Rhule Fired

[More Cowbell]

3 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

So weird. That's all he was touted for. Changing the culture. 

I'd say bringing in the two worst QB's back to back is a culture  changer after you had Cam Newton. 

[slats]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He had McCaffrey against New England in Week 9.  Result:  16-33, 172 yards, 0 TDs, 3 INTs.  Pats 24, Panthers 6.

So a passer rating that’s 10 points higher than Baker Mayfield so far for the season? Cool. 
 
Honestly, I don’t care. I just think it’s funny that @Green Ghost continues to carry water for Mayfield. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, slats said:

So a passer rating that’s 10 points higher than Baker Mayfield so far for the season? Cool. 
 
Honestly, I don’t care. I just think it’s funny that @Green Ghost continues to carry water for Mayfield. 

Mayfield definitely sucks (and to a shocking degree this year) I just agree with GG that he's still better than Darnold.  

[slimjasi]

 

 

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Mayfield definitely sucks (and to a shocking degree this year) I just agree with GG that he's still better than Darnold.  

Agreed 

Darnold has never played as well as Baker did in year 1 or at times in year 2 

Baker has regressed hard tho. Still don’t quite understand what happened to him. 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

2 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

No, I’ve said a few times Baker has been really bad this season. Here’s the thing though… on his worst day he’s better than Darnold.

I'm not so sure.   Mayfield is an offense killer

DJ Moore with  Cam Newton, Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, PJ Walker:

 

2019 - 87/1175/13.5/4

2020 - 66/1193/18.1/4

2021- 93/1157/12.4/4

DJ Moore in 2022 with Mayfield:

17/197/11.6/1 or on pace for 54/630/11.6/3

Want to do CMC next?  Or OBJ in Cleveland?  I'm not an OBJ fan, but in retrospect, maybe he and his father were right about Mayfield.  He turns elite receivers into garbage.  He had one of the best OLs in the NFL in Cleveland and a top flight running game and couldn't move the ball through the air.  

[GKnight83]

Rutgers should be in the market. Schiano is a fraud.

They lay football at Rutgers?

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

2 hours ago, fullblast said:

All fun and games until the Pats trade for DJ Moore.

He just signed an extension this offseason. The cap hit for a trade would be huge. I don't think he's going anywhere.

[rex-n-effect]

He earned that firing but his alleged comment is not entirely wrong either. The roster is nothing to be excited about. I have to imagine the GM feels his seat getting hot, especially with his terrible QB decisions. 

I suspect the owner is preparing to clean house to bring in Payton, too. 

[southparkcpa]

Many smart people here fear that Tepper will move the team.  I don't see it.  He brought in soccer etc  BUT maybe he moves it all?

Charlotte is turning it's back on Tepper, that's for sure.

[jgb]

11 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

He earned that firing but his alleged comment is not entirely wrong either. The roster is nothing to be excited about. I have to imagine the GM feels his seat getting hot, especially with his terrible QB decisions. 

I suspect the owner is preparing to clean house to bring in Payton, too. 

He's basically doing what I suggested a few weeks ago -- whoever wants a shot at Peyton needs to clear the decks early and overwhelm him with an offer that takes him off the market before the coaching carousel starts. Might work too. Cowboys -- most likely landing spot -- probably not moving on and if the stress of NO got to him, Charlotte is about as low-key as you can get and be an NFL HC.

[Green Ghost]

31 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

I'm not so sure.   Mayfield is an offense killer

DJ Moore with  Cam Newton, Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, PJ Walker:

 

2019 - 87/1175/13.5/4

2020 - 66/1193/18.1/4

2021- 93/1157/12.4/4

DJ Moore in 2022 with Mayfield:

17/197/11.6/1 or on pace for 54/630/11.6/3

Want to do CMC next?  Or OBJ in Cleveland?  I'm not an OBJ fan, but in retrospect, maybe he and his father were right about Mayfield.  He turns elite receivers into garbage.  He had one of the best OLs in the NFL in Cleveland and a top flight running game and couldn't move the ball through the air.  

