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3 minutes ago, KRL said:

Amazing!!!  For the first time since 2019 the Jets have won three games
in a row as they physically manhandled GB 27-10.  In back to back weeks
the Jets have stomped out an opponent and made the final 8 minutes of
the 4th quarter irrelevant:


Special Teams

- Even though he missed a 54 yarder Greg Zuerlein continued his solid
season as he went 2/3 of FG's and 3/3 on XP's.  His leg strength on
KO's have surprised me.

- Excellent game by Braden Mann (45 yd avg) particularly in the first
half when he "flipped" field position multiple times when the offense
was struggling.

- Braxton Berrios was productive as usual with a 29 yd avg on KO's and
an 11 yd avg on punts.

- The punt protection had one mishap as Jamien Sherwood didn't seal off
the middle of the line and allowed a punt block.  But other than that
Brant Boyer's units were off the charts as Quinnen Williams blocked a
FG and Michael Clemons blocked a punt that led to a "scoop & score" by
Will Parks.


Defense

- I can't remember a defensive effort as good as we saw today, it must
be back in the 2009 and 2010 seasons when Rex Ryan was HC.  Much improved
secondary play and relentless DLine pressure abused Aaron Rodgers all
day.  As he was sacked 4 times, knocked down 9 times and had 5 passes 
defended.

- Let's highlight the "beasts" from today's game:

  * Quinnen Williams is elevating his game into Aaron Donald territory. 
    He blocked a FG, had 5 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL's and 3 QB Hits (yawn).

  * Quincy Williams made a dramatic return from injury with 14 Tackles
    (many of them HUGE) and coverage all over the field.

  * CJ Mosley was an excellent "tag team partner" to Williams as he had
    11 Tackles (many of them HUGE) and one pass defensed.

  * Ahmad Gardner's coverage skills are so advanced for a rookie it's
    ridiculous.  He has serious make up speed, change of direction,
    ability to close on routes and the ability to knock balls out of
    receivers hands.  If Gardner keeps on this path we will be bringing
    up Revis comparisons fairly soon.

  * DJ Reed may be short but his coverage skills and physicality make up
    for it.  In addition Michael Carter shouldn't be forgotten because he's
    raised his game in his second year.

  * The safety play of Jordan Whitehead and Lamarcus Joyner has elevated
    since the CIN debacle.  Now when double coverage is being called they're
    consistently in position.  Also, they are providing a physical presence
    when they are coming into "the box".


Offense

- The performance of the offense can be summed up in one word "sledgehammer".
The OLine and running game led the way with 33 rushes for 179 yards (5.4 avg).
Duane Brown needs special recognition as the 37 year old wasn't only physical
but fast.  As multiple times he got into space and blocked LB's and DB's 10+
yards downfield to break long runs.

- Breece Hall was the star with 115 yards on 20 rushes and a TD.  We may have 
entered with a committee approach in the RB rotation but Hall is going to 
change that.  His production will make him RB1 shortly with Michael Carter as
the "change of pace" RB.

- Tremendous play call by Mike LaFleur on Hall's TD run.  Wonderful use of
motion and misdirection led to a gaping hole in GB defense.

- Huge two play sequence by Corey Davis in the third quarter that got the
offense going.  A 10 yard slant that got a first down then a 40 yard bomb
that led to a TD by Berrios on a Jet sweep.  


QB

- Zach Wilson was a game manager again as he generated very little in the
passing game going 10/18 for 110 yards.  He had one "sexy" sequence when
he connected with Davis on the 40 yarder mentioned earlier.  But let's 
not overlook Wilson's most important stat, he's 3-0 since he's come back
from injury.  And the offense is averaging 30 points a game, hard to
complain about that.  

Just as Zach was getting hot, we didnt need him anymore.  These blowouts are not condusive to big passing numbers.  If anythng, we are startig to looking like Rex's afc championship teams.

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Great all around performance.  This roster is talented.  It's nice seeing guys like Rankins and Quincy really elevate their games from last year.

That being said, the 3-0 record these past 3 weeks should not be attributed to Wilson alone.  Sure the QB gets the blame/praise but he seriously needs to step up his game.  I honestly expected him to be farther along than he's shown so far this year.

There are just too many instances during games where he, and the O by extension, are completely dysfunctional.

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Seeing Duane brown just getting downfield like he is as a lead blocker is so impressive and now we know why he's a perennial pro bowler...apparently breece halls td run was supposed to be a pass back but he used his instincts to just run for the td...incredible maturity

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Nice writeup as usual. I would say that this D is better than Rex's D. Rex D would have big game and then slump. This is the second big game in a row. Rex D would hold, hold and give up a big 3rd down play - this team produced so many 3 and outs this week it isn't even funny. Take away the penalties and there would have been a couple more 3 and outs and likely the score would have been more lopsided.

