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28 minutes ago, JohnJ said:

RJ had one of those good games. If he did that consistently they'd be trouble. Still hope to see Grimes worked in better but winning games the way did there's not much to complain about

It's a fun series but man, hard not to imagine how the Knicks would look had they budged on RJ in the Mitchell deal. Brunson/Mitchell/Randle would definitely have put them in the running for the East this year.

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1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

It's a fun series but man, hard not to imagine how the Knicks would look had they budged on RJ in the Mitchell deal. Brunson/Mitchell/Randle would definitely have put them in the running for the East this year.

I thought the sticking point wasn’t RJ, but the 6 first round picks (plus IQ/Grimes/Obi/McBride)? 
 

I guess we’ll never know for sure. 

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1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said:

It's a fun series but man, hard not to imagine how the Knicks would look had they budged on RJ in the Mitchell deal. Brunson/Mitchell/Randle would definitely have put them in the running for the East this year.

Yeah, I was hoping that trade happened. Randle needed help and Brunson made a big difference for him. I was happy for him. 

Will be interesting to see how RJ and Spida do tomorrow

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22 hours ago, JohnJ said:

Yeah, I was hoping that trade happened. Randle needed help and Brunson made a big difference for him. I was happy for him. 

Will be interesting to see how RJ and Spida do tomorrow

Spida did exactly what we needed him to do 

Shout out to Spida!

much love and respect 

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36 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Knicks win knicks win knicks win!

Wow! This could be an epic year for a Jets, Mets, Knicks, Rangers fan like myself!

Brunson… this young man just amazes me. Not the biggest, quickest but just has a bball IQ far above everyone else’s 

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4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Wow! This could be an epic year for a Jets, Mets, Knicks, Rangers fan like myself!

Brunson… this young man just amazes me. Not the biggest, quickest but just has a bball IQ far above everyone else’s 

Dallas letting Brunson get away was such a monumental blunder on their part.

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2 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Wow! This could be an epic year for a Jets, Mets, Knicks, Rangers fan like myself!

Brunson… this young man just amazes me. Not the biggest, quickest but just has a bball IQ far above everyone else’s 

UCONN, Jets, Knicks, Rangers, Yanks for me!!!!

Knicks Heat rekindling the single greatest rivalry of my childhood….chills. Can’t ******* wait!

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I call BS

https://sports.yahoo.com/espns-mark-jackson-apologizes-after-nba-reveals-he-left-nikola-jokic-off-his-mvp-ballot-211937128.html

ESPN's Mark Jackson apologizes after NBA reveals he left Nikola Jokić off his MVP ballot

ESPN's Mark Jackson apologizes after NBA reveals he left Nikola Jokić off his MVP ballot
Jack Baer
Thu, May 11, 2023, 5:19 PM EDT
The mystery of the Nikola Jokić MVP snubber has been solved. The culprit: ESPN's Mark Jackson, who quickly apologized after being unmasked Thursday.

For more than a week, it had been clear one MVP voter left the Denver Nuggets center off their ballot entirely after the voting totals were revealed. Out of 100 voters, Jokić received 15 first-place votes, 52 second-place votes and 32 third-place votes, which adds up to 99 total appearances.

The snub didn't cost Jokić a third straight MVP award — he still finished well short of Philadelphia 76ers star Joel Embiid and his 73 first-place votes — but it did seem to be a pretty clear attempt to limit his chances at doing so, or at least make an ideological stand against his candidacy. After all, no one voted him for fourth- or fifth-place.

Clarity finally arrived Thursday, when the NBA released the ballots of all 100 voters. Jackson, the former NBA All-Star and head coach of the Golden State Warriors, was the lone media member without Jokić in his top five.

Here's how he voted instead.

Mark Jackson's Nikola Jokić-less NBA MVP ballot
Joel Embiid, C, Philadelphia 76ers
Giannis Antetokounmpo, F, Milwaukee Bucks
Jayson Tatum, F, Boston Celtics
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, G, Oklahoma City Thunder
Donovan Mitchell, G, Cleveland Cavaliers
Mark Jackson explains his MVP vote
Less than two hours after that ballot was unveiled, Jackson appeared on SiriusXM to explain himself. He called the ballot a "mistake," indicating he thought he was making an All-NBA vote, and apologized to Jokić and the Nuggets.