Go back and look at Mayfield’s career #’s Darnold’s. If you think Sam is a better QB, I’m not going to be able to convince you otherwise.

I have no problem admitting Baker has been really bad this year, but gtfoh with comparing him to Darnold.

That’s slander. ?

[SuicidalSince98]

39 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Go back and look at Mayfield’s career #’s Darnold’s. If you think Sam is a better QB, I’m not going to be able to convince you otherwise.

I have no problem admitting Baker has been really bad this year, but gtfoh with comparing him to Darnold.

That’s slander. ?

Literally no one cares 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

Go back and look at Mayfield’s career #’s Darnold’s. If you think Sam is a better QB, I’m not going to be able to convince you otherwise.

I have no problem admitting Baker has been really bad this year, but gtfoh with comparing him to Darnold.

That’s slander. ?

I'm not comparing Mayfield to Darnold. I am saying Mayfield is epically bad this season and that he has been bad for multiple seasons.  Mayfield is playing worse this season than every single starting QB in the NFL and worse than all prior Carolina QBs over the past three seasons.  I am saying that Mayfield's play this season was a major reason Rhule is unemployed today.  People thought he would improve the offense, but he has buried it.  I am NOT defending Darnold. I wanted Darnold off the roster after 2020 and wanted a QB drafted.  Darnold's best hope right now is to stick around as a back up for a few years.  He is terrible.  Mayfield is just dreadful this season.  If you can/want to defend Mayfield, go ahead and give it a shot.  Any QB would be an improvement in Carolina right now over Mayfield. Any QB.  

[jeremy2020]

2 hours ago, slats said:

So a passer rating that’s 10 points higher than Baker Mayfield so far for the season? Cool. 
 
Honestly, I don’t care. I just think it’s funny that @Green Ghost continues to carry water for Mayfield. 

@Green Ghost is skip bayless confirmed. Only two people I've seen still holding onto the baker mayfield dream. 

 

 

The list of college HCs that become first time NFL HCs (in the last 20 years or so) that have had success it pretty much Harbaugh. 

[slimjasi]

5 hours ago, Trotter said:

This is a Sean Payton destination.

owner has piss away money.

will prob give full authority over football ops to get him

gonna have top 1-3 pick next year

Especially if McCarthy keeps winning in Dallas, making that job unavailable 

[Green Ghost]

2 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Literally no one cares 

Apparently you do.

[SuicidalSince98]

14 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Apparently you do.

No, I am just annoyed by you 

[Larz]

A lot of college coaches fail in the first NFL gig. 
 

He should buy a house in Fiji and do twitter updates every day about how he is spending the money NOT to coach the team lol

[pointman]

Soooo any o linemen, safeties to replace Ashtyn, or perhaps a reunion with Robbie to play an outside burner role from time to time?

[Ecuadorian Jet]

5 hours ago, slimjasi said:

 

 

Agreed 

Darnold has never played as well as Baker did in year 1 or at times in year 2 

Baker has regressed hard tho. Still don’t quite understand what happened to him. 

Cleveland happened to him.

[Green Ghost]

2 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

No, I am just annoyed by you 

[Drums]

10 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

So weird. That's all he was touted for. Changing the culture. 

Yeah I feel for the family too with the tens of millions he made. 

[Jet2020]

10 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I thought he was going to be a good one. When was the last time a coach was fired after only 5 weeks or less?

 

So you sh*t the bed for 3 years and collect 7 years worth of paychecks? I’d want that job!

[Sperm Edwards]

8 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Mayfield definitely sucks (and to a shocking degree this year) I just agree with GG that he's still better than Darnold.  

Perhaps, but it's also like arguing whether you'd prefer to eat a doody with a fork or on a hot dog bun. 