The Rex run D would get blown out of games and often lose to both great QB and a rookie QB would have their best games against them. This team hasn't had that problem.

Let's hope that this D and this teams running game will take us as far as Rex did.

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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Just as Zach was getting hot, we didnt need him anymore.  These blowouts are not condusive to big passing numbers.  If anythng, we are startig to looking like Rex's afc championship teams.

This is correct.

Zach seems to be a guy that's better when he's warmed up in groove a bit.  I have little doubt had they needed him he would have stepped up - as he has in the other two wins in the 4ht quarter.

they do have to figure out how to get him comfortable early though, but I think that will come with time..

Being able to deliver when it matters is the hard part.

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1 hour ago, KRL said:

Amazing!!!  For the first time since 2019 the Jets have won three games
in a row as they physically manhandled GB 27-10.  In back to back weeks
the Jets have stomped out an opponent and made the final 8 minutes of
the 4th quarter irrelevant:


Special Teams

- Even though he missed a 54 yarder Greg Zuerlein continued his solid
season as he went 2/3 on FG's and 3/3 on XP's.  His leg strength on
KO's has surprised me.

- Excellent game by Braden Mann (45 yd avg) particularly in the first
half when he "flipped" field position multiple times when the offense
was struggling.

- Braxton Berrios was productive as usual with a 29 yd avg on KO's and
an 11 yd avg on punts.

- The punt protection had one mishap as Jamien Sherwood didn't seal off
the middle of the line and allowed a punt block.  But other than that
Brant Boyer's units were off the charts as Quinnen Williams blocked a
FG and Michael Clemons blocked a punt that led to a "scoop & score" by
Will Parks.


Defense

- I can't remember a defensive effort as good as we saw today, it must
be back in the 2009 and 2010 seasons when Rex Ryan was HC.  Much improved
secondary play and relentless DLine pressure abused Aaron Rodgers all
day.  As he was sacked 4 times, knocked down 9 times and had 5 passes 
defensed.

- Let's highlight the "beasts" from today's game:

  * Quinnen Williams is elevating his game into Aaron Donald territory. 
    He blocked a FG, had 5 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL's and 3 QB Hits (yawn).

  * Quincy Williams made a dramatic return from injury with 14 Tackles
    (many of them HUGE) and coverage all over the field.

  * CJ Mosley was an excellent "tag team partner" to Williams as he had
    11 Tackles (many of them HUGE) and one pass defensed.

  * Ahmad Gardner's coverage skills are so advanced for a rookie it's
    ridiculous.  He has serious make up speed, change of direction,
    ability to close on routes and the ability to knock balls out of
    receivers hands.  If Gardner keeps on this path we will be bringing
    up Revis comparisons fairly soon.

  * DJ Reed may be short but his coverage skills and physicality make up
    for it.  In addition Michael Carter shouldn't be forgotten because he's
    raised his game in his second year.

  * The safety play of Jordan Whitehead and Lamarcus Joyner has elevated
    since the CIN debacle.  Now when double coverage is being called they're
    consistently in position.  Also, they are providing a physical presence
    when they are coming into "the box".


Offense

- The performance of the offense can be summed up in one word "sledgehammer".
The OLine and running game led the way with 33 rushes for 179 yards (5.4 avg).
Duane Brown needs special recognition as the 37 year old wasn't only physical
but fast.  As multiple times he got into space and blocked LB's and DB's 10+
yards downfield to break long runs.

- Breece Hall was the star with 115 yards on 20 rushes and a TD.  We may have 
entered with a committee approach in the RB rotation but Hall is going to 
change that.  His production will make him RB1 shortly with Michael Carter as
the "change of pace" RB.

- Tremendous play call by Mike LaFleur on Hall's TD run.  Wonderful use of
motion and misdirection led to a gaping hole in GB defense.

- Huge two play sequence by Corey Davis in the third quarter that got the
offense going.  A 10 yard slant that got a first down then a 40 yard bomb
that led to a TD by Berrios on a Jet sweep.  


QB

- Zach Wilson was a game manager again as he generated very little in the
passing game going 10/18 for 110 yards.  He had one "sexy" sequence when
he connected with Davis on the 40 yarder mentioned earlier.  But let's 
not overlook Wilson's most important stat, he's 3-0 since he's come back
from injury.  And the offense is averaging 30 points a game, hard to
complain about that.  

