RutgersJetFan Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's impressive how badly Direct TV screwed the pooch. They had the exclusive Sunday Ticket license or DECADES and failed miserably at providing a streaming option to the masses as the world was clearly moving that direction. Was it incompetence or arrogance? Neither. AT&T bought them and then stopped caring once the Warner merger happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Neither. AT&T bought them and then stopped caring once the Warner merger happened. I’ll miss Dish. Never had a Satellite dish but the $130 streaming with a valid college EMail is like cash back on their tuition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLJ Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Everyone has Amazon prime at this point. Amazon would be the easy choice here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 56 minutes ago, DLJ said: Everyone has Amazon prime at this point. Amazon would be the easy choice here. Just tired of businesses like the NFL trying to shoe horn people into a ‘choice’ Which limits distribution. A lot of people have YouTube TV, a lot have Apple TV, alot have Disney and a lot have DirectTV. Just sell it to each of them and let them set the price for them to make a profit. It’s better for consumers that way. Consumers of NFL Sunday Ticket are not one huge audience of people that want to be shepherded to another provider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Rooting for Google here. Amazon freezes all the time during TNF. Meanwhile YouTubeTV has been top notch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 This is all terrible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Either one is fine with me. NFL really needs a single streaming service with all the games and no blackouts though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Anyone but Apple !!! One can only wish for Apple to turn rotten to the core and fade away... Where is that company that comes out with something new and all the millennials turn their backs on Apple lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 7:40 AM, Integrity28 said: Amazon winning it would suck. Direct TV is awful as the current carrier, mostly because getting it without their normal service is wonky. I did it thru my PlayStation. It jumping to Amazon would theoretically improve access to it, but Amazon Video is hands down the worst performing app in the Firestick. It almost always crashes while trying to browse. I buy stuff on Amazon, then sync it to Mivies Anywhere to watch it. I gave up on all of their streaming shows. Too frustrating. Probably switching to Roku after Christmas. So… At least it’d work with Google. Amazon is the worst performing app in every platform. The UI sucks the support sucks because none of them know WTF they are talking about and in that case I would be rooting for Google and You Tube TV but they would have to open up a hell of a lot of bandwidth to make this work because they have some troubles now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 6:54 AM, Barry McCockinner said: The Amazon app on xbox works great. Never had a problem with it and TNF is the best streaming sport experience I've seen. Maybe it's just the firestick amazon app that sucks? Or the firestick? Amazon app on Apple TV is by far the worst app for streaming and ease of use. Utter garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Either service will see a price hike if they win it, but at&t is a poorly run company so i suppose it’s better than paying for the sunday ticket either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I don’t get how this can be allowed with the huge delays that still occur in streaming. It’s a really bad thing for live sports — doubly so when our phones are a portal into instant info. Seems weird the NFL would do this. Lotta people are gonna be a minute or more behind games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, DireJet said: I don’t get how this can be allowed with the huge delays that still occur in streaming. It’s a really bad thing for live sports — doubly so when our phones are a portal into instant info. Seems weird the NFL would do this. Lotta people are gonna be a minute or more behind games. $$$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: $$$ Just mind boggling — especially with all the sports gambling that has a HUGE live market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, DireJet said: I don’t get how this can be allowed with the huge delays that still occur in streaming. It’s a really bad thing for live sports — doubly so when our phones are a portal into instant info. Seems weird the NFL would do this. Lotta people are gonna be a minute or more behind games. It's 2022. People want to stream everything and the numbers will only continue to skew that way. Many people don't have cable anymore. It's not a big deal to be on a stream delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's 2022. People want to stream everything and the numbers will only continue to skew that way. Many people don't have cable anymore. It's not a big deal to be on a stream delay. Agree 99% The one caveat is gambling. I don't bet on sports but a friend told me that all these betting sites like MGM and DraftKings are heading towards really intricate betting options like placing bets on individual plays, etc. If it's 3rd and 6 and you want to bet whether a team converts then you really better not have any kind of delay, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: It's 2022. People want to stream everything and the numbers will only continue to skew that way. Many people don't have cable anymore. It's not a big deal to be on a stream delay. Stream delay is bad if you’re betting on live sports. Also bad if you have a lot of people texting you that are on cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Agree 99% The one caveat is