Popular Post slats Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: You’re an idiot. Go do your own homework, I’m not going to do it for you. In his first four games as a Panther, Darnold was 99/146 (67.8%) for 1189 yards and 5 TDs and 3 ints for a traditional passer rating of 95.4. Darnold had three 300+ yard games at that point, Mayfield has had three sub-200 yard games at the same marker. Glad to help. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Nothing happened, he was never that good. He went to a team with an oline, weapons, defense and great running game and thus looked decent but just like Mark Sanchez the moment he was expected to take that next step and be really good he fell on his ass. He would have been Darnold bad from day one if he as saddled with the utter schlock talent and coaching Darnold had to deal with. Sanchez fell on Brandon Moore’s ass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The panther situation is a mess and only a housecleaning is going to do it. They guy took a lot of heat in ny and alot was deserved but I remember before the draft gettleman being asked about the top 3 qb’s in the draft and him stating he did not like any of them. turns out he was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: Nothing happened, he was never that good. He went to a team with an oline, weapons, defense and great running game and thus looked decent but just like Mark Sanchez the moment he was expected to take that next step and be really good he fell on his ass. He would have been Darnold bad from day one if he as saddled with the utter schlock talent and coaching Darnold had to deal with. We make it like Mayfield and Sanchez was a bad thing. For a rookie QB contract, a team got a QB motivated for a second contract who helped their team compete. Sanchex took the Jets to 2 AFCCGs! It was not his fault that Tannenbaum gave him too good of a contract too early. The Browns knew that Mayfield was not the answer. They should not have taken year 5. I will be very surprised if the Jets extend Wilson/take the 5th year option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Please compare Darnolds first 4 games with panther vs Bakers, it’s the only fair comparison of the two players available. Sorry your boy sucks and is a bust Hmmmmmm seems like someone has been on the Panther Forum Boards!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Being an a$$hole can creep into other parts of life, like your job. See Johnny Manziel for reference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Obviously, now that Darnold failed in Carolina and Baker is in the process of failing, it must be that Carolina's weaponz suck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, jgb said: Obviously, now that Darnold failed in Carolina and Baker is in the process of failing, it must be that Carolina's weaponz suck. Reminds me of when we had Sanchez. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Jet9 said: Reminds me of when we had Sanchez. Sanchez has the cushiest rookie QB landing spot maybe in history. Top D, top rushing game... he just stinks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I wanted Baker drafted by us because I didn't think Darnold was an option and didn't like Rosen but this here speaks for itself.. Ummm and this was taken from a Panther Forum board which I visit... Few Panther fans are saying that Baker is better than Sam and that is scary with how poorly Darnold played last year despite the bad OL!!! This tells all you need to know about Baker Mayfield... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, slats said: In his first four games as a Panther, Darnold was 99/146 (67.8%) for 1189 yards and 5 TDs and 3 ints for a traditional passer rating of 95.4. Darnold had three 300+ yard games at that point, Mayfield has had three sub-200 yard games at the same marker. Glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, jgb said: Obviously, now that Darnold failed in Carolina and Baker is in the process of failing, it must be that Carolina's weaponz suck. yeah that McCaffery guy really sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 11 hours ago, Augustiniak said: Wentz too. In Wentz’s case it was the big injury during his big year he was never quite the same after getting hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said: Wentz seems like the most frustrating QB. Always felt he was never the same after getting hurt, but I agree, very frustrating player at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, Dcat said: yeah that McCaffery guy really sucks Then I blame the OL, or the water, could also be the wind patterns from nearby Lake Norman, which is home to a nuclear power plant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: I wanted Baker drafted by us because I didn't think Darnold was an option and didn't like Rosen but this here speaks for itself.. Ummm and this was taken from a Panther Forum board which I visit... Few Panther fans are saying that Baker is better than Sam and that is scary with how poorly Darnold played last year despite the bad OL!!! This tells all you need to know about Baker Mayfield... Pretty sure Darnold was in the same spot on this chart last year. Rhule is awful. And look at Geno. Damn, good for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, slats said: Pretty sure Darnold was in the same spot on this chart last year. Rhule is awful. And look at Geno. Damn, good for him. I agree 100%!! I truly believe no one player can overcome institutional ineptitude. And no matter what anyone thinks we clearly dodged a bullet in NOT HIRING MATT RHULE!! Rhule is as you said…….Awful!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 17 hours ago, varjet said: Zach Wilson currently is far behind where Baker was in his year 2. Baker had some great games, made the playoffs and provided the Browns fans with good entertainment. The Browns exercised his 5th year option and then traded him to the Panthers for partial/low recovery on this guaranteed salary and some draft picks. Let's see what the Jets do with Zach's 5th year option at the end of his year 3. I think Zach will provide the Jets fans with some entertaining football, but I am not seeing them exercise the option. FT Wilson if he is good after year 4. Ok, here is a change for me Zach dating to last seasons last 3 games is playing excellent football and making smart decisions. Why would you not pick up his option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Green Ghost said: You excel at making dumb statements, but this one is going to be tough to beat. Personally I never liked Baker and would never had traded Darnold for him when Darnold was on the Jets. Never understood all the hype around him. The Browns actually are a decision to win, they needed him to throw less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Dcat said: yeah that McCaffery guy really