Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 JD was hired on June 7, 2019. 2 questions 1. Any positions we are currently weaker versus 2019? 2. Do we currently have any starters that are below average for their position? QB Sam Darnold >>>>>>>>> Zach Wilson RB Le'Veon Bell >>>>>>>>> Breece Hall WR Robbie Anderson >>>>> Corey Davis WR Demaryius Thomas >>>> Elijah Moore WR Jamison Crowder >>>>> Garrett Wilson TE Ryan Griffin >>>>>>>>> Conklin/Uzomah LT Kelvin Beachum >>>>>> Duane Brown LG Alex Lewis >>>>>>>>> Laken Tomlinson C Jonotthan Harrison >>>> Connor McGovern RG Brian Winters >>>>>>> AVT RT Brandon Shell >>>>>>> George Fant LDE Henry Anderson >>>>> JFM/Johnson/Huff DT Leo Williams / McLendon >>> Quinnen Williams / Rankins RDE Quinnen Williams (rookie) > Carl Lawson LB Jordan Jenkins >>>>>>> Quincy Williams LB CJ Mosley >>>>>>>>> CJ Mosley LB Neville Hewitt >>>>>> Kwon Alexander CB Trumaine Johnson >>> Sauce Gardner CB Darryl Roberts >>>>> DJ Reed CB Brian Poole >>>>>>> Michael Carter II SS Jamal Adams >>>>>> Jordan Whitehead FS Marcus Maye >>>>>> Lamarcus Joyner 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 Jamal and Maye on this defense would be kinda lit.... 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhartonJet Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 Tremendous turnaround. I happened to be looking at the Panthers depth chart for fantasy football purposes and saw that they are STARTING Frankie Luvu at LB, Juston Burris at S, and Henry Anderson is in their DLine rotation. Just hearing those names gave me shivers. The talent on this team vs. the McCagnan teams is night and day. 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jbt Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 not sure who to thank for this 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I don't think there is any current starters that aren't better than their 2019 counterpart. Even CJ Mosely is better than CJ Mosely 2019 with a sports hernia . This team would beat that team to a pulp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Wow. Only argument may be the safeties. And that’s not a lock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peebag Posted October 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2022 I hope to go the rest of my life without seeing/hearing the name "Trumaine Johnson" ever again. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: Jamal and Maye on this defense would be kinda lit.... This offseason they can both be had kind of cheap. Just bail money for Maye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Huge turnaround 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Joe Douglas is good. That should be a t-shirt. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, jbt said: not sure who to thank for this Joe Douglas….2 demerits to you for not saying “Thank you”….TWICE. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, peebag said: I hope to go the rest of my life without seeing/hearing the name "Trumaine Johnson" ever again. I loved Trumaine Johnson. He might have been the best receiver in the USFL. Don't hate the name. Hate the player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Tremendous turn around. The only trade I would make is FS. Maye is better than Joyner. Maye has legal issues though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, jbt said: not sure who to thank for this Jamal Adams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Man that 2019 o-line was ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Man that 2019 o-line was ? Who would you rather have as your OL: 2019 starters: Beachum, Lewis, Harrison, Winters Shell. Or 2022 back-ups: Mitchell, Fant, Remmers, Feeney & Ogbuehi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 So . . . First, JD has done an amazing job, fast, in turning this thing around in 3 short years Second, JD has done an amazing job, fast, in turning this thing around in 3 short years . . . but I was told he sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhartonJet Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Turning over pretty much all of the starters with improved talent is amazing, but what is not shown here is that we actually have depth across most of the roster now too. Really amazing job by JD and his staff. Now we just have to see if the QB can make a leap. If he does, watch out NFL......here come the Jets 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I loved Trumaine Johnson. He might have been the best receiver in the USFL. Don't hate the name. Hate the player. sorry, Houston Gambler fan here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, jbt said: not sure who to thank for this Say it loud, say it proud! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I'm looking forward.....not backwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, peebag said: sorry, Houston Gambler fan here. They were supposed to merge with my Generals! Jim Kelly! Clarence Verdin! The Ice Cube! Mouse Davis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, jbt said: not sure who to thank for this Adam Gase? He did get JD here. Just kidding.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coffee Is Great Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Joe Douglas stinks and should be fired because he didn't win a Super Bowl two years into turning around the biggest disaster in the NFL. What a bum. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 If I was to breakdown the current starting roster into quality buckets, I would have the following. You guys? Star Players (elite): OL AVT, RB Breece, DT Quinnen, CB Sauce. All 4 with All Pro potential (as soon as this year?) Very Good Players (above avg): LT Brown, DL JFM, Edge Lawson, CB Reed* Good Players (avg starters): C McGovern, RT (a healthy) Fant, WR #2-3 Moore*, WR #2-3 Davis, TE Conklin*, TE Uzomah, DT Rankins, LB Mosley, LB Williams*, LB Alexander, CB Carter II, SS Whitehead Undecided: QB Wilson, LG Tomlinson, WR Wilson**, FS Joyner. Consistency is the biggest issue; can look bad to great quarter to quarter or week to week * Untapped upside to next level ** #1 WR upside 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, WhartonJet said: Turning over pretty much all of the starters with improved talent is amazing, but what is not shown here is that we actually have depth across most of the roster now too. Really amazing job by JD and his staff. Now we just have to see if the QB can make a leap. If he does, watch out NFL......here come the Jets The disparity in depth might even be more eye-popping. These are the types of players that help you edge out wins or not get crushed by injuries-- Herbig, Mitchell, Carter, Berrios, Huff, JJ, Clemons, Martin, Echols 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 It's actually a little worse than that. Mosley was hurt in the first game of 2019 IIRC, leaving us with Hewitt or Cashman (I thankfully forget who was the replacement). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 The really insane thing about that roster, was the sheer amount of draft capital, money and contracts that went into acquiring it. We actually had tens of millions of dollars of debt from that disaster hampering JDs FA moves all the way up until last year!! Meanwhile, we have one of the youngest, brightest, deepest rosters in the league, with very few bad contracts or dead money hampering our moves. It is IMO, GM of the year sort of turnaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said: Jamal and Maye on this defense would be kinda lit.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Maxman said: Joe Douglas is good. That should be a t-shirt. Thank you, Joe D. Thank you! ...I've seen it somewhere before, could be a hit too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: JD was hired on June 7, 2019. 2 questions 1. Any positions we are currently weaker versus 2019? 2. Do we currently have any starters that are below average for their position? QB Sam Darnold >>>>>>>>> Zach Wilson RB Le'Veon Bell >>>>>>>>> Breece Hall WR Robbie Anderson >>>>> Corey Davis WR Demaryius Thomas >>>> Elijah Moore WR Jamison Crowder >>>>> Garrett Wilson TE Ryan Griffin >>>>>>>>> Conklin/Uzomah LT Kelvin Beachum >>>>>> Duane Brown LG Alex Lewis >>>>>>>>> Laken Tomlinson C Jonotthan Harrison >>>> Connor McGovern RG Brian Winters >>>>>>> AVT RT Brandon Shell >>>>>>> George Fant LDE Henry Anderson >>>>> JFM/Johnson/Huff DT Leo Williams / McLendon >>> Quinnen Williams / Rankins RDE Quinnen Williams (rookie) > Carl Lawson LB Jordan Jenkins >>>>>>> Quincy Williams LB CJ Mosley >>>>>>>>> CJ Mosley LB Neville Hewitt >>>>>> Kwon Alexander CB Trumaine Johnson >>> Sauce Gardner CB Darryl Roberts >>>>> DJ Reed CB Brian Poole >>>>>>> Michael Carter II SS Jamal Adams >>>>>> Jordan Whitehead FS Marcus Maye >>>>>> Lamarcus Joyner Amazing turnover in 3 years. Yikes. This team was terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I don't think there is any current starters that aren't better than their 2019 counterpart. Even CJ Mosely is better than CJ Mosely 2019 with a sports hernia . This team would beat that team to a pulp.Might be time to play each of those teams against each other in maddenSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Zachtomims47 said: Jamal and Maye on this defense would be kinda lit.... You think theyre an upgrade over Joyner and Whitehead? Im feeling like we have better pass defense with our current pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: JD was hired on June 7, 2019. 2 questions 1. Any positions we are currently weaker versus 2019? 2. Do we currently have any starters that are below average for their position? QB Sam Darnold >>>>>>>>> Zach Wilson RB Le'Veon Bell >>>>>>>>> Breece Hall WR Robbie Anderson >>>>> Corey Davis WR Demaryius Thomas >>>> Elijah Moore WR Jamison Crowder >>>>> Garrett Wilson TE Ryan Griffin >>>>>>>>> Conklin/Uzomah LT Kelvin Beachum >>>>>> Duane Brown LG Alex Lewis >>>>>>>>> Laken Tomlinson C Jonotthan Harrison >>>> Connor McGovern RG Brian Winters >>>>>>> AVT RT Brandon Shell >>>>>>> George Fant LDE Henry Anderson >>>>> JFM/Johnson/Huff DT Leo Williams / McLendon >>> Quinnen Williams / Rankins RDE Quinnen Williams (rookie) > Carl Lawson LB Jordan Jenkins >>>>>>> Quincy Williams LB CJ Mosley >>>>>>>>> CJ Mosley LB Neville Hewitt >>>>>> Kwon Alexander CB Trumaine Johnson >>> Sauce Gardner CB Darryl Roberts >>>>> DJ Reed CB Brian Poole >>>>>>> Michael Carter II SS Jamal Adams >>>>>> Jordan Whitehead FS Marcus Maye >>>>>> Lamarcus Joyner Man other than maye...I like Andersen but I'm not sure he is better. Wow what a change. This old roster is depressing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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