Jets have setup Zach to fail

[Jet Nut]

19 minutes ago, doitny said:

Oh like Flacco had to play with in weeks 1 and 3. But Zach is more mobile so from what I hear  bad OL is no problem for him. 

Lesson of the day

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, More Cowbell said:

I don't  think the OL is as bad as you ate projecting here but it is far from fixed. That said, it is time for these coaches to earn their money. They should know what to expect from thr Pitt D. There is now 3 weeks of film to look at. They should be able to devise some plays based on tendencies at this point. I know it is asking a lot of them to actually game plan specifically  for a team instead of just going the normal route of randomness  thos O seems to play with but this needs to be done. 

That left tackle situation is pretty bad, outside of that it's pretty good on the right side.

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, Lith said:

A good NFL QB can still make plays despite pressure.  And can still execute a game plan despite pressure.  I am not asking him to be perfect. I just would like to see our offensive coaching staff build a game plan for the situation and have him execute it competently.  He does not need to look like Brady or Mahomes.  But if he looks like Luke Falk against Philly that would be unacceptable.

100%.  If pressure gets to him he’ll struggle.  Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be able to make plays.  I’m on the same page here.   

[Jet25]

I expect LT McDermott to scream like a girl to alert Zach Wilson every time a DL is coming right at him from the blindside

[Fantasy Island]

34 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

If the erection you get from calling him BYU lasts longer than four hours...

 

[batman10023]

1 hour ago, y2k8 said:

I expect they will call pass plays that will have the ball coming out fast. They are not going to want him to do too much thinking. Could be a huge game for the slot receivers. Could see a record set for batted balls at the line. 

if the steelers plan on blitzing a ton, i hope we do a lot of screens.   with our RBs we should be very good at them.   i'd like to see this 3-4 times a game.

[More Cowbell]

4 minutes ago, Claymation said:

That left tackle situation is pretty bad, outside of that it's pretty good on the right side.

That's what I mean. Put an extra blocker on that side of the line. I saw one team this week with 6 OL on some Plays. 

[The Crusher]

27 minutes ago, doitny said:

Oh like Flacco had to play with in weeks 1 and 3. But Zach is more mobile so from what I hear  bad OL is no problem for him. 

You mean the dude who just bruised his knee and fragged his meniscus on a blade of turf? Does turf even come in blades? Oh Gawd I hate this team! 

[Claymation]

1 minute ago, More Cowbell said:

That's what I mean. Put an extra blocker on that side of the line. I saw one team this week with 6 OL on some Plays. 

What's is the Cincinnati Bengals?

I'll take "WTF are they doing" for 200 Cowbell.

[playtowinthegame]

1 hour ago, Jet Nut said:

It’s not an excuse, QBs struggle more under duress

[JetPotato]

This offensive line is not good, but it is no worse than Joe Burrow's was last year.

It's time for Zach to show us what he can do.

[kmnj]

sadly the line is terrible  and the excuse is valid and is on joe-sadly though if the line was full of all pros wilson would still suck

 

 

 

[Jets723]

I don’t agree.  Look the issue with the left side of the oline completely sucks no matter who our QB is BUT it is what it is.  We added a ton of weapons for Zach.  I have confidence in the kid BUT it’s sink or swim time.  I have no idea if he is the guy or not.  We will find out this year 

[jgb]

All aboard the pre-excuse express!

[Gastineau Lives]

54 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

 

Ok now I'm...oh you covered that too

[jeremy2020]

Just you wait until he goes to Carolina where he'll have some weaponz and Zach will show everyone!

[Biggs]

A question for the OP.  By the Jets are you refering to the diseased fan base, the GM or the Coaching staff.   Personally I thought he was set up when he agreed to offset language in his contract which I'm sure Woody required and didn't come from Douglas.  

[More Cowbell]

59 minutes ago, Claymation said:

What's is the Cincinnati Bengals?

I'll take "WTF are they doing" for 200 Cowbell.

Trying to block that game from my memory.  Almost worked

[Jetsfan80]

3 hours ago, nj meadowlands said:

OMG HERE COME THE ZACK APOLOGISTS WITH THE EXCUSES LOL CANT MAKE IT UP

Yet that's exactly what's going on and will continue to happen.

