Popular Post ncjetman Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 I’m ready to puke - this is the worst defensive scheme in football - simplistic and completely predictable - no adjustments no misdirection nothing - I hold Saleh completely responsible and something has to change and change fast - you can hate on Ulbrich all you want but this is Saleh’s defense - period. I’m also sick of all the complaining about the offense - LaFleur is a good young coach who is calling plays with his hands tied behind his back. There is a reason Joe Flacco doesn’t have a starting gig with a qb needy team - most all backup qb’s are either washed up former starters or never has beens - Flacco of course is washed up - excellent guy for a game or two but always exposed over a longer period - and please stop calling ZW a bust - anyone who says they know he’s a bust at this point is either a hater- baiter or just an opinionated moron. We’ll know more over the next few weeks and realistically the jury is still out. And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. It all comes down to this bizarre defensive scheme - every offense we face knows exactly what we’re going to do on every play - we win some sure but we never fool anyone- no creativity - no misdirection - nothing It really makes me sick Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 12 3 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RutgersJetFan Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 Have you considered going outside 2 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 You like Joe Douglas more than the Jets actually winning games. He ******* sucks dude. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, ncjetman said: I’m ready to puke - this is the worst defensive scheme in football - simplistic and completely predictable - no adjustments no misdirection nothing - I hold Saleh completely responsible and something has to change and change fast - you can hate on Ulbrich all you want but this is Saleh’s defense - period. I’m also sick of all the complaining about the offense - LaFleur is a good young coach who is calling plays with his hands tied behind his back. There is a reason Joe Flacco doesn’t have a starting gig with a qb needy team - most all backup qb’s are either washed up former starters or never has beens - Flacco of course is washed up - excellent guy for a game or two but always exposed over a longer period - and please stop calling ZW a bust - anyone who says they know he’s a bust at this point is either a hater- baiter or just an opinionated moron. We’ll know more over the next few weeks and realistically the jury is still out. And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. It all comes down to this bizarre defensive scheme - every offense we face knows exactly what we’re going to do on every play - we win some sure but we never fool anyone- no creativity - no misdirection - nothing It really makes me sick Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I agree with some points. I agree with your points on Saleh and ZW but I do think JD deserves some criticism. He didn’t do enough with the oline. He added weapons which is terrific but the Becton thing is looming large right now. Also his 2020 draft has been a disaster. Now I think the coaches have also hurt Mims but regardless it’s not looking good for JD with that draft 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: You like Joe Douglas more than the Jets actually winning games. He ******* sucks dude. Yeah but he looks like a guy you can have a beer with and knows football. That's what really matters. Not wins. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, ncjetman said: I’m ready to puke - this is the worst defensive scheme in football - simplistic and completely predictable - no adjustments no misdirection nothing - I hold Saleh completely responsible and something has to change and change fast - you can hate on Ulbrich all you want but this is Saleh’s defense - period. I’m also sick of all the complaining about the offense - LaFleur is a good young coach who is calling plays with his hands tied behind his back. There is a reason Joe Flacco doesn’t have a starting gig with a qb needy team - most all backup qb’s are either washed up former starters or never has beens - Flacco of course is washed up - excellent guy for a game or two but always exposed over a longer period - and please stop calling ZW a bust - anyone who says they know he’s a bust at this point is either a hater- baiter or just an opinionated moron. We’ll know more over the next few weeks and realistically the jury is still out. And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. It all comes down to this bizarre defensive scheme - every offense we face knows exactly what we’re going to do on every play - we win some sure but we never fool anyone- no creativity - no misdirection - nothing It really makes me sick Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 hours ago, ncjetman said: And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. My Neg-Rep was entirely in re: this line. Third (fourth) season, and we have the worst Defense and worst O-lines possible. Yes, I too like a few of the skill players. And I loved his trades of Sam and Adams. It's not enough. JD's record is what it is, his complete failures in FA are what they are, his hand-picked Coach (not great) and QB (bad so far, and injury prone) are what they are. A few VERY early good looking O-skill picks does not eliminate a mostly uncompetitive team that cannot compete at the very basics of NFL football. This is JD's team. And it's pretty crap. Pointing that out does not make one a "hate baiter". 7 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Gibby Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 You’re a Jet fan. Keep your expectations low and you won’t be so disappointed. They lost today. I’m not at all surprised. When they do win THEN I’m surprised and happy they won. Today I’m not disappointed. Why? Because my expectations are low. ? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg555 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Jets postgame show got out of control. Gelbs is powerless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Greg555 said: Jets postgame show got out of control. Gelbs is powerless Really? What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, ncjetman said: I’m ready to puke - this is the worst defensive scheme in football - simplistic and completely predictable - no adjustments no misdirection nothing - I hold Saleh completely responsible and something has to change and change fast - you can hate on Ulbrich all you want but this is Saleh’s defense - period. I’m also sick of all the complaining about the offense - LaFleur is a good young coach who is calling plays with his hands tied behind his back. There is a reason Joe Flacco doesn’t have a starting gig with a qb needy team - most all backup qb’s are either washed up former starters or never has beens - Flacco of course is washed up - excellent guy for a game or two but always exposed over a longer period - and please stop calling ZW a bust - anyone who says they know he’s a bust at this point is either a hater- baiter or just an opinionated moron. We’ll know more over the next few weeks and realistically the jury is still out. And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. It all comes down to this bizarre defensive scheme - every offense we face knows exactly what we’re going to do on every play - we win some sure but we never fool anyone- no creativity - no misdirection - nothing It really makes me sick Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Edibles. they help 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Have you considered going outside I did that once. There was a giant ball of fire in the sky, kids everywhere and not on leashes, and everyone gets upset that you're not wearing pants. Would not recommend. