Popular Post PorP Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 Ranked after week 4, we are 10th!!! And we're ranked 5th in Int's It feels strange to be doing decent for a change. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Ranked 25th in dvoa 3 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 3.7 ypc vs. the run is good for the 6th in the NFL too. Cant put my finger on it but it must have been that charmin camp Saleh ran this offseason. 5 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Ranked 25th in dvoa Did you hear that playoffs will be determined by point differential? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Did you hear that playoffs will be determined by point differential? The only time this defense has looked good is when we played the Steelers who started Mitch Trubiski and then put Pickett into his first NFL game. I don't know what you're getting at with point differential but this is what dvoa is https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Ranked 25th in dvoa Isn't that up 7 slots from last week? 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The only time this defense has looked good is when we played the Steelers who started Mitch Trubiski and then put Pickett into his first NFL game. I don't know what you're getting at with point differential but this is what dvoa is https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods I think his joke was little bit over your head. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I think his joke was little bit over your head. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, JiFapono said: 3.7 ypc vs. the run is good for the 6th in the NFL too. Cant put my finger on it but it must have been that charmin camp Saleh ran this offseason. Yup Saleh has made it and the defense and has been lights out to begin the season, shame people were ever critical of Saleh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Isn't that up 7 slots from last week? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PorP Posted October 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The only time this defense has looked good is when we played the Steelers who started Mitch Trubiski and then put Pickett into his first NFL game. I don't know what you're getting at with point differential but this is what dvoa is https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods Start wise that's false. Best defensive game of the year so far was game 1. Just in the run piece the Jets kept the rush and lamar to 60-sum yards. The Ravens as of week 4 are averaging over 140ypg on the ground for context. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The only time this defense has looked good is when we played the Steelers who started Mitch Trubiski and then put Pickett into his first NFL game. I don't know what you're getting at with point differential but this is what dvoa is https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods I'm hearing the playoff selection committee is going DVOA this year. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I’ll take it, but they’ve played a few bottom QBs. Another one this week. They just need to keep getting better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Yup Saleh has made it and the defense and has been lights out to begin the season, shame people were ever critical of Saleh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, PorP said: Start wise that's false. Best defensive game of the year so far was game 1. Just in the run piece the Jets kept the rush and lamar to 60-sum yards. The Ravens as of week 4 are averaging over 140ypg on the ground for context. The Jets looked good for the first half then the Ravens adjusted and did whatever they wanted. I don't believe the Jets are a top 10 defense right now. I hope they become one. I would be lying if I said I wasn't having nightmares of Teddy Bridgewater looking like Dan Marino Sunday. I mean, they played by far their best game of the year on Sunday and gave up 24 to an offense led by Trubisky and first NFL game Pickett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 JD/Saleh have done a few things better/right here. Even when you take out the Steelers they were not the worst defense in the NFL. Reed, Sauce, Alexander, JJ2 have been big helps, as has QW playing for a contract. I would set QW up for the Franchise Tag and then let him hit the market. But I think at a minimum we have to see where we are in 6-8 weeks, if not the end of the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, slats said: I’ll take it, but they’ve played a few bottom QBs. Another one this week. They just need to keep getting better. Meh, Lamar and Burrow are pretty good. I think it's probably pretty normal to face a few stinkers mixed w/ some of the elite. Just look at the state of QB'ing in the NFL. It's a weird year, lots of really bad QB's are starting. Geno Smith is the most efficient QB in the NFL 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Yes Glass half full my friend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: The only time this defense has looked good is when we played the Steelers who started Mitch Trubiski and then put Pickett into his first NFL game. I don't know what you're getting at with point differential but this is what dvoa is https://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/methods You should start a thread titled “we’re the 25th worst in DVOA” You and @Jetsfan80 could have a blast going back and forth with overall D vs DVOA. ? Seriously, one day at a time, one improvement at a time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Meh, Lamar and Burrow are pretty good. I think it's probably pretty normal to face a few stinkers mixed w/ some of the elite. Just look at the state of QB'ing in the NFL. It's a weird year, lots of really bad QB's are starting. Geno Smith is the most efficient QB in the NFL Go Geno! Rodgers and Brady are both playing like mere mortals so far. Also, the farther along the Brady/Gisele breakup go’s the longer Brady will be keeping his hands under center. First time in a long time I’m excited to see another team WR line up against one or not both of our corners. So far Sauce is more spice than slouch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The Jets looked good for the first half then the Ravens adjusted and did whatever they wanted. I don't believe the Jets are a top 10 defense right now. I hope they become one. I would be lying if I said I wasn't having nightmares of Teddy Bridgewater looking like Dan Marino Sunday. I mean, they played by far their best game of the year on Sunday and gave up 24 to an offense led by Trubisky and first NFL game Pickett. I thought 20 points. 