minutes of the game. There have been plenty more impressive 4th quarter comebacks that didnt rely on the opponents ineptitude. FFS a more impressive comeback literally happened today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Only Jet Fans would want to fire a coach after a miracle win. First of all, he isn't getting fired after two games in his second season. Secondly, can we wait until our next loss (probably not a long wait) before we call for his head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Wow...such a bad take. Nothing I said was unreasonable. The Jets were down by 13 points with less than 2 minutes to go. The Browns did so many things wrong it was almost impossible to be that bad in such a short time. They had a 99.96% chance of winning that game and they blew it with their clown show antics. I am thrilled with the win but that does not make Saleh a good coach all of a sudden. I have zero faith in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: Nothing I said was unreasonable. The Jets were down by 13 points with less than 2 minutes to go. The Browns did so many things wrong it was almost impossible to be that bad in such a short time. They had a 99.96% chance of winning that game and they blew it with their clown show antics. I am thrilled with the win but that does not make Saleh a good coach all of a sudden. I have zero faith in him. It's the NFL - games are won and lost, every week, on the edge of a coin. You can look at this game multiple ways and say if it goes one way or the other Jets can run away with it or get blown out. Jets made the plays at the right time to win the game. Can't look at one play - and make a statement like that - just too competitive and tight of a league. At least that's the way I see it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's the NFL - games are won and lost, every week, on the edge of a coin. You can look at this game multiple ways and say if it goes one way or the other Jets can run away with it or get blown out. Jets made the plays at the right time to win the game. Can't look at one play - and make a statement like that - just too competitive and tight of a league. At least that's the way I see it... This wasn't any NFL win. This was a miracle. The Browns had a 99.96% chance of winning the game until the circus showed up in Cleveland. Chubb should have just downed the ball at the 1 instead of scoring. Game over. They also missed the PAT. Then they allowed an 80 yard pass to a wide open receiver. They then failed to recover an on sides kick and to top it off they allowed another TD in the last minute. Again, I'm thrilled with this miracle win but the Jets would lose 999 times out of a 1000 in this same situation. This does not change my opinion of this HC one bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: This wasn't any NFL win. This was a miracle. The Browns had a 99.96% chance of winning the game until the circus showed up in Cleveland. Chubb should have just downed the ball at the 1 instead of scoring. Game over. They also missed the PAT. Then they allowed an 80 yard pass to a wide open receiver. They then failed to recover an on sides kick and to top it off they allowed another TD in the last minute. Again, I'm thrilled with this miracle win but the Jets would lose 999 times out of a 1000 in this same situation. This does not change my opinion of this HC one bit. It's either black or white with most of this forum. If you criticize things, you're an evil Jet hater. The chain of events that had to happen for this win was mind boggling. A good coach, even a mediocre coach generally doesnt need to rely on another team's MASSIVE ineptitude and bad fortune to win a game. Saleh is currently 5-14 as our head coach, that is all that matters until we... A - String together wins where we play complimentary football for 4 quarters. B - Show massive improvement at the QB position and not rely on a fluke Flacco game. C - Make the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Hex said: If you can find it im shocked @oatmeal didnt bump it after GW drop that pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyduhamelshouse Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 bob saleh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, freestater said: That sideline dust up between Quinnen and others was a very bad reflection of the leadership. Its unraveling after 1 quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Boob Saleh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 2:59 PM, jetstream23 said: Do you just cross off Bowles, Gase, etc. and put Saleh on the same airplane banner, or do you just make a new one? Keep the old one because you don't want to waste too many trees making banners to fire Jets' coaches. Probable will be wanting to fire the new coach next year right about this time too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 If this keeps up fire the DC before Saleh to see if there’s any improvement the rest of the season. If not, make a decision at the end of the year. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, JTJet said: That sideline dust up between Quinnen and others was a very bad reflection of the leadership. Its unraveling after 1 quarter. A dust up reflects bad leadership? I like to see some fire. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 How's that whole building a perennial contender thing going, Bob? Still got those receipts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: A dust up reflects bad leadership? I like to see some fire. Absolutely it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: How's that whole building a perennial contender thing going, Bob? Still got those receipts? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 They need to fire Ulbrich… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pointman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 8:44 PM, bostonmajet said: Only Jet Fans would want to fire a coach after a miracle win. First of all, he isn't getting fired after two games in his second season. Secondly, can we wait until our next loss (probably not a long wait) before we call for his head? How about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/18/2022 at 4:15 PM, Yucatan Jetfan said: You can shut up now. Go stand in the corner Sent from my TFY-LX3 using Tapatalk On 9/18/2022 at 4:16 PM, Joe W. Namath said: What a pathetic thread On 9/18/2022 at 4:18 PM, chirorob said: This thread aged better than any thread in the history of aging threads. On 9/18/2022 at 4:24 PM, thshadow said: The only way this thread could have been better is if the OP said "And Garret Wilson sucks, that drop cost us the game" Seems like its aging just fine to me. Welcome back to Earth gentlemen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: Seems like its aging just fine to me. Welcome back to Earth gentlemen. Its almost like that win last week could be called a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, JTJet said: Seems like its aging just fine to me. Welcome back to Earth gentlemen. False. You don’t fire a coach after a year. Building from the ground up takes time. If at the end of next year the team is still trash then get rid of him. Knee jerk reactions don’t aid in long term success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, JTJet said: Seems like its aging just fine to me. Welcome back to Earth gentlemen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, freestater said: Its almost like that win last week could be called a fluke. We are only 1-2 by the optics. We are most certainly actually 0-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, BurntDice said: False. You don’t fire a coach after a year. Building from the ground up takes time. If at the end of next year the team is still trash then get rid of him. Knee jerk reactions don’t aid in long term success. End of NEXT YEAR??? Do you watch all the games? Serious question, not trying to be mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RoadFan said: They need to fire Ulbrich… that would do absolutely nothing...he is just a puppet for Saleh D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, BurntDice said: False. You don’t fire a coach after a year. Building from the ground up takes time. If at the end of next year the team is still trash then get rid of him. Knee jerk reactions don’t aid in long term success. You most certainly can fire a coach after 1 year, even so, I'm advocating to fire him after 2 years anyways. Nothing knee jerk when the team has shown absolutely zero improvement from Salehs game 1 to game 20. Same sh*t every game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, pointman said: End of NEXT YEAR??? Do you watch all the games? Serious question, not trying to be mean. Yes at the end of year 3. Completely turning over the CS means all new systems on O and D. This has been proven to be a killer to QBS and teams in general. If he was fired now like the op is suggesting then that’s 3 new systems in 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, JTJet said: You most certainly can fire a coach after 1 year, even so, I'm advocating to fire him after 2 years anyways. Nothing like jerk when the team has shown absolutely zero improvement from Salehs game 1 to game 20. Same sh*t every game. 2 years is a long time. If you can't tell if someone is the guy or not after 34 games, the answer is that he is not the guy. Simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, JTJet said: You most certainly can fire a coach after 1 year, even so, I'm advocating to fire him after 2 years anyways. Nothing knee jerk when the team has shown absolutely zero improvement from Salehs game 1 to game 20. Same sh*t every game. The team is playing with a backup qb. Did you really expect to have a winning record with Flacco starting 3 weeks in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, BurntDice said: Yes at the end of year 3. Completely turning over the CS means all new systems on O and D. This has been proven to be a killer to QBS and teams in general. If he was fired now like the op is suggesting then that’s 3 new systems in 3 years If he finishes this season anywhere near he did last, he needs to go. He has had a lot given to him and a real head coach would win games. Turnover is a part of life and football. A winning coach doesn't use that as a crutch. He wins. Saleh has a chance this year, but if he finishes like last then he is what he is. No need to make all of us suffer an entire 2023 season as well. None of us are getting any younger. Football is for fun. This isn't fun. Turn over and over and over until we find the right people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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