Jackson said he would understand if his vote is taken away in the future.

"Mistake. One thing I live by, you make a mistake, you own it. I'm not a guy that does it for clicks or to be trending. Absolute mistake made by me. I am thinking, how did I make that mistake? You can tell, I put one center, two forwards and two guards, so I wasn't even thinking. I apologize to the Denver Nuggets, I apologize to Nikola Jokić, who is not only in the MVP discussion and deserved to be on my ballot, but he's one of the greatest players in the history of this game. He's a top-10 center of all time.

"So, I own it. If you want to take away my vote or whatever, you're more than welcome. I made a mistake. I would have still voted for Joel Embiid the MVP, but with Giannis and Joker second and third. They deserve that, incredible year by him, he continues to make history. I own the mistake and I apologize."

He apologized again on Twitter, calling Jokić a legitimate MVP candidate and an all-time great.


Charles Barkley, and many others, blasted Nikola Jokić snubber without knowing it was Mark Jackson
Jackson's ballot was criticized as soon as NBA fans did the math last week, and one of the most forceful criticisms came from his broadcasting peer, fellow former NBA player Charles Barkley.

The longtime TNT commentator unloaded on the Jokić snubber during a segment on "Inside the NBA" on Monday:

"There's something that's been bothering me. Joel deserved the MVP and Joker and Giannis, they were 1-2-3, however you voted. There's one person — I don't even know this fool's name — didn't even have Joker in the top five. People like that shouldn't get a vote.

"For the last six months, we talked about Joker, Giannis and Embiid. If you have a television, or you actually watch basketball, if you don't think he should have been in the top five, you don't deserve a vote. You could be like some of these fools we be letting vote for president out here ... He's a damn idiot."

It should be said, if a person legitimately doesn't think a player wasn't one of the five most valuable players in the NBA during a season, they should be within their rights to leave him off their ballot. But that's clearly not what happened here.

ESPN analyst Mark Jackson looks on prior to the game between the Boston Celtics and Philadelphia 76ers at the Wells Fargo Center on February 25, 2023 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Celtics defeated the 76ers 110-107. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images)
Mark Jackson had some explaining to do. (Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images)
As Barkley and, later, Jackson argued, you would have to keep your head in the sand for a long time to conclude Jokić shouldn't be on an MVP ballot at all. He averaged nearly a triple-double, with 24.5 points, 11.8 rebounds and 9.8 assists per game, while shooting a career-high 63.2% and leading his team to a 53-29 record, best in the Western Conference.

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:42 PM, JohnJ said:

I call BS

https://sports.yahoo.com/espns-mark-jackson-apologizes-after-nba-reveals-he-left-nikola-jokic-off-his-mvp-ballot-211937128.html

ESPN's Mark Jackson apologizes after NBA reveals he left Nikola Jokić off his MVP ballot

ESPN's Mark Jackson apologizes after NBA reveals he left Nikola Jokić off his MVP ballot
Jack Baer
Thu, May 11, 2023, 5:19 PM EDT
The mystery of the Nikola Jokić MVP snubber has been solved. The culprit: ESPN's Mark Jackson, who quickly apologized after being unmasked Thursday.

For more than a week, it had been clear one MVP voter left the Denver Nuggets center off their ballot entirely after the voting totals were revealed. Out of 100 voters, Jokić received 15 first-place votes, 52 second-place votes and 32 third-place votes, which adds up to 99 total appearances.

The snub didn't cost Jokić a third straight MVP award — he still finished well short of Philadelphia 76ers star Joel Embiid and his 73 first-place votes — but it did seem to be a pretty clear attempt to limit his chances at doing so, or at least make an ideological stand against his candidacy. After all, no one voted him for fourth- or fifth-place.

Clarity finally arrived Thursday, when the NBA released the ballots of all 100 voters. Jackson, the former NBA All-Star and head coach of the Golden State Warriors, was the lone media member without Jokić in his top five.

Here's how he voted instead.