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Greg555 said: Jets postgame show got out of control. Gelbs is powerless I need a link lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Ulbrich will be making adjustments in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Saleh brags about our defense being very simple. Very simple D can work if your team is loaded with vet pro bowlers. The D should be simple in the secondary and complex at the line of scrimmage and LBs but the jets have it totally opposite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeremy2020 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Ulbrich will be making adjustments in the offseason. to his zip code? 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Saleh brags about our defense being very simple. Very simple D can work if your team is loaded with vet pro bowlers. The D should be simple in the secondary and complex at the line of scrimmage and LBs but the jets have it totally opposite Pass rush consists of an overpaid collection of JAGs, lining up in the same spot every down, running directly into the blocker in front of them. No stunts, no overloads, no variation. Saleh is supposed to be a defensive coach, but no idea how that can be. JFM should have been benched on the spot and released after the game. His salary is sunk cost. Qant to let these guys know you serious? Instead this moron is smiling in the post game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 hours ago, ncjetman said: And lastly really I’m sick of the JD bashing - he has completely revamped a terrible talent base and again if you can’t appreciate the additions of Gardner/Wilson/Hall/Moore/AVT both Carters etc once again you’re a hate- baiter. One small problem with your logic: JD hired Saleh Youre saying it’s all Saleh’s fault but won’t stand for criticism of the man responsible for making him the head coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Everyone relax. The ZDubs comes back next week and y'all going to see a different team. Just hold tight.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: Everyone relax. The ZDubs comes back next week and y'all going to see a different team. Just hold tight.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, JiFapono said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I'm actually surprised at how easy this is for me. Like, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it did even two years ago. I kinda just shrug my shoulders and move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Spoot-Face said: I'm actually surprised at how easy this is for me. Like, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it did even two years ago. I kinda just shrug my shoulders and move on. The Death of Fandom. The Death of Love. When it no longer matters... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted September 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: The Death of Fandom. The Death of Love. When it no longer matters... My fandom: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Its become apparent that this team is not well-coached. You can’t win consistently with even average coaching. Our coaching is putrid. The GM who once declared he wanted to create the best culture in professional sports, while provided the team with talent has not changed the culture and is responsibility for this mess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 As much as we criticize the defensive scheme, and I think those criticisms are fair and deserved, the system is largely predicated on being able to get pressure with the front four. Douglas is the guy who built the front four. Those guys aren’t getting pressure, and that’s not just coaching. Defense doesn’t have the dudes up front. I hope the communication on the back end gets cleaned up, a lot of new faces in the secondary so while it’s disappointing and not excusable, it’s not terribly surprising. If it doesn’t, guys will be looking for jobs after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, Warfish said: The Death of Fandom. The Death of Love. When it no longer matters... Happened to me with the Knicks. I don't want it to happen with the Jets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: My fandom: If only that coffin said jets on it so they'd be letting you down one last time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I agree with some points. I agree with your points on Saleh and ZW but I do think JD deserves some criticism. He didn’t do enough with the oline. He added weapons which is terrific but the Becton thing is looming large right now. Also his 2020 draft has been a disaster. Now I think the coaches have also hurt Mims but regardless it’s not looking good for JD with that draft Brown, Becton and Fant are injured. What else would you have done this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: If only that coffin said jets on it so they'd be letting you down one last time omg that's perfect. If I were to be buried, I'd 100% put that in my will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Claymation said: Brown, Becton and Fant are injured. What else would you have done this year? Not relied on Becton to begin with for a start so when he inevitably failed I wasn't in a bind and threw money at a senior citizen who went on IR like 30 seconds after signing his contract after my doctors somehow missed the fact that 90% of his bones were cottage cheese. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: You like Joe Douglas more than the Jets actually winning games. He ******* sucks dude. Yeah....This is JD's fault that the offense can't score and the defensive schemes are horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92ShaunEllis92 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I did that once. There was a giant ball of fire in the sky, kids everywhere and not on leashes, and everyone gets upset that you're not wearing pants. Would not recommend. Thank you. Good to know Im not alone on the pants thing ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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