gambling. I don't bet on sports but a friend told me that all these betting sites like MGM and DraftKings are heading towards really intricate betting options like placing bets on individual plays, etc. If it's 3rd and 6 and you want to bet whether a team converts then you really better not have any kind of delay, right? Sports betting apps have the quickest updates on earth. The line will instantly move and you’ll know the outcome of a play based on that (even if the play-by-play tracker isn’t updated yet). Not sure how they get it so quickly. It’s wired directly in or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Agree 99% The one caveat is gambling. I don't bet on sports but a friend told me that all these betting sites like MGM and DraftKings are heading towards really intricate betting options like placing bets on individual plays, etc. If it's 3rd and 6 and you want to bet whether a team converts then you really better not have any kind of delay, right? Yeah, I’d gather over 90% of people are betting these completely blind. Maybe state regulators didn’t understand the concept but the betting apps are always way ahead of a stream and slightly ahead of cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, DireJet said: Stream delay is bad if you’re betting on live sports. Also bad if you have a lot of people texting you that are on cable. why can’t they delay the cable feed by a minute? That way cable and streaming are synced up 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said: why can’t they delay the cable feed by a minute? That way cable and streaming are synced up 🤷♂️ lol cable companies are viciously competitive. Maybe if YouTube paid them a few hundred million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 10:06 PM, Bugg said: If you are an out of market fan, I get why Sunday Ticket works. Had it for a few years, but it's really too much, again, unless you have no alternative. But otherwise Red Zone is all you need. Find myself watching the Jets and then switching to RZ when that game is over or they aren't playing. This. I had the Sunday Ticket for two years. The first year was free after changing to DirectTV for a service. Too much money when I only really carried for the Patriots' game. And I usually ended up watching the RZ 90% of the time. It is far more compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Looks like Google/Youtube has won https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-announces-deal-to-make-youtube-the-exclusive-provider-of-nfl-sunday-ticket-beginning-in-2023/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Was rooting for Amazon in this one. Now I have to get YouTube TV…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, peebag said: Looks like Google/Youtube has won https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-announces-deal-to-make-youtube-the-exclusive-provider-of-nfl-sunday-ticket-beginning-in-2023/ Better than Apple I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Really excited for this, could be a huge partnership for youtube channels if it's anything like the Prime Thursday games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Was rooting for Amazon in this one. Now I have to get YouTube TV…. Get a cracked firestick : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, prime21 said: Get a cracked firestick : ) I've always found the NFL games to be pretty bad over the cracked firesticks, maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Too many people on the stream at the same time makes it unreliable. Great for all other programming though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 17 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Agree 99% The one caveat is gambling. I don't bet on sports but a friend told me that all these betting sites like MGM and DraftKings are heading towards really intricate betting options like placing bets on individual plays, etc. If it's 3rd and 6 and you want to bet whether a team converts then you really better not have any kind of delay, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 9:23 PM, greenwave81 said: Exactly…me too, but I go back to 1994. not sure why the NFL is looking for an exclusive deal here. Figure out your price point for any provider that wants to offer it to their subscribers…say $1 bill/yr. Then let the companies figure out how to make money on the product they buy from the NFL. But make it ONE product. Don’t want to have Amazon to watch on Thursday for example. When companies get exclusive deals, customers usually get screwed. I’m paying for DirecTV for the NFL package and paying a lot more for regular service just for the privilege. Perhaps ESPN/Disney, Google, Apple and even DirecTV could continue to make money if they each paid the NFL $1 Bill/yr based on what their individual subscribers want. I think the exclusive part makes it much more valuable to the provider and in turn the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: That last part, the delay, is the most crippling patt for me. It's about a play behind. When doing a stream it's frustrating to see comments about plays that I haven't seen yet. Idk how they could possibly fix that without going through coaxle wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This might be easier for me to get so we shall see. I'll have to look into it. I've never really done streaming of tv anything before believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Slick Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Great news for me. I'm cancelling Directv after the last weekend of the regular season. The Jets and the Ticket are the only reason I've put up with my signal going out whenever it rains. I really hope he right about the standalone a la carte purchase option because I don't want Youtube TV just the Sunday Ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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