Mark Jackson's Nikola Jokić-less NBA MVP ballot
Joel Embiid, C, Philadelphia 76ers
Giannis Antetokounmpo, F, Milwaukee Bucks
Jayson Tatum, F, Boston Celtics
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, G, Oklahoma City Thunder
Donovan Mitchell, G, Cleveland Cavaliers
Mark Jackson explains his MVP vote
Less than two hours after that ballot was unveiled, Jackson appeared on SiriusXM to explain himself. He called the ballot a "mistake," indicating he thought he was making an All-NBA vote, and apologized to Jokić and the Nuggets.

Jackson said he would understand if his vote is taken away in the future.

"Mistake. One thing I live by, you make a mistake, you own it. I'm not a guy that does it for clicks or to be trending. Absolute mistake made by me. I am thinking, how did I make that mistake? You can tell, I put one center, two forwards and two guards, so I wasn't even thinking. I apologize to the Denver Nuggets, I apologize to Nikola Jokić, who is not only in the MVP discussion and deserved to be on my ballot, but he's one of the greatest players in the history of this game. He's a top-10 center of all time.

"So, I own it. If you want to take away my vote or whatever, you're more than welcome. I made a mistake. I would have still voted for Joel Embiid the MVP, but with Giannis and Joker second and third. They deserve that, incredible year by him, he continues to make history. I own the mistake and I apologize."

He apologized again on Twitter, calling Jokić a legitimate MVP candidate and an all-time great.


Charles Barkley, and many others, blasted Nikola Jokić snubber without knowing it was Mark Jackson
Jackson's ballot was criticized as soon as NBA fans did the math last week, and one of the most forceful criticisms came from his broadcasting peer, fellow former NBA player Charles Barkley.

The longtime TNT commentator unloaded on the Jokić snubber during a segment on "Inside the NBA" on Monday:

"There's something that's been bothering me. Joel deserved the MVP and Joker and Giannis, they were 1-2-3, however you voted. There's one person — I don't even know this fool's name — didn't even have Joker in the top five. People like that shouldn't get a vote.

"For the last six months, we talked about Joker, Giannis and Embiid. If you have a television, or you actually watch basketball, if you don't think he should have been in the top five, you don't deserve a vote. You could be like some of these fools we be letting vote for president out here ... He's a damn idiot."

It should be said, if a person legitimately doesn't think a player wasn't one of the five most valuable players in the NBA during a season, they should be within their rights to leave him off their ballot. But that's clearly not what happened here.

ESPN analyst Mark Jackson looks on prior to the game between the Boston Celtics and Philadelphia 76ers at the Wells Fargo Center on February 25, 2023 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Celtics defeated the 76ers 110-107. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images)
Mark Jackson had some explaining to do. (Photo by Mitchell Leff/Getty Images)
As Barkley and, later, Jackson argued, you would have to keep your head in the sand for a long time to conclude Jokić shouldn't be on an MVP ballot at all. He averaged nearly a triple-double, with 24.5 points, 11.8 rebounds and 9.8 assists per game, while shooting a career-high 63.2% and leading his team to a 53-29 record, best in the Western Conference.

Emiid winning mvp was just as lol. 

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On 5/14/2023 at 5:51 PM, Matt39 said:

Emiid winning mvp was just as lol. 

Looks like I'm back to hating Jackson lol. Never really liked him going back to his playing days, but with JVG and Breen I softened a little.

If they don't fire his ass gonna have to mute the bitch on any game I might watch

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1 hour ago, HessStation said:

I don’t know why it’s so hard for LeBron fanboys to deal with him being an all time top 10 player with about 9 players being better than him. *shrugs 

 

he was great


Tim Duncan and Kobe each finishing with more rings than LeBron is delicious.  

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On 5/22/2023 at 11:58 PM, HessStation said:

I don’t know why it’s so hard for LeBron fanboys to deal with him being an all time top 10 player with about 9 players being better than him. *shrugs 

 

he was great

 

On 5/23/2023 at 1:18 AM, Jetsfan80 said:


Tim Duncan and Kobe each finishing with more rings than LeBron is delicious.  

I was actually shocked to see him give 100% effort in game 4.  Typically he's totally quit at that point and more focused on busy being a whiny bitch.

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