While watching the first half, it was clear that LaFleur and the Jets were playing a "chess match"--strategically conservative--put ZW in positions where he CAN'T MAKE BONEHEADED plays early and dig us a 21-0 hole early.  I loved it. LOVED IT. One hell of a game plan making sure that the Packers had to beat us and ZW could not beat us.  It was palpable that they were keeping him from shooting himself in the foot.

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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Just as Zach was getting hot, we didnt need him anymore.  These blowouts are not condusive to big passing numbers.  If anythng, we are startig to looking like Rex's afc championship teams.

 

28 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

This is correct.

Zach seems to be a guy that's better when he's warmed up in groove a bit.  I have little doubt had they needed him he would have stepped up - as he has in the other two wins in the 4ht quarter.

they do have to figure out how to get him comfortable early though, but I think that will come with time..

Being able to deliver when it matters is the hard part.

You two are something.

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Jets dominated despite minimal contributions from Zach.  As a Jets fan - I am super excited about the win.  The bonus is I know a bunch of Packers fans and can talk trash all week.

Having said that, conventional wisdom is that this is an important year to learn what we have in Zach - as this team is a QB away from sustained success.

Looking at the big picture, we still need to see more consistency from the Jets passing game, especially given the pass catching weapons and what appears to be a solid running game.

I think we can walk and chew gum.  Thoroughly enjoy the win, and discuss the improvement needed from Zach.

 

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1 hour ago, Dupe said:

Great to see your post KRL.  We can savor this win “together”

Agreed. I haven’t seen any from you previously. Did I miss them or is this the first?

Keep it up please. 

2 hours ago, KRL said:

Amazing!!!  For the first time since 2019 the Jets have won three games
in a row as they physically manhandled GB 27-10.  In back to back weeks
the Jets have stomped out an opponent and made the final 8 minutes of
the 4th quarter irrelevant:


Special Teams

- Even though he missed a 54 yarder Greg Zuerlein continued his solid
season as he went 2/3 on FG's and 3/3 on XP's.  His leg strength on
KO's has surprised me.

- Excellent game by Braden Mann (45 yd avg) particularly in the first
half when he "flipped" field position multiple times when the offense
was struggling.

- Braxton Berrios was productive as usual with a 29 yd avg on KO's and
an 11 yd avg on punts.

- The punt protection had one mishap as Jamien Sherwood didn't seal off
the middle of the line and allowed a punt block.  But other than that
Brant Boyer's units were off the charts as Quinnen Williams blocked a
FG and Michael Clemons blocked a punt that led to a "scoop & score" by
Will Parks.


Defense

- I can't remember a defensive effort as good as we saw today, it must
be back in the 2009 and 2010 seasons when Rex Ryan was HC.  Much improved
secondary play and relentless DLine pressure abused Aaron Rodgers all
day.  As he was sacked 4 times, knocked down 9 times and had 5 passes 
defensed.

- Let's highlight the "beasts" from today's game:

  * Quinnen Williams is elevating his game into Aaron Donald territory. 
    He blocked a FG, had 5 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL's and 3 QB Hits (yawn).

  * Quincy Williams made a dramatic return from injury with 14 Tackles
    (many of them HUGE) and coverage all over the field.

  * CJ Mosley was an excellent "tag team partner" to Williams as he had
    11 Tackles (many of them HUGE) and one pass defensed.

  * Ahmad Gardner's coverage skills are so advanced for a rookie it's
    ridiculous.  He has serious make up speed, change of direction,
    ability to close on routes and the ability to knock balls out of
    receivers hands.  If Gardner keeps on this path we will be bringing
    up Revis comparisons fairly soon.

  * DJ Reed may be short but his coverage skills and physicality make up
    for it.  In addition Michael Carter shouldn't be forgotten because he's
    raised his game in his second year.

  * The safety play of Jordan Whitehead and Lamarcus Joyner has elevated
    since the CIN debacle.  Now when double coverage is being called they're
    consistently in position.  Also, they are providing a physical presence
    when they are coming into "the box".


Offense

- The performance of the offense can be summed up in one word "sledgehammer".
The OLine and running game led the way with 33 rushes for 179 yards (5.4 avg).
Duane Brown needs special recognition as the 37 year old wasn't only physical
but fast.  As multiple times he got into space and blocked LB's and DB's 10+
yards downfield to break long runs.

- Breece Hall was the star with 115 yards on 20 rushes and a TD.  We may have 
entered with a committee approach in the RB rotation but Hall is going to 
change that.  His production will make him RB1 shortly with Michael Carter as
the "change of pace" RB.

