Popular Post Dunnie Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 That is all. Thank you. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 The running game, defense and STs have carried the heavy load on back-to-back touchdown-less performances by Wilson. He is still playing with rookie-like instincts but without the turnovers, so there still hope for the kid. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The running game, defense and STs have carried the heavy load on back-to-back touchdown-less performances by Wilson. He still playing with rookie-like instincts but without the turnovers, so there still hope for the kid.Who led the Game winning drive against the Steelers in Pittsburgh? *The kid deserves credit, come on now. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Who led the Game winning drive against the Steelers in Pittsburgh? *The kid deserves credit, come on now. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile appI guess 1 out of 3 is worth something. Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gastineau Lives Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 Hey look, someone laid out this plate of cookies for the cockroaches 2 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said: Who led the Game winning drive against the Steelers in Pittsburgh? *The kid deserves credit, come on now. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app maybe he wouldnt have had to do that game winning drive if he didnt throw for 25% comp in the first 3 qts. ok i give him credit for that 4th but come on now, he been a passenger on this train like Mark Sanchez. he is like the 5th best player right now and thats sad for your QB . AVT, Hall, Sause, DJ, QW, even Mosley have all been better. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said: Hey look, someone laid out this plate of cookies for the cockroaches “ Not today roaches, Crushers here!” 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 While it is awesome the Jets are 4-2, and 3-0 since Zach’s return, it feels a bit early to be taking victory laps on Zach just yet. Im just happy we’re still playing games that matter at this point. It’s been awhile, usually we’re like 0-6 or 1-5 and effectively out by now. So 4-2 is great! And while Zach clearly still has serious issues, we’re winning and that is what matters. He’ll need to improve to keep it rolling, so we’ll see. Winning buys guys time and patience. On to Denver. 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, doitny said: maybe he wouldnt have had to do that game winning drive if he didnt throw for 25% comp in the first 3 qts. ok i give him credit for that 4th but come on now, he been a passenger on this train like Mark Sanchez. he is like the 5th best player right now and thats sad for your QB . AVT, Hall, Sause, DJ, QW, even Mosley have all been better. Maybe if you hadn't spent 3 quarters convincing yourself how much Zach sucks and giving up on the Jets you could have enjoyed 15 minutes of eltie NFL QB play. 2 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Biggs said: Maybe if you hadn't spent 3 quarters convincing yourself how much Zach sucks and giving up on the Jets you could have enjoyed 15 minutes of eltie NFL QB play. oh i enjoyed it. but i cant forget what else i seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biggs Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, doitny said: oh i enjoyed it. but i cant forget what else i seen. Why not? He's in his second year. He's not turning the ball over. He's managing the games well. When we needed him to bring us back in the 4th quarter he was cool in crunch time and calmly brought the team to victory with absolute elite QB play. Rodgers is one of the greatest QB's in NFL history. He was dogsh*t yesterday at home. He padded his stats because of some iffy penalties but overall he was putrid. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Yeah he is! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post usanyj Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 I think multiple things can be true at once. The jets have won each game since he's been back. Great! He has made plays that I think Flacco gets killed during. Great! He did put the team on his back in the 4th quarter of the steeler game. Great! But he hasn't been asked to do much, he has shown flashes with some throws, but he still shows flashes of being a young and inexperienced player (which he is). He has really only played in 16 games which technically is less than a season, and he has shown improvement. But at some point, and it may be next week, hes going to have to sling it because the run game and gimmicks wont work. He hasn't proven he can do it over a 4 quarter game. He still hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game. While im happy we are winning, and I'm a zach supporter, these things concern me. 3 full games and 1 passing td dont add up. The way the jets are winning isnt sustainable in todays NFL. The Titans couldn't win when Henry was stopped and Tannehill was forced to carry the team. While Wilson has a better skillset than Tannehill, he has to show he can put up passing numbers in a back and forth game. Hopefully he can do that, but he has yet to prove he can do it consistently. Moral is, you can be happy they are 4-2 and concerned about some things at the same time. This is the most talented team we've had since those rex years, and we are young! if they continue to grow this can get really fun, but Zach needs to grow. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I give him credit for that 4th quarter against the Steelers. Besides that he still looks like a rookie; just with less turnovers. This isn’t sustainable but I’m happy we’re winning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, August said: I give him credit for that 4th quarter against the Steelers. Besides that he still looks like a rookie; just with less turnovers. This isn’t sustainable but I’m happy we’re winning. Every single time the game flow has required a pass heavy attack he’s delivered. He’s playing like Ryan Tannehill, not a rookie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: That is all. Thank you. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Well Said. I think we’re all in agreement that Zach had a tough day today. Although you have to tip your cap to the Packers pass defense as well but regardless he struggled today. However we relied on him to win against the Steelers and he rose to the occasion. Last week he didn’t put up flashy stats but he managed the game very well and didn’t make mistakes besides the one sack. Most importantly like you said we are 3-0 since he came back from injury. I’ll take that every day of the week twice on Sunday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Biggs said: Why not? He's in his second year. He's not turning the ball over. He's managing the games well. When we needed him to bring us back in the 4th quarter he was cool in crunch time and calmly brought the team to victory with absolute elite QB play. Rodgers is one of the greatest QB's in NFL history. He was dogsh*t yesterday at home. He padded his stats because of some iffy penalties but overall he was putrid. he had one 4th qt ( Pitts). yesterday he didnt pass once in the 4th. last week 3 times and one was all Hall YAC yards. how is he leading us by handing it to Hall? we seen flashes from guys like Sam Darnold, but we have a better roster and we are winning so people are blind to it. we seen Mark Sanchez game manager a stacked roster but he could never be a FQB. and the similarities to Sanchez are scary. they both have bad comp % and dont throw TDs. but we were winning so we let it go. hey we just went to our 2nd AFCCG so no worries, Sanchez will get better.. then start blaming the roster isnt stacked for our losing but it really was our QB sucked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Biggs said: Why not? He's in his second year. He's not turning the ball over. He's managing the games well. When we needed him to bring us back in the 4th quarter he was cool in crunch time and calmly brought the team to victory with absolute elite QB play. Rodgers is one of the greatest QB's in NFL history. He was dogsh*t yesterday at home. He padded his stats because of some iffy penalties but overall he was putrid. Ok, first off, Why not? Are you serious? For 3 qrts Zach was a liability and we shoukd just ignore that? I am over the moon right now about the Jets. Lambeau is a really difficult place to win and I don't believe the Packers are a bad team, I just think the Jets are better but the play we have gotten from Zach is not going to cut it. The difference is we have kept the score close for 3 qrts while he is trying to find himself. There is going to be a game where a team is going to put the clamps on our RBs and will beat our D for a fee early TDs. Zach better not take 3 qrts to warm up in that game. As far as Rogers, he isn't bad, but our D made him look every bit of 38 that he is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 When Green Bay made it game, scoring and taking the score to 17-10. The Jets received the ball and Zach Wilson went 2/2 for 30 yards before Hall took it for 30 yards for a TD to make it 2 score game. It's almost like Football is a team game. 11 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 He's not being asked to carry the team, the running game is working; special teams and defense are both beautiful. It won't work that way versus all NFL teams but the rookies are getting experience, the team is getting the taste of winning and Zach is not creating turnovers. Beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Well Said. I think we’re all in agreement that Zach had a tough day today. Although you have to tip your cap to the Packers pass defense as well but regardless he struggled today. However we relied on him to win against the Steelers and he rose to the occasion. Last week he didn’t put up flashy stats but he managed the game very well and didn’t make mistakes besides the one sack. Most importantly like you said we are 3-0 since he came back from injury. I’ll take that every day of the week twice on Sunday Two completions for 53 yards that set up the go ahead TD in the third quarter of a tie game. After a first down completion to Davis he made a great play action fake, calmly rolled out to the right, set his feet and hit Davis for a very big play in a tie game on the road. I'm not in agreement that Zach had a tough day. We had very conservative play calling in the first half of a game where both teams were feeling each other out and the D was dominating on both sides of the ball. In the third quarter Zach made two critical passes that completely fliped field position and put Green Bay's D on their heels for the rest of the game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, doitny said: he had one 4th qt ( Pitts). yesterday he didnt pass once in the 4th. last week 3 times and one was all Hall YAC yards. how is he leading us by handing it to Hall? we seen flashes from guys like Sam Darnold, but we have a better roster and we are winning so people are blind to it. we seen Mark Sanchez game manager a stacked roster but he could never be a FQB. and the similarities to Sanchez are scary. they both have bad comp % and dont throw TDs. but we were winning so we let it go. hey we just went to our 2nd AFCCG so no worries, Sanchez will get better.. then start blaming the roster isnt stacked for our losing but it really was our QB sucked. Zach Wilson is NOTHING like Mark Sanchez. Completely different players. Zach is a far superior talent that has shown the ability to carry the team. You don't have to like Zach, that's fine. You can try and explain away anything positive he does, that's fine. But he is nothing like Mark Sanchez - just because they were both Jets doesn't make them similar players. They're nothing alike. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, Biggs said: Two completions for 53 yards that set up the go ahead TD in the third quarter of a tie game. After a first down copletion to Davis he made a great play action fake, calmly rolled out to the right, set his feet and hit Davis for a very big play in a tie game on the road. I'm not in agreement that Zach had a tough day. We had very conservative play calling in the first half of a game where both teams were feeling each other out and the D was dominating on both sides of the ball. In the thrid quarter Zach made two critical passes that completely fliped field position and put Green Bay's D on their heels for the rest of the game. That’s Fair. LeFleur seemed very erratic in the first half. These is no question Zach make plays in the second half but if I’m being fair I will say that he looked uncomfortable in the first half. It happens to every QB. I mean we made Rodgers look lost too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Ok, first off, Why not? Are you serious? For 3 qrts Zach was a liability and we shoukd just ignore that? I am over the moon right now about the Jets. Lambeau is a really difficult place to win and I don't believe the Packers are a bad team, I just think the Jets are better but the play we have gotten from Zach is not going to cut it. The difference is we have kept the score close for 3 qrts while he is trying to find himself. There is going to be a game where a team is going to put the clamps on our RBs and will beat our D for a fee early TDs. Zach better not take 3 qrts to warm up in that game. As far as Rogers, he isn't bad, but our D made him look every bit of 38 that he is. This is just wrong. Yes, he wasn't good the first half yesterday....but was more than fine in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Not a liability at all. And the previous wins - he was NEVER a liability. He had some up and down moments (like every other QB in the NFL) Sometime I really do wonder if some people (not saying you) actually watch NFL games. quite often games start slow - points are harder to come by early. Heck, Josh Allen had put up 3 points with 3 minutes left in the half yesterday. Zach surely struggled in the first half yesterday - but let's not try and back track that to the first two games as well, cause it's just not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Zach Wilson is NOTHING like Mark Sanchez. Completely different players. Zach is a far superior talent that has shown the ability to carry the team. You don't have to like Zach, that's fine. You can try and explain away anything positive he does, that's fine. But he is nothing like Mark Sanchez - just because they were both Jets doesn't make them similar players. They're nothing alike. Look I have zero problem with fans who say “I’m not sure if Zach is the guy or not”. That’s perfectly reasonable and hey I’m not even sure yet. However it seems like a group of people don’t want to acknowledge anything positive with him and just think he is a liability being dragged along. It reminds me of Randy Quaid in Major League 2 for those who have seen that movie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, doitny said: maybe he wouldnt have had to do that game winning drive if he didnt throw for 25% comp in the first 3 qts. ok i give him credit for that 4th but come on now, he been a passenger on this train like Mark Sanchez. he is like the 5th best player right now and thats sad for your QB . AVT, Hall, Sause, DJ, QW, even Mosley have all been better. and with Sanchez, the jets went to the AFC Championship game twice!! Zach is much better than Sanchez, so maybe....Sup.....meh. Not going there yet, but you get the point. 3 and 0 bay bay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, usanyj said: But he hasn't been asked to do much, he has shown flashes with some throws, but he still shows flashes of being a young and inexperienced player (which he is). He has really only played in 16 games which technically is less than a season, and he has shown improvement. But at some point, and it may be next week, hes going to have to sling it because the run game and gimmicks wont work. He hasn't proven he can do it over a 4 quarter game. He still hasn't thrown for 300 yards in a game. The offense the Jets were running yesterday is the offense I expected over the summer after they traded up to select Breece Hall. That plan kinda went out the window when Becton went down again, followed by Fant, and then Brown, and then Mitchell. Ugh. But credit to team MVP ATV and the coaching staff for putting together an NFL capable OL on the fly. Their additions after the draft of Herbig and Brown have been huge. The Jets screwed up last year by not having Flacco or a reasonable facsimile start the first month of the season. Throwing Zach into the fire when no one had a clue what they were doing was a disaster. They appear to’ve hit the reset button this year. They’re protecting Zach. They’re letting him build confidence with wins while the team carries him. Yesterday, when they needed him, he hit a couple big throws to go up by two TDs again and I’m not sure if they attempted another pass after that. It’s a team game. The team is scoring TDs with Zach under center. I’m not remotely concerned about his individual stats as long as the team is rolling. The worst part of his game last year was handling the routine stuff. He’s doing that just fine this year. He obviously needs to get better, but the play of the rest of the team is taking the pressure off of him and that was the plan all along. Get him comfortable and then let the gunslinger out. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Zach Wilson is NOTHING like Mark Sanchez. Completely different players. Zach is a far superior talent that has shown the ability to carry the team. You don't have to like Zach, that's fine. You can try and explain away anything positive he does, that's fine. But he is nothing like Mark Sanchez - just because they were both Jets doesn't make them similar players. They're nothing alike. To be fair they both have shown to be clutch when they needed to be. But similarities stop there. Zach’s ceiling is way beyond Mark’s ever was, but unless he reaches it they may have very similar career trajectories. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, doitny said: and the similarities to Sanchez are scary. they both have bad comp % and dont throw TDs. but we were winning so we let it go. hey we just went to our 2nd AFCCG so no worries, Sanchez will get better.. then start blaming the roster isnt stacked for our losing but it really was our QB sucked. Sanchez never saw the pressure that Zach has seen. Nothing even close. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 He’s a young unfinished project that is developing before our eyes. He has five years to become the guy that can carry a team. It’s qb building 101 and JD has done a great job of putting a team together. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, slats said: Sanchez never saw the pressure that Zach has seen. Nothing even close. True. We had a good oline protecting him and obviously why we used the running game mainly too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: This is just wrong. Yes, he wasn't good the first half yesterday....but was more than fine in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Not a liability at all. And the previous wins - he was NEVER a liability. He had some up and down moments (like every other QB in the NFL) Sometime I really do wonder if some people (not saying you) actually watch NFL games. quite often games start slow - points are harder to come by early. Heck, Josh Allen had put up 3 points with 3 minutes left in the half yesterday. Zach surely struggled in the first half yesterday - but let's not try and back track that to the first two games as well, cause it's just not true. Look, if you want to ignore the warts, fine. Last week I was very high on Zach but he brought me back to earth yesterday. The guy made 3 passes that mattered the whole game. I am starting to see a lot of Sanchez and Mayfield in him. Sanchez just didn't make the killer mistake and Mayfield had such a good run game, he barely threw the ball. Here is the kicker about yesterday. Zach played stupid football yesterday. He held the ball for what seemed like an eternity yesterday. At a certain point you either throw it or run. He did niether. Zack was also throwing behind his receivers. On the pass to Moore in the second half, he is lucky that wasn't picked and if that was, that was going to the house unless Moore runs the guy down. It is ok if he doesn't put up gawdy numbers but he needs to play smart. Yes, he was a liability. Breaking the pocket and running straight into a defender who is being blocked by an OL is stupid. Holding the ball as long as he was is stupid. He needs to be better than this. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Look, if you want to ignore the warts, fine. Last week I was very high on Zach but he brought me back to earth yesterday. The guy made 3 passes that mattered the whole game. I am starting to see a lot of Sanchez and Mayfield in him. Sanchez just didn't make the killer mistake and Mayfield had such a good run game, he barely threw the ball. Here is the kicker about yesterday. Zach played stupid football yesterday. He held the ball for what seemed like an eternity yesterday. At a certain point you either throw it or run. He did niether. Zack was also throwing behind his receivers. On the pass to Moore in the second half, he is lucky that wasn't picked and if that was, that was going to the house unless Moore runs the guy down. It is ok if he doesn't put up gawdy numbers but he needs to play smart. Yes, he was a liability. Breaking the pocket and running straight into a defender who is being blocked by an OL is stupid. Holding the ball as long as he was is stupid. He needs to be better than this. Yes he had a rough game today …it happens. Like you said the previous two game he did a lot of good things that contributed to wins. Today the defense and running game picked him up. That’s not a bad thing it’s a good thing to have a team that can win in different ways. I think we’re all in agreement that he isn’t a finished product Andy there will be bumps in the road just gotta be a tiny bit patient 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Biggs said: Two completions for 53 yards that set up the go ahead TD in the third quarter of a tie game. After a first down completion to Davis he made a great play action fake, calmly rolled out to the right, set his feet and hit Davis for a very big play in a tie game on the road. I'm not in agreement that Zach had a tough day. We had very conservative play calling in the first half of a game where both teams were feeling each other out and the D was dominating on both sides of the ball. In the third quarter Zach made two critical passes that completely fliped field position and put Green Bay's D on their heels for the rest of the game. Yep, both times GB answered, Zach came out and made big plays, completed his passes and helped them get more points on the board by getting us half way there and the running game doing the rest w/ sexy Braxton the end around, again, team sport. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodcharlie Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Run the ball creatively and only give Wilson 18 passes, that’s the way. Keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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