sucks Darnold was actually looking pretty good last year until McCaffery got hurt. I haven’t seen them this year, so I don’t know what Mayfield’s excuse is. Like I said, part of it has to be Rhule’s offense not translating to the pros. Ironically, the way Mayfield has fallen on his face there may give Darnold another shot. Between Gase and Rhule? Doesn’t get too much worse. I can almost guarantee there’s a coach out there who can’t wait to fix Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Trotter said: The panther situation is a mess and only a housecleaning is going to do it. They guy took a lot of heat in ny and alot was deserved but I remember before the draft gettleman being asked about the top 3 qb’s in the draft and him stating he did not like any of them. turns out he was right. I don't think Allen was rated behind Rosen. Just on arm talent and athleticism he had to be rated higher. I liked Allen a lot better than Rosen even with the accuracy knock on him but figured the Jets had Rosen rated higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 14 hours ago, varjet said: We make it like Mayfield and Sanchez was a bad thing. For a rookie QB contract, a team got a QB motivated for a second contract who helped their team compete. Sanchex took the Jets to 2 AFCCGs! It was not his fault that Tannenbaum gave him too good of a contract too early. The Browns knew that Mayfield was not the answer. They should not have taken year 5. I will be very surprised if the Jets extend Wilson/take the 5th year option. This is really hilarious. Only Jets fans talk like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Dcat said: yeah that McCaffery guy really sucks Wasn't McCaffery out for like 14 games last season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: I don't think Allen was rated behind Rosen. Just on arm talent and athleticism he had to be rated higher. I liked Allen a lot better than Rosen even with the accuracy knock on him but figured the Jets had Rosen rated higher From what I remember - most of the so called experts had it Darnold, rosen and Baker with Allen 4th. I agree with you that had the gints taken darnold, the jets were taking rosen. Obviously Allen has proven them all wrong, however, being fair, I did not want the Jets to take him because of the accuracy issues. Guess you can fix that although it does not happen often 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nycdan Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Looks like Kyler hasn't been putting in his 4 hours of homework time. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Trotter said: From what I remember - most of the so called experts had it Darnold, rosen and Baker with Allen 4th. I agree with you that had the gints taken darnold, the jets were taking rosen. Obviously Allen has proven them all wrong, however, being fair, I did not want the Jets to take him because of the accuracy issues. Guess you can fix that although it does not happen often Iirc, it was Darnold and Rosen early in the process, but then as the spring wore on Rosen started dropping and Mayfield rose. I don’t recall Allen getting much, if any, love. Still, Mayfield going number 1 was a draft day shock. Darnold was penciled in that slot by almost everyone for over a year up until that morning when the rumor broke that Dorsey would take Baker. Fwiw, I think Mac had a hand in that. I believe that Dorsey wanted to take Barkley #1 and Mayfield at #4, but Mac pretty much saying that Mayfield would not get past #3 threw a wrench in those works. Giants maybe/probably take Darnold if Barkley is off the board there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 IMHO, Baker needs to be benched when Sam Darnold is ready to go. AM I RIGHT @jgb? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The league is littered with players that had good/promising rookie seasons and then never grow or get better, and arguably get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: IMHO, Baker needs to be benched when Sam Darnold is ready to go. AM I RIGHT @jgb? Lol Can’t believe I’m saying this but not sure it matters. Remember the story about King Midas? Matt Rhule is his lesser-known cousin Prince Pyrite. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Darnold went to Carolina....and got worse. Mayfield went to Carolina....and got worse. There might be an argument to look at Carolina itself. The organization has been feckless at QB since Newton left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Trotter said: From what I remember - most of the so called experts had it Darnold, rosen and Baker with Allen 4th. I agree with you that had the gints taken darnold, the jets were taking rosen. Obviously Allen has proven them all wrong, however, being fair, I did not want the Jets to take him because of the accuracy issues. Guess you can fix that although it does not happen often Allen is a rather spectacular outlier. QB's that are as inaccurate as him rarely have success at the NFL level. As in "almost never". And Jackson is still mostly a runner who can also play QB. Just plays QB much better than most thought he would. I very much wanted Mayfield. I liked his fire. And completion percentage! But others made arguments for Darnold and Rosen too, and all three have been busts basically. But really, for me, this class was just a consolation price for missing out in the Watson/Mahomes draft. Watson was my guy all the way. Embarassing tho that is now in hindsight, personality wise, he was exactly what I hoped he be as a QB. But yeah, recent best QB's (Mahomes, Allen) I wasn't interested in either. Clear unambiguous misses on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Where QB prospects go is more important than talent and ability initially they need to be developed correctly before doubt and bad habits become ingrained. put Mahomes on the jets and start him right away and he’s a different QB put Darnold on the chiefs and let him sit a year and he’s different 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:52 PM, varjet said: Zach Wilson currently is far behind where Baker was in his year 2. Baker had some great games, made the playoffs and provided the Browns fans with good entertainment. The Browns exercised his 5th year option and then traded him to the Panthers for partial/low recovery on this guaranteed salary and some draft picks. Let's see what the Jets do with Zach's 5th year option at the end of his year 3. I think Zach will provide the Jets fans with some entertaining football, but I am not seeing them exercise the option. FT Wilson if he is good after year 4. What in the world does this thread have to do with Wilson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Grabbing your balls angrily at an opponent only takes you so far in the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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