[johnnysd]

8 hours ago, jgb said:

He's basically doing what I suggested a few weeks ago -- whoever wants a shot at Peyton needs to clear the decks early and overwhelm him with an offer that takes him off the market before the coaching carousel starts. Might work too. Cowboys -- most likely landing spot -- probably not moving on and if the stress of NO got to him, Charlotte is about as low-key as you can get and be an NFL HC.

NO owns Paytons right so the team that signs him will have to throw draft picks at NO. Carolina is nothing.  He is not going to a complete rebuild. He will want to go somewhere that has a QB or the draft capital and position to go get one. 

[Hex]

8 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

NO owns Paytons right so the team that signs him will have to throw draft picks at NO. Carolina is nothing.  He is not going to a complete rebuild. He will want to go somewhere that has a QB or the draft capital and position to go get one. 

Payton left the Saints because it was too stressful for him. He's not going to coach a dumpster fire team any time soon.

[Hal N of Provo]

11 hours ago, doitny said:

whats the point when Zach is going to throw it to him 2 times a game. im afraid that yesterday's game with the... run...run..run and make Zach throw it as little as possible will be the gameplan going forward. if that happens its such a waste of a talented WR group that we ever had.

Run run run run make ‘em stack the box then open a can a whoop azz

[Irish Jet]

18 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said:

 

"ENOUGH OF THESE DISGUSTING MINDLESS HUMAN TRASH GETTING COACHING JOBS

also thoughts and prayers to the rhule family"

[Dwight Englewood]

On 10/10/2022 at 3:00 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

Mayfield definitely sucks (and to a shocking degree this year) I just agree with GG that he's still better than Darnold.  

Maybe by a nanometer

[Dwight Englewood]

On 10/10/2022 at 11:51 PM, Hex said:

Payton left the Saints because it was too stressful for him. He's not going to coach a dumpster fire team any time soon.

So who should baker pick to be the next head coach that he will get fired in 1 year?

[Hex]

6 hours ago, Dwight Englewood said:

So who should baker pick to be the next head coach that he will get fired in 1 year?

A very special scumbag whose team is having a QB competition...

[SuicidalSince98]

On 10/11/2022 at 5:52 AM, Irish Jet said:

"ENOUGH OF THESE DISGUSTING MINDLESS HUMAN TRASH GETTING COACHING JOBS

also thoughts and prayers to the rhule family"

I hope they can get through this, tough times out there,  not sure 40m will hold them over. 

[New York Mick]

If ND keeps looking like sht they’ll be looking for a coach. 

[Dwight Englewood]

20 hours ago, Hex said:

A very special scumbag whose team is having a QB competition...

Belichick

[C Mart]

Matt Rhule files $5M complaint against Panthers, source confirms

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Former Carolina Panthers coach Matt Rhule has filed an arbitration suit against the team seeking about $5 million in offset severance compensation, according to a source with knowledge of the suit.

Rhule, now the head coach at Nebraska, is seeking money he believes the Panthers still owe him after he was fired Oct. 10, the source said. Rhule was hired as Nebraska coach in late November.

Rhule hired New York City employment attorney John Singer of Singer Deutsch LLP to file the complaint with the NFL, which likely will decide how the arbitration is handled. Jay Morakis of M Group Strategic Communications, which works with the legal team, declined to comment.

A Panthers spokesperson also declined to comment.

CBS Sports first reported on the lawsuit, which was filed last week.

Rhule was fired five weeks into the 2022 season with an 11-27 overall record in two-plus seasons after signing a seven-year, $62 million deal in January 2020. After the introduction of Frank Reich as the Panthers' new coach Tuesday, team owner David Tepper said he made a mistake in hiring a "CEO-type head coach'' in Rhule.

Rhule was owed roughly $34 million by the Panthers after his dismissal. He received a reported eight-year, $72 million deal with Nebraska that offset most of that.

The suit, according to the source, doesn't specifically mention the exact amount of money being disputed by the team. But the source said the approximate amount is $5 million based on the contract terms.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35570005/matt-rhule-sues-panthers-pay-firing-source-confirms