7 points on a 4 yard drive and 6 points on a 59 and 51 yd field goals. Only 1 legit td drive given up. That’s pretty good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Sunday and gave up 24 to an offense led by Trubisky and first NFL game Pickett. The Packers gave up 24 pts to the combo of Hoyer and Zappe, at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Need a better pass rush and consistent safety play. QBs have had high completion % because we are not getting enough pressure. Sole reason Cincinnati trampled us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Ulbrich is a stud! Now that he has the players, its starting to come together. Ulbrich is one of the brightest, young defensive minds in the game. We are lucky to have him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, JiFapono said: The Packers gave up 24 pts to the combo of Hoyer and Zappe, at home. and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, oatmeal said: Yup Saleh has made it and the defense and has been lights out to begin the season, shame people were ever critical of Saleh. Shame people are watching a team that has been playing better than it has in years, has had an influx of good young talent added this season and all some can do is search for things like DVOA to dismiss things that are a hell of a lot more important. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Go Geno! Rodgers and Brady are both playing like mere mortals so far. Also, the farther along the Brady/Gisele breakup go’s the longer Brady will be keeping his hands under center. First time in a long time I’m excited to see another team WR line up against one or not both of our corners. So far Sauce is more spice than slouch. Yeah, the state of QB'ing is crazy right now. The studs are like, freaky studs the league hasnt seen before and then half the league is starting a turd, a stop gap or a back up. Wild. Very excited to see this match up but I have a feel we see a lot of the cover 3 this week w/ less man, so I'm not sure how much we'll get to see of the dope match up potentials but we'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, docdhc said: I thought 20 points. 7 points on a 4 yard drive and 6 points on a 59 and 51 yd field goals. Only 1 legit td drive given up. That’s pretty good. You're right I messed up and took the Jets score. They played good on Sunday. It was their best performance by far. But - it was the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: and? The Commanders gave up 25 to Cooper Rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, PorP said: Ranked after week 4, we are 10th!!! And we're ranked 5th in Int's It feels strange to be doing decent for a change. Ranked 18th in point allowed/8th in yards allowed. Ranked 25th in points scored/10th in yards gained. So technically, we're both a top 10 Offense and top 10 Defense, at least in Yards gained/allowed, as of this moment. That, that is pretty cool. Be good if they work on the scoring points/stopping other teams from scoring points aspect too, but sitting at 2-2, I'll take it. Definitely better than 2021's final ranks. So lets hope they can keep it up! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, JiFapono said: The Commanders gave up 25 to Cooper Rush. no one is on here calling those teams top 10 defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, PorP said: Ranked after week 4, we are 10th!!! And we're ranked 5th in Int's It feels strange to be doing decent for a change. Wow the NFL has really fallen off the cliffs. Geronimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, JiFapono said: I'm hearing the playoff selection committee is going DVOA this year. I’m trying to get how DVOA is so important in ranking a D. Because if we scored more points on offense our D would somehow be better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted October 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, JiFapono said: Meh, Lamar and Burrow are pretty good. I think it's probably pretty normal to face a few stinkers mixed w/ some of the elite. Just look at the state of QB'ing in the NFL. It's a weird year, lots of really bad QB's are starting. Geno Smith is the most efficient QB in the NFL I get it, believe me. Like I said, I’ll take it. It’s a mixed bag and the QBs you mention are the ones the team lost to, lol. But I’ll take all the good fortune the football gods would like to bestow upon this generally godforsaken franchise. Bring on Bridgewater! I was encouraged by the secondary play this week. They completely overhauled that group, and they’ve all been on the field a lot so far this year. It feels like they really might be solving the communication issues they’ve been having. They need to tweak that DL rotation, too -getting the best players in the best position- but I have some confidence that that will come. Saleh seemed to recognize that Huff might need more than seven snaps a game this week. That’s a start. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: no one is on here calling those teams top 10 defenses. Because theyre not. But the Jetsys are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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