- Tremendous play call by Mike LaFleur on Hall's TD run.  Wonderful use of
motion and misdirection led to a gaping hole in GB defense.

- Huge two play sequence by Corey Davis in the third quarter that got the
offense going.  A 10 yard slant that got a first down then a 40 yard bomb
that led to a TD by Berrios on a Jet sweep.  


QB

- Zach Wilson was a game manager again as he generated very little in the
passing game going 10/18 for 110 yards.  He had one "sexy" sequence when
he connected with Davis on the 40 yarder mentioned earlier.  But let's 
not overlook Wilson's most important stat, he's 3-0 since he's come back
from injury.  And the offense is averaging 30 points a game, hard to
complain about that.  

 

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54 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Another Jet fan sad about being 4 and 2.

Sincerely that must be tough.

Yeah, that’s what my post was about.

Definitely not the fact that even when things are going good, we must endure obtuse, 2nd grade reading level musings that still lean on hyperbole to offer counter arguments to something nobody said.

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It seems to me that Zach turns it on when he really needs to. 3-3 game in the 3rd qtr and he hits Cory Davis for a 1st down then a 41 yard bomb. Everything was basically runs after that. He didn’t need to pass anymore. Now a smart defense is going to sell out to stop the run and dare Zach to beat them - and that’s when Zach is gonna have to step up for a larger portion of the game. Zach did it against Pittsburgh in the 4th qtr but I haven’t seen him do it for a full game yet this season but I have confidence that Zach can do it and win games by passing and he will show us. 

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7 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Yeah, that’s what my post was about.

Definitely not the fact that even when things are going good, we must endure obtuse, 2nd grade reading level musings that still lean on hyperbole to offer counter arguments to something nobody said.

"Obtuse Second Grade Musings..." LOL

I promise - When the Jets continue to win with Zach Wilson you'll be okay...

Your condescending attitude doesn't help - but your obvious superior intellect won't be severely tarnished by being wrong.  

 

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2 hours ago, KRL said:

Amazing!!!  For the first time since 2019 the Jets have won three games
in a row as they physically manhandled GB 27-10.  In back to back weeks
the Jets have stomped out an opponent and made the final 8 minutes of
the 4th quarter irrelevant:


Special Teams

- Even though he missed a 54 yarder Greg Zuerlein continued his solid
season as he went 2/3 on FG's and 3/3 on XP's.  His leg strength on
KO's has surprised me.

- Excellent game by Braden Mann (45 yd avg) particularly in the first
half when he "flipped" field position multiple times when the offense
was struggling.

- Braxton Berrios was productive as usual with a 29 yd avg on KO's and
an 11 yd avg on punts.

- The punt protection had one mishap as Jamien Sherwood didn't seal off
the middle of the line and allowed a punt block.  But other than that
Brant Boyer's units were off the charts as Quinnen Williams blocked a
FG and Michael Clemons blocked a punt that led to a "scoop & score" by
Will Parks.


Defense

- I can't remember a defensive effort as good as we saw today, it must
be back in the 2009 and 2010 seasons when Rex Ryan was HC.  Much improved
secondary play and relentless DLine pressure abused Aaron Rodgers all
day.  As he was sacked 4 times, knocked down 9 times and had 5 passes 
defensed.

- Let's highlight the "beasts" from today's game:

  * Quinnen Williams is elevating his game into Aaron Donald territory. 
    He blocked a FG, had 5 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 2 TFL's and 3 QB Hits (yawn).

  * Quincy Williams made a dramatic return from injury with 14 Tackles
    (many of them HUGE) and coverage all over the field.

  * CJ Mosley was an excellent "tag team partner" to Williams as he had
    11 Tackles (many of them HUGE) and one pass defensed.

  * Ahmad Gardner's coverage skills are so advanced for a rookie it's
    ridiculous.  He has serious make up speed, change of direction,
    ability to close on routes and the ability to knock balls out of
    receivers hands.  If Gardner keeps on this path we will be bringing
    up Revis comparisons fairly soon.

  * DJ Reed may be short but his coverage skills and physicality make up
    for it.  In addition Michael Carter shouldn't be forgotten because he's
    raised his game in his second year.

  * The safety play of Jordan Whitehead and Lamarcus Joyner has elevated
    since the CIN debacle.  Now when double coverage is being called they're
    consistently in position.  Also, they are providing a physical presence
    when they are coming into "the box".


