Neilos Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! 3 11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Legend Killa7 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 Wow. Every team should have a backup plan to their backup plan’s backup plan…..Plus, after two weeks, Max Mitchell had higher PFF grades than all three of those guys you just listed.Jets are not playing well, I get it. But a lot of you need to calm the hell down. 13 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Willie White Shoes Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 Thankfully JD did not pay Fant. He has been terrible. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Ekwonu and Cross have had their struggles in pass pro Being handicapped at HC is the bigger problem 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Untouchable Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 Haven’t Ekwonu and Neal graded out as trash in pass protection so far by pretty much every metric imaginable? Meanwhile we drafted a dude in the 4th round who looks like he could be a longterm starter at RT. You’d rather trade in Gardner for one of those guys? Why are some people harping on us not being 3 or 4 deep with starting OT’s and deflecting away from our supposed “defensive guru” HC putting a sh*t defense on the field that is completely undisciplined and he himself looking more and more like a lesser Herm Edwards? 7 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Neilos said: 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! Wirfs instead of Bacon and boom, solved. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Legend Killa7 said: Wow. Every team should have a backup plan to their backup plan’s backup plan….. Plus, after two weeks, Max Mitchell had higher PFF grades than all three of those guys you just listed. Jets are not playing well, I get it. But a lot of you need to calm the hell down. Max Mitchell performing better than any of the other rookie tackles is a dagger in this "we should have drafted a T in the first" narrative. Aside from that, using first round picks for backup players on a rebuilding team is crazy. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Neilos said: 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Legend Killa7 said: Wow. Every team should have a backup plan to their backup plan’s backup plan….. Plus, after two weeks, Max Mitchell had higher PFF grades than all three of those guys you just listed. Jets are not playing well, I get it. But a lot of you need to calm the hell down. Bingo! Full disclosure, I was one of the guys pushing for OT early because of my fears about Becton. Sauce is looking to be 100% the right pick though. NFL teams cannot pour the most valuable of resources like 1st round picks and top free agent dollars into redundancies for players that should be expected to play. Fant, Becton, Brown, Mitchell, McDermott should have been enough to get it done. Couldn’t expect that the three top guys at the position would all be off the field at the same time. They need to draft another OT but doesn’t necessarily need to be in the first round depending on what happens with Fant and Becton in the Spring. Mitchell taken in round 4 could turn out to be the long-term answer at RT. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreenFish Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 No. Sauce was the right pick. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Neilos said: 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! Sauce was the right pick. In just three games you can see that this guy is the real deal. A quiet confidence and talent that might eventually have him considered right up there with the best Jets CBs in history. He thoroughly, thoroughly frustrated Ja’Marr Chase today. I was standing about 50 yards from the guy when he was drafted in Las Vegas, and I’m disappointed in myself that I only reluctantly mustered up a golf clap when he was announced at #4. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTJet Posted September 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, jgb said: Wirfs instead of Bacon and boom, solved. I see my nickname for that turd has finally caught on. This makes my ******* night so much better lol. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Thankfully JD did not pay Fant. He has been terrible. Sometimes I wonder if Fant has been bad because he wasn't paid. If so that's a trash move by Fant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hex said: Sometimes I wonder if Fant has been bad because he wasn't paid. If so that's a trash move by Fant Would be a real cut off your nose to spite your face situation given he’s a free agent after this year. He’s talked about how changing sides is hard for him and they made him do it a bunch in TC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted September 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2022 Sauce is really, really good. The Jets should have stayed put and drafted an OL instead of moving up to take JJ. But how can we complain about Sauce and GW? Their best 1st round picks in forever… 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilos Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 I wasn't complaint about the Sauce pick just pointing out that we are clearly cursed and will always get the sh*tty end of the stick. We could've drafted Trevor last year and he'd have probably gotten injured falling over his hair whilst Zach took his team to the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 21 hours ago, Neilos said: 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 20 hours ago, Hex said: Sometimes I wonder if Fant has been bad because he wasn't paid. If so that's a trash move by Fant Nah, Fant is still dealing with the injury from the end of last season. Stinks that he will miss time to get it semi healthy. I would not want to mess with this kids head any more than they already have, but might be a time to move AVT out there and see what he has. and put Herbig at RG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Then we don’t take Max Mitchell who’s outperfomed Icky. This draft is looking pretty special for JD 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokeFatLonely Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Not surprising that Fant had his best season playing next to AVT who is the best lineman on the team. Should have re-signed Moses and found a less expensive RG to replace Van Roten. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Then we don’t take Max Mitchell who’s outperfomed Icky. This draft is looking pretty special for JD i don't follow this logic if the Jets could double dip at DE with JJ and Clemons they could have double dipped at tackle the problem is that JD thought the Jets were good at tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 whiffed on Wirfs is what killed us. Becton is a massive bust and the 2020 draft was total disaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, bitonti said: i don't follow this logic if the Jets could double dip at DE with JJ and Clemons they could have double dipped at tackle the problem is that JD thought the Jets were good at tackle Sauce was the correct pick there’s no way to argue a tackle. Especially when Douglas hit a home run on a 4th round tackle who’s performing better than the consensus top guys. If you want to blame JD for injuries to Fant and Duane Brown then I guess go for it. But this past draft looks as good as it can get for JD right now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: whiffed on Wirfs is what killed us. Becton is a massive bust and the 2020 draft was total disaster. JD missed a gimme with his first pick in his first draft. He does seem to have settled into the position a bit since then, however. I can’t fault him or any GM for (potentially!) whiffing on a QB. That’s the nature of the beast. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Should have went all in on Trent Williams when we had the chance to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 22 hours ago, Neilos said: 3 tackles injured. Just can't shake the thought that we shouldve taken Ekwonu, Cross or Neal instead or Sauce. But you also know that if we did we'd have 6 Cb's injured!! SAUCE IS THE PLAYA WE NEED. HE'S A DAWG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Sauce was the correct pick there’s no way to argue a tackle. Especially when Douglas hit a home run on a 4th round tackle who’s performing better than the consensus top guys. If you want to blame JD for injuries to Fant and Duane Brown then I guess go for it. But this past draft looks as good as it can get for JD right now Sauce is an awesome player who's basically miscast in the cover 3 zone. QBs avoid him and they move their WR1 away from Sauce. he doesn't produce stats, I struggle to see how the Jets keep him long term. Are they really going to give a hundred million to a guy who has no stats? it's going to be a Jalen Ramsey style trade because JD loves moving assets to contender for picks Even though Sauce is a high quality player, he's a luxury on this team and they just had worse needs, Like left tackle for example Fans turned themselves into knots this offseason talking about how the Sauce pick helps the offense because it gets Zach more chances with the ball Sauce is great, i can't say that enough, he just doesn't help zach as much as LT. 9 minutes ago, jgb said: I can’t fault him or any GM for (potentially!) whiffing on a QB. That’s the nature of the beast. why not fault JD for picking Zach? the knock on him coming out was he was fragile and so far he's proven to be fragile JD has a blind spot for injuries whether it's Carl Lawson (2 ACL tears with CIN before his Achillies), Duane Brown, Ryan Kalil, and of course Becton he favors these boom/bust prospects that often bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, bitonti said: Sauce is an awesome player who's basically miscast in the cover 3 zone. QBs avoid him and they move their WR1 away from Sauce. he doesn't produce stats, I struggle to see how the Jets keep him long term. Are they going to give a hundred million to a guy who no stats? Even though he is a high quality player, they just had worse needs, Like left tackle for example why not fault JD for picking Zach? the knock on him coming out was he was fragile and so far he's proven to be fragile JD has a blind spot for injuries whether it's Carl Lawson (2 ACL tears with CIN before his Achillies), Duane Brown, Ryan Kalil, and of course Becton he favors these boom/bust prospects that often bust Because it’s just so so difficult to extrapolate college performance to the pros. I also did not like him coming out but I’ve been wrong tons on QB prospects as have the likes of Ozzie Newsome, widely hailed as the greatest GM of our generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, bitonti said: the problem is that JD thought the Jets were good at tackle He lost three starting tackles. If two of Becton, Fant, and Brown are playing, they are good. But of course, all three are out. No team is five deep at starting OT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, bitonti said: Sauce is an awesome player who's basically miscast in the cover 3 zone. QBs avoid him and they move their WR1 away from Sauce. he doesn't produce stats, I struggle to see how the Jets keep him long term. Are they really going to give a hundred million to a guy who has no stats? it's going to be a Jalen Ramsey style trade because JD loves moving assets to contender for picks Even though Sauce is a high quality player, he's a luxury on this team and they just had worse needs, Like left tackle for example Fans turned themselves into knots this offseason talking about how the Sauce pick helps the offense because it gets Zach more chances with the ball Sauce is great, i can't say that enough, he just doesn't help zach as much as LT. why not fault JD for picking Zach? the knock on him coming out was he was fragile and so far he's proven to be fragile JD has a blind spot for injuries whether it's Carl Lawson (2 ACL tears with CIN before his Achillies), Duane Brown, Ryan Kalil, and of course Becton he favors these boom/bust prospects that often bust Lol you’re already predicting a Sauce trade after 3 games into his career cause he’s too good? Jets fans are a different type 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 So who should we have passed on? Our lock down corner or the passed WR on the team? Had we drafted another OT half the site would have rented planes to fly fire JD! We are on our 4th LT this year - We lost Becton, replaced him with Brown, and then lost brown. Hindsight and all, should a team have 2 top draft pick players for each spot? Our LT situation and much of the line sucks, but when a team needs everything, it is hard to pass on a top corner and top WR when you already have a high draft pick LT - he drafted an OT, fortunately, as he is starting for us. Had we drafted LT, we probably still sign Brown and we either would be getting killed on D (worse than we are) or our O would be more stagnate than it already is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 They all laughed at us who were vouching for Sewell. @bitonti remembers. Looks like he'll be one of the best players in the league soon enough. Just a machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: They all laughed at us who were vouching for Sewell. @bitonti remembers. Looks like he'll be one of the best players in the league soon enough. Just a machine. Nine difference making position players in the top 13 of that draft. Jets came out with Wilson and the 14th pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Sauce was the correct pick there’s no way to argue a tackle. Especially when Douglas hit a home run on a 4th round tackle who’s performing better than the consensus top guys. If you want to blame JD for injuries to Fant and Duane Brown then I guess go for it. But this past draft looks as good as it can get for JD right now Other than jermaine Johnson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, derp said: Nine difference making position players in the top 13 of that draft. Jets came out with Wilson and the 14th pick. AVT has looked pretty good, the problem is he has to look great given where he was drafted and what we gave up. But yeah if Zach flames out that list of talent is going to be depressing reading for a long time. Lawrence looks like he's taken the jump, albeit it's his first year with an NFL coach. Zach needs to step up or this is going to get so ugly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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