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11 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Yes please give up a 1st for a RB on the tail end of his career who is always hurt. I would beg Buffalo to run the ball with Allen back there. 

Counter argument: The Bills are a bit one dimensional on offense and super reliant on their star QB. A more productive running game would make them a more complete team.  A few of the folks on their boards are already pissed they didn’t draft Breece Hall. 

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I don't think Carolina makes out on this. I get that a rebuilding team wants extra picks for the upcoming draft, and cap room for the upcoming FA period, but...

  • Buffalo's 1st is going to be way down there (possibly the last pick in the round, and adding McCaffrey will only help make the pick worse).
  • Carolina will surely be drafting a QB in April, and a veteran receiving back like McCaffrey could/should be a rookie QB's best friend.

I wouldn't make McCaffrey or Moore untouchable - no one's untouchable during a tear-down - but having them will accelerate the team turnaround and rookie QB learning curve that much more. 

Just one opinion of a Jets fan with memories of a team trying to train up young QBs with questionable or worse weapons around them. Happy to help them now, after allowing us to effectively trade Darnold for Breece Hall and a bunch of extra cap room. Rephrase it Breece Hall + Duane Brown if it helps to attach a name to the pick and a bunch of the extra money. 

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25 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Fair Trade Propoal:

Carolina Trades RB Christian McCaffery to Buffalo

I'm exchange Buffalo also has to take Sam Darnold 

And Baker Mayfield. Sean McDermott won't last a year with both coach slayers on his team

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4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I don't think Carolina makes out on this. I get that a rebuilding team wants extra picks for the upcoming draft, and cap room for the upcoming FA period, but...

  • Buffalo's 1st is going to be way down there (possibly the last pick in the round, and adding McCaffrey will only help make the pick worse).
  • Carolina will surely be drafting a QB in April, and a veteran receiving back like McCaffrey could/should be a rookie QB's best friend.

I wouldn't make McCaffrey or Moore untouchable - no one's untouchable during a tear-down - but having them will accelerate the team turnaround and rookie QB learning curve that much more. 

Just one opinion of a Jets fan with memories of a team trying to train up young QBs with questionable or worse weapons around them. Happy to help them now, after allowing us to effectively trade Darnold for Breece Hall and a bunch of extra cap room. Rephrase it Breece Hall + Duane Brown if it helps to attach a name to the pick and a bunch of the extra money. 

If they get a 1st they can draft the best RB in the draft with the pick. 

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20 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

If they get a 1st they can draft the best RB in the draft with the pick. 

They can? Golly.

I was just insinuating I don't think it's automatic that a rookie RB - as a rookie - is as reliable both as a receiver and at picking up blitzes. Or even that a trade isn't going to send one of Buffalo's RBs back to Carolina, making it less likely they burn a 1st round pick on a RB. Few 1st year rebuilds invest such a high pick on a RB these days.

All this is predicated on the idea that it's Buffalo's low 1st rounder that's being offered, rather than their low 2nd rounder. McCaffrey's a pretty expensive RB, with an injury history that isn't insignificant. We're guessing a bit, but until a trade is made who says it's a 1st rounder being offered?

It's not like Buffalo's RBs aren't already doing well. They're not McCaffrey, but the trio is averaging nearly 5 ypc. 

Anyway we don't know what their offer is. 

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2 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Fair Trade Propoal:

Carolina Trades RB Christian McCaffery to Buffalo

I'm exchange Buffalo also has to take Sam Darnold 

“Surfboard” Sammy might ever go to miserable Minus 30 Below Buffalo.  Actually I think he’s just going to retire soon anyway.  You want to hand him a few mill to hold a clipboard he’ll do it.  But no place really cold.

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1 hour ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

“Surfboard” Sammy might ever go to miserable Minus 30 Below Buffalo.  Actually I think he’s just going to retire soon anyway.  You want to hand him a few mill to hold a clipboard he’ll do it.  But no place really cold.

I’d retire if I were him. Rhule gave him a heck of a pension!

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Also don’t forget McDermott came from Carolina and even though their FO changed he’s still got relationships in that building. Plus Buffalo has most to gain by getting CMC as it would pretty much make them a lock for super bowl so you can imagine that they would be the team willing to give up the most compensation. 
Plus the rams have no draft capital lol  

this looks like it’s going to get done. Bills about to be unstoppable 

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4 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

They can? Golly.

I was just insinuating I don't think it's automatic that a rookie RB - as a rookie - is as reliable both as a receiver and at picking up blitzes. Or even that a trade isn't going to send one of Buffalo's RBs back to Carolina, making it less likely they burn a 1st round pick on a RB. Few 1st year rebuilds invest such a high pick on a RB these days.

All this is predicated on the idea that it's Buffalo's low 1st rounder that's being offered, rather than their low 2nd rounder. McCaffrey's a pretty expensive RB, with an injury history that isn't insignificant. We're guessing a bit, but until a trade is made who says it's a 1st rounder being offered?

It's not like Buffalo's RBs aren't already doing well. They're not McCaffrey, but the trio is averaging nearly 5 ypc. 

Anyway we don't know what their offer is. 

I think the problem is McCaffery played 10 games in the previous two seasons before this one and I imagine his cap number limits what he can do in terms of building a unit around a QB from scratch. A lot of Panthers fans were saying it was a bad contract just a few months ago. 

I'd trade him, maybe not for the Bills pick but I'm sure there will be offers. As good a back as he is we haven't really seen a substantial improvement from the QB's that are playing with him - Mayfield has gotten significantly worse, I think there are other problems that are just far more pressing and any resources they can get would be worth looking in to. 

I think he has more value to a contender that he may put over the top then he does on a rebuilding team. 

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this might actually be good for the jets future. sure it would make the bills better short term. but it should cost some pretty high draft picks and cap space to do this. assuming he stays healthy (a big if) it will make them better for the next couple years. i think we are just still having ptsd from the patriots being a dynasty for like 15 ****in years. the bills won't be that.

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7 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Would love for the bills to trade future assets for this guy.  A win now panic move.

Joe Douglas will sit back, watch these clown organizations waste assets and the Jets will strike and take over this division in 2023 or 2024.

i don't know that we can call the bills a clown organization.  they've done pretty well since they hired mcdermott.  but i do agree trading for mcaffery is a bad move for what will be a one year or maybe one game rental.

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I want to hate the Bills, but they're in a Super Bowl window right now. Sure, they might be able to be good for a while with Allen, so they shouldn't trade the farm, but giving up something like a 1st rounder next draft, a 2nd rounder the draft after  - which is what the  Panther's should ask, since they are clearly rebuilding, then why not for the Bills? 

And while those picks will be low in each round and not specifically a haul for the Panthers, extra picks help with the rebuild. 

 

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10 minutes ago, varjet said:

Unfortunately borrowing from the future to win a Super Bowl is what teams like the Rams and Bills have to do.   

Not sure mccaffrey is the guy to get though, always hurt and i figured they could use a tougher runner for the cold esp. if they’re going to be hosting playoff games.

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9 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I don't think Carolina makes out on this.

I wouldn't make McCaffrey or Moore untouchable.

I would gather that this was leaked to get others involved.  Perhaps, the bills leaked it, but if he is tradeable now it was probably leaked by Carolina.

I don't really know who would be a better option for them than the Bills.  I can't see a struggling team give up the draft capital.

It could help them improve their own draft pick by trading him, since he is their only real threat to win games by putting the team on his back.  Without him they have to be the odds on favorite for the #1 pick, thus getting their QB and adding draft capital.

Interesting nevertheless

 

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