Offense

- The performance of the offense can be summed up in one word "sledgehammer".
The OLine and running game led the way with 33 rushes for 179 yards (5.4 avg).
Duane Brown needs special recognition as the 37 year old wasn't only physical
but fast.  As multiple times he got into space and blocked LB's and DB's 10+
yards downfield to break long runs.

- Breece Hall was the star with 115 yards on 20 rushes and a TD.  We may have 
entered with a committee approach in the RB rotation but Hall is going to 
change that.  His production will make him RB1 shortly with Michael Carter as
the "change of pace" RB.

- Tremendous play call by Mike LaFleur on Hall's TD run.  Wonderful use of
motion and misdirection led to a gaping hole in GB defense.

- Huge two play sequence by Corey Davis in the third quarter that got the
offense going.  A 10 yard slant that got a first down then a 40 yard bomb
that led to a TD by Berrios on a Jet sweep.  


QB

- Zach Wilson was a game manager again as he generated very little in the
passing game going 10/18 for 110 yards.  He had one "sexy" sequence when
he connected with Davis on the 40 yarder mentioned earlier.  But let's 
not overlook Wilson's most important stat, he's 3-0 since he's come back
from injury.  And the offense is averaging 30 points a game, hard to
complain about that.  

Minor disagreement. Offense really worries me. We did nothing for an entire half. It was putrid. Alls good that ends well but this offense off breece hall is fantastic but they and by they I mean Zach Wilson needs to hit his check downs and alsonthrow to g Wilson and e Moore . Maybe a little less berrios

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17 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Yeah, that’s what my post was about.

Definitely not the fact that even when things are going good, we must endure obtuse, 2nd grade reading level musings that still lean on hyperbole to offer counter arguments to something nobody said.

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3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Just as Zach was getting hot, we didnt need him anymore.  These blowouts are not condusive to big passing numbers.  If anythng, we are startig to looking like Rex's afc championship teams.

Lots of differences.  Rex defense was base 34 with lots of variations at the first and second level and mostly press man with CB's a high S and Box S.  Rex offense was a combo of zone and man blocking and no tendency in the passing game other than sanchez throwing to his left followed by a pic 6.  They also liked to run a lot of unbalanced line on offense and they ran to the right almost all the time. 

Saleh defense has very little variations in the first and second level and lots of zone coverage on the back end with some man here and there.  Also a lot more speed.  Rex defense was big and slow especially at the second level. Saleh offense wide outside zone blocking and thus far, they are still in flux with who they are in the passing game.                

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14 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

"Obtuse Second Grade Musings..." LOL

I promise - When the Jets continue to win with Zach Wilson you'll be okay...

Your condescending attitude doesn't help - but your obvious superior intellect won't be severely tarnished by being wrong.  

 

I’ve never seen this many words used to say absolutely nothing.

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3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Just as Zach was getting hot, we didnt need him anymore.  These blowouts are not condusive to big passing numbers.  If anythng, we are startig to looking like Rex's afc championship teams.

We don't need Zach in games like this one. If the Jets get into the playoffs, they won't get far leaning on their rushing game in this pass-happy NFL. We better hope Zach improves. There weren't many passes in this game, but at least 2 of them were INT-worthy passes and while a few of the passes were impressive, a lot of them he was bailed out by the receiver. Plus, the RBs are going to have a bad day one of these games. Zach needs to be able to step up. This is a QB league, and teams aren't going to go far enough without a good QB. 

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2 hours ago, bostonmajet said:

Nice writeup as usual. I would say that this D is better than Rex's D. Rex D would have big game and then slump. This is the second big game in a row. Rex D would hold, hold and give up a big 3rd down play - this team produced so many 3 and outs this week it isn't even funny. Take away the penalties and there would have been a couple more 3 and outs and likely the score would have been more lopsided.

The Rex run D would get blown out of games and often lose to both great QB and a rookie QB would have their best games against them. This team hasn't had that problem.

Let's hope that this D and this teams running game will take us as far as Rex did.

Rex’s d was a highly leveraged pos that required everyone to not be hurt. Our linchpins pass rushers we’re jags Calvin pace and a 35 year old jason Taylor. We never could get a good number 2 cb. David Harris could be exposed in coverage and Bart Scott was ineffective if he got hurt. 
 

this defense is absolutely way better than anything Rex has fielded.

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Rex’s d was a highly leveraged pos that required everyone to not be hurt. Our linchpins pass rushers we’re jags Calvin pace and a 35 year old jason Taylor. We never could get a good number 2 cb. David Harris could be exposed in coverage and Bart Scott was ineffective if he got hurt. 
 
this defense is absolutely way better than anything Rex has fielded.
Rex never really had this type of d line...

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