Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 This is after drafting a shut down corner at #4 and adding another high end corner in free agency. This just screams incompetence to me. edit: linking for those who aren't familiar with dvoa https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/team-defense/2022/regular 12 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Who are the FootballOutsiders and why should I care? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 Doing this with good corners is arguably an impressive accomplishment. 5 1 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 This team is literally the worst team I've ever seen at making a stop on 3rd down and I've seen some pathetic teams in that department mostly from the Jets of recent past. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fantasy Island Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 bOBBY sALAD IS A FRAUD. 4 1 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted September 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, peebag said: Who are the FootballOutsiders and why should I care? You mean aside from one of the most long standing and well respected football analytics sites? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trotter Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 You are all glass half empty. I prefer to focus on 6th in st. see what 4 fg’s get you who needs td’s 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: This is after drafting a shut down corner at #4 and adding another high end corner in free agency. This just screams incompetence to me. Yes, drafting a shut down corner and playing him in zone. It’s like paying a high end call girl to walk your dog. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post faba Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 For a coach hired as a defensive minded coach this defense has been pathetic. We get teams to third down but it does not matter we let them convert anyway and how many personal foul penalties to give a team first down are we going to commit 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I’ll be the dumb one, what is DVOA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Yes, drafting a shut down corner and okaying him in zone. It’s like paying a high end call girl to walk your dog. The dog isn’t going to walk himself!! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, The Crusher said: Yes, drafting a shut down corner and okaying him in zone. It’s like paying a high end call girl to walk your dog. To some men that's their thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 After watching the giants get abused by Cooper rush I’m pretty sure they are 32nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I have zero issue with the Gardner pick. Zero. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Joejet said: I’ll be the dumb one, what is DVOA Defense-adjusted Value Over Average, it takes into account the quality of offensive opponent. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saul Goodman Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 Ulbrich will be the escape goat following this season. A midseason firing is even possible. Unfortunately that doesn’t fix the root cause, which is Saleh. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Claymation said: Defense-adjusted Value Over Average, it takes into account the quality of offensive opponent. Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: Ulbrich will be the escape goat following this season. A midseason firing is even possible. Unfortunately that doesn’t fix the root cause, which is Saleh. He runs such a vanilla defense With the rules, schemes, and talent on opposing offenses, it's a defensive system bound to fail 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, peebag said: Who are the FootballOutsiders and why should I care? oh well if YOU'VE never heard of them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: oh well if YOU'VE never heard of them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: After watching the giants get abused by Cooper rush I’m pretty sure they are 32nd That's the Ravens D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyLV Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Claymation said: Why is this shocking. On every 3rd and long, we literally give a 6 to 7 yard cushion in off coverage rush 4 and then the corners start by backpeddling. It is a system so totally focused on not giving up a big play and "keeping things in front of you" that it makes the 3rd and long coverage so incredibly soft it's almost hard to not make the first down. I am just not a fan of our defensive scheme at all. It is entirely predicated on having an elite 4 man DL that is 2 deep and we simply do not have that. Our Cover 3 defense makes Tampa 2 seem like an overly aggressive defense. What's even more bizarre is that the defense is designed to be effective by protecting 2nd tier CBs so that more money can be spent on the DL. Well we went out and signed one of the best man corners in the NFL in Reed and then drafted the #1 man corner in the draft and then stick them in soft Cover 3 pass off zone. What in the total FA-UCK? 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: After watching the giants get abused by Cooper rush I’m pretty sure they are 32nd I mean, feel free to just make things up if you want. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, Claymation said: Defense-adjusted Value Over Average, it takes into account the quality of offensive opponent. But it also makes assumptions about the quality of the defenses and offenses outside of stats so it becomes a circular statistic. It is supposed to work itself out with more data but not sure it ever does. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bronx said: Wtf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Bright side…can only go up from here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 PFF guys were talking about the difficulty of grading Sauce Gardner because the breakdowns in communication and scheme in the Jets secondary are so absurd that it’s hard to pinpoint who to blame, and that goes back to last year, too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: PFF guys were talking about the difficulty of grading Sauce Gardner because the breakdowns in communication and scheme in the Jets secondary are so absurd that it’s hard to pinpoint who to blame, and that goes back to last year, too. It’s almost as if this wasn’t covered as much as it should have been in preseason! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 I don’t know if this fixes anything, but Ulbrich needs to be fired, or at least demoted. Read this and tell me it doesn’t make you want to claw your own eyes out: 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I mean, feel free to just make things up if you want. I mean, feel free to take that one measure as gospel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted September 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I don’t know if this fixes anything, but Ulbrich needs to be fired, or at least demoted. Read this and tell me it doesn’t make you want to claw your own eyes out: Snakes in the weed. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 At this point, the fans are so beat down we don’t ask for much Just have some semblance of competence Saleh can’t oblige…he is the absolute worst ?? his D was 32nd last year too 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I don’t know if this fixes anything, but Ulbrich needs to be fired, or at least demoted. Read this and tell me it doesn’t make you want to claw your own eyes out: Prime example of a collection of 100 words or so without saying anything of value. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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