extmenace Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I just dont see this front office giving up draft capital for expensive players. This front office, to me, seems like they'd rather have draft capital than trade it away. I am a fan of burns but I think this team will perfer to build through the draft and go after free agents vs trading for guys. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Mogglez said: Gotcha, my bad, I misunderstood. Not your fault, several posters challenged it - my initial post probably failed to land my actual point. No bigs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 17 hours ago, derp said: If the Jets can get Burns without giving up the future #1 I’m all for it. Great value, young ascending player, premium position. Without knowing how the season plays out I think you hang on to next year’s first and you’re okay missing on him if that’s the difference. They theoretically weren’t giving up a #1 for Hill last offseason so unless the build is that different one year later I’d guess that’s the simple approach Douglas takes. I imagine lots of teams will be in on him though. Burns is a stud. They will definitely get a 1st + for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 19 hours ago, oatmeal said: JJ is okay and still developing but he’s no burns plus it’s looking like we won’t have a high 1st this year so who in the middle or near the end of the draft will be the caliber of player like burns? AND HES ONLY 24 this is a no brainer imo "With the 32nd pick of the draft...the NYJ select...?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Why would the panthers want the 22nd pick ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I would love to add a guy like Burns, but the problem with trading for Burns is that we would need to give a up a 1, plus we have to pay him. As of now, we are projected to have $8M cap space next year. Obviously we can free up space, but we also have just 36 guys under contract for next year, so we will need to spend money to full out the roster. Burns would likely cost us a 1, plus at least $16M cap space. On the other hand, if we keep our 1, we can get a low priced talented player. And use $16M cap space, to sign 2 or 3 more players. I would rather see us continue to commit to building throught he draft. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton163v Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 This one is an easy call. I would definitely trade for Brian Burns. He is an elite edge, no doubt about it. Now the OP suggests that we should cough up next year's 1 to get him. No. That is a hard pass. We are not good enough to sacrifice next year's needs to win this year. I wish we were. Now if we were like the Bills before the Diggs trade, coming off a division crown and needing a #1 wideout - then - like the Biills - I would cough up the #1. I think Burns is worth a #1. Not a top 10 pick, but a #1. I just wish we were good enough. I honestly believe we must draft another tackle early next season. I do not consider playing Brown, resigning Fant and a return to health for Becton to be a plan for next season at LT. That band aid is barely holding now. But I doubt Burns goes for a #1. When players contracts are up, they sell for less. I would definitely bid, but am hoping to have the best offer from around the NFL. I wold happily pay him though. Well worth every penny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 hours ago, BCJet said: Bozeman would be a great depth piece but I think JD really likes Feeney, but if we are talking about a 6th round pick or something like that, then I would feel good with Bozeman. We do have a really good problem in that in 2 weeks we will have to find spots to bring back both fant and mitchell. We can obviously waive mcdermott for one spot and Ogubehi for the other. After that, would we waive feeney for bozeman? I think he likes Feeney because of experience: familiarity with the team/scheme plus the idea that his backup was a day-2 pick who was then a 3+ year starter & is still only 28. I think there’s further a very good chance he liked Feeney as a prospect coming out of school. I’m also not aware of him ever having missed time (let alone multiple games) to injury, or even so much as being listed as doubtful even once in his career; was once listed as questionable for 1 week & still suited up & played. So much for the cliché that the best ability is availability. The problem is despite checking off those boxes, he’s just not too good. Clearly not good enough to pencil in as starter heading into the draft, where the team may be realistically faced with the idea of him starting 17 games at C if they don’t land the prospect they wanted (or if the one they landed just isn’t any better, at least as a rookie). McDermott is just awful. I didn’t understand bringing him back this year; even to bring in as competition for Edoga for a roster spot was hard to accept (made still harder to accept after neither made the final roster cutdowns). On the one hand they should’ve drafted another lineman; on the other hand I’d have to be one miserable brat to find fault with the Jets’ 2022 draft class with the way they’ve started out. Even at my worst I’m not that surly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Don't we already have the most expensive DL in football? I can't see a scenario where they pay Quinnen and Burns. We'd have to choose one. Besides I don't think we could extend him now so you'd be looking at a franchise tag We have a lot of young foundational players now but reality is we will still need to overhaul a significant portion of our roster so we need more draft capital not less. Seems a year early for this type of move. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: "With the 32nd pick of the draft...the NYJ select...?" Is this before or after we get the Pats first pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanShawn Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 20 hours ago, T0mShane said: Rumors afoot that the Panthers are going into fire sale mode and don’t want to pay Burns at the end of the year (Fitterer had that weird comment earlier this offseason about not paying Burns, too). IMO, Burns isn’t Von Miller, but he’s an extremely athletic pass rusher who could be the big finishing piece to unlock this defense. I would absolutely consider giving up a 2023 one and change for this dude. i think if they get em 5050 chance of getting burnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenReaper Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Hex said: Is this before or after we get the Pats first pick It's after Jets get their 2023 and 2024 1st rounders. You know...JD is due for another one of his typical trade scenarios...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Dwight Englewood said: Burns is a stud. They will definitely get a 1st + for him I think they probably will and if they do I’m okay with the Jets missing, that’s what I was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 They could have just kept Frankie Luvu 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, C Mart said: This does make much more sense; Burns + Horn + Brown should be the core of that D and attractive pieces to recruit the next HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Englewood Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 17 hours ago, johnnysd said: Don't we already have the most expensive DL in football? I can't see a scenario where they pay Quinnen and Burns. We'd have to choose one. Besides I don't think we could extend him now so you'd be looking at a franchise tag We have a lot of young foundational players now but reality is we will still need to overhaul a significant portion of our roster so we need more draft capital not less. Seems a year early for this type of move. If you are going to spend money DL is where you spend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Do Safety next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 They not trading Burns at all Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 8:40 PM, C Mart said: These are the only type of coach Carolina will be attracting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Complete rebuild in Carolina but keeping key pieces. It’s smart. They will be in position to Draft a Top 3 QB most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I don’t know who started this “rumor”, but it’s typical click bait by some reporter who sits there thinking about scenarios and throwing out made up bs without any corroboration, in this case a Panthers “firesale” which then goes viral and gets picked up on forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 They turned down 2 1s for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Burns just sacked Brady and Tommy was slow to get up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Micah parsons is so good and so smart. lol.....wrong....thread...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Burns having quite a day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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