It's as if people here forget the entire Darnold era.  This is what Jets fans do.

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Didn’t say Brady didn’t win some games, said they don’t perform as well.  Pulling out wins when struggling isn’t saying you can’t win.  Just the chances are lowered.  Are you seriously claiming QBs don’t struggle more under duress?  
Is it making excuses? 
Sorry, it’s football 101, get to the QB increases your chances of winning 

At this point in Zach's career, yeah, it's absolutely making excuses. And it's no surprise that the excuse grinding has already begun before Zach takes a snap.  He needs to deal with a defective oline like every good NFL QB has to. Why do we Jets fans act like this problem is unique to the Jets?  It's not and other QBs fare well.  This is on Zach.  No excuses.  

[Flea Flicking Frank]

30 minutes ago, jgb said:

All aboard the pre-excuse express!

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

But you just did make it up.  

The OL was an issue for Flacco and will be an issue for ZW or whoever lines up under center

How did you misinterpret his snark this poorly?  lmao.  

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

It’s not excuses but it is a fact,  QBs being hit and harassed don’t perform as well as with protection.  Brady struggled  in games he was harassed and Mahomes did in the SB when his protection broke down.  
Its why we scream for our DL to sack and harass a QB.  
it’s not an excuse, you can still play or win even

QBs have a major part to play in how many hits they take.  Getting the ball out quickly is one.  I've also been told Zach Wilson has elite "escapability", so that's another.  

It's why Sacks are considered a QB stat.  The good ones tend to take fewer.  

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Yet Brady, the all time GOAT and Mahomes the current GOAT couldn’t prevail.  It’s not an excuse, QBs struggle with pressure, it affects their games.   Thats a fact.  That’s why teams try to get pressure and why it’s not an excuse, it’s something QBs have to deal with.  Just if he’s constantly being hit it’s going to affect anyone’s game but it’s part of the game.  

Mahomes still won an AFC Title with his sh*t OL.  

[Dcat]

It's amazing that people are defending the legitimacy of this excuse before he even needs an excuse.  LOL.  Does every fan base with a bad starting QB do that?

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

It's amazing that people are defending the legitimacy of this excuse before he even needs an excuse.  LOL.  Does every fan base with a bad starting QB do that?

Better keep Zach out another week as a precaution

[slimjasi]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Mahomes still won an AFC Title with his sh*t OL.  

Didn't they lose 1 or two linemen in the AFC title game, though? 

I think those injuries killed them for that SB

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

Didn't they lose 1 or two linemen in the AFC title game, though? 

I think those injuries killed them for that SB

I was under the impression they had OL issues all postseason, but you're probably right.  

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I was under the impression they had OL issues all postseason, but you're probably right.  

They may have  - I do remember pundits making a big deal out of their OL injuries headed into the SB and a lot of sharps I knew in my previous life liked TB in the game

[jgb]

20 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

You know how you can identify trolls? They either ignore or display an open aversion to facts.

[Flea Flicking Frank]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

You know how you can identify trolls? They either ignore or display an open aversion to facts.

Yes, clearly, the excuse train gif was just straight up you trying to have good football dialogue, clearly

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Yes, clearly, the excuse train gif was just straight up you trying to have good football dialogue, clearly

I’ve posted tons and tons of statistics and analyses thereof, guess what those posts also result in: being called a troll.

The charge is content not behavior based. No other logical conclusion can be drawn.

[jgb]

19 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Better keep Zach out another week as a precaution

Precaution to keep hope alive another week before reality sweeps across the lands like El Niño.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Joe Douglas is hard at work procuring 5 HOF offensive linemen in their primes who never get injured and a HOF FB and blocking TE

Then, when Zach gets back to 110%, it will be safe to put him out on the field 

This is also the point at which Saleh’s receipts will be cashed / thrown in faces 

[Flea Flicking Frank]

8 minutes ago, jgb said:

I’ve posted tons and tons of statistics and analyses thereof, guess what those posts also result in: being called a troll.

The charge is content not behavior based. No other logical conclusion can be drawn.