Elijah moore requests trade (merged)

[Rangers9]

I think we have a good chance vs Denver esp if Russell Wilson doesn't play with or without Moore. 

[Dunnie]

Is this an early April fool's joke ? Is he being serious ????

Jamal part deux ?

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[T0mShane]

Just now, slimjasi said:

I don’t think he sucks, I just don’t think he’s done anywhere near enough for this team to have to deal with this sort of distraction during their longest winning streak in 3 years. 
 

this is the sort of thing you MIGHT put up with for a star player. Not for a guy with some nice potential, IMO

Yeah, sure. Agreed. Like I said at the start of the thread, Garrett Wilson is a better player, they’re not going to be a passing team anyway, may as well get what you can and move on.

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

All those Ole Miss receivers are loons. They can all play, though

Have we seen anything from Moore that indicates this? He runs routes like he's got the crab.

[Jet Nut]

24 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

How do you know what Moore’s issue is? Connor Hughes? Hughes posted this afternoon that Moore absolutely, positively didn’t want a trade and that he was going home to chill out. Hughes has been in the woods on this story all day.

He wants the ball more.  Did you miss this in the middle of all of this.  WTF does Hughes have to do with this?  You don’t like that Hughes reported a conversation he had with Moore when Moore was excited about Zach’s return?  Only like Hugh’s podcasts when you’re so happy to editorialize them into negative Jets reports?

So far you’ve blamed Saleh and the Jets from trying to void making the world learn how selfish and self centered Moore was today and then to blame Zach for Moores selfishness.  Two gems for you, blame the Jets and the QB who isn’t MW over the same issue

[tommyduhamelshouse]

I would trade his ass TONIGHT

we waited for 10+ years for team success and this guy acting like THIS?!??!?!?!

you gotta be ******* kidding me.

Get him OUT OF HERE.

[doitny]

1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

It’s crazy that you take one game as an indication of the 5 year future of this team. Grow up 

Moore didnt ask for a trade for nothing. he had a meeting with Saleh and then asked for one. put 2 and 2 together. 

Saleh must have told him something that made him believe were not going to be throwing it much. and Football guy told me in another tread that they want Zach to master the little things and by my understanding of it, they will used this whole year if need be. 

it could be till next year before we see "Air Zach" if ever

[Gastineau Lives]

4 minutes ago, August said:

We passed it less because we have a limited quarterback. 

So, we had the option to win by 35 but because Zach sucks we decided to only win by 17. That's an awesome piece of logic.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah, sure. Agreed. Like I said at the start of the thread, Garrett Wilson is a better player, they’re not going to be a passing team anyway, may as well get what you can and move on.

Only if I get what I want - otherwise I bench him and free Denzel 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

7 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

Obviously but if he’s only going to pass it 20 times a game because he struggles, that can get old quick with young hungry highly drafted WRs. That is literally all that I am saying. We will see what happens.

Do you watch the games?  The reason the Jets threw the ball 20 times was because 1) they didn't have to throw against a team that could not stop the run 2) the WRs were not getting open and 3) the game was nip and tuck for 3 quarters and it made (real - not fantasy) football sense to play defense and conservative offense. 

Expect a similar game this week against a bad offensive team with a good defense. The game Sunday is likely to be a low scoring slugfest.  

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

He wants the ball more.  Did you miss this in the middle of all of this.  WTFndoes Hughes have to do with this?  You don’t like that Hughes reported a conversation he had with Moore when Moore was excited about Zach’s return?  Only like Hugh’s podcasts when you’re so happy to editorialize them into negative Jets reports?  Sucks I guess.  

Hughes posted that Moore was allegedly expecting more opportunities when Zach came back (which makes ZERO sense, given their history together). 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

17 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think you guys who—all of a sudden—think Elijah Moore sucks and is a no-talent should keep those takes in the Drafts folder for a few weeks and see what happens if/when he gets traded. The only people who thinks Moore can’t play is Jets fans, and they developed that opinion this week.

Moore is a good player

Joe Douglas could get something decent for him if he wants to

[Jet Nut]

7 minutes ago, undertow said:

Bro we are 4-2 how are you gonna hate on the whole coaching staff like that?  I swear miserable Jets fans I bet you sit around every game and hope we lose.

This was your conclusion from that post?  Where did I hate on the staff?  I said if Moore has an issue it’s with how he was used, LaFleurs job.  I’ve also said, repeatedly it was the right coaching decision to run the ball down GBs throats given their struggles against the run.  
Get you head out of wherever it’s deeply implanted and read

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Have we seen anything from Moore that indicates this? He runs routes like he's got the crab.

He had a promising rookie season on an awful team. He tore up a good Dolphins defense last year with Flacco. Had some moments in the Steelers game. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Only if I get what I want - otherwise I bench him and free Denzel 

I think that’s a poor use of resources. When have we ever shelved a player and profited from it? Becton? Mims? These dudes die on the vine.

[doitny]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Only if I get what I want - otherwise I bench him and free Denzel 

great so we bench Moore and have Denzel hurt us by lining up in the wrong spot and getting penalties. 

how many LOS penalties did he have last year? 2 ...3   in like 10 plays for the whole year. i remeber a end zone penalty too. that guy is a mess. at least Moore wont cost us yards

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Had some moments in the Steelers game. 

With the worst QB ever? How?

[Creepy Lurker]

2 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Do you watch the games?  The reason the Jets threw the ball 20 times was because 1) they didn't have to throw against a team that could not stop the run 2) the WRs were not getting open and 3) the game was nip and tuck for 3 quarters and it made (real - not fantasy) football sense to play defense and conservative offense. 

Expect a similar game this week against a bad offensive team with a good defense. The game Sunday is likely to be a low scoring slugfest.  

That strategy makes sense and is obvious for that situation. That wasn’t my point at all. Everyone replying to me is focusing on the wrong part of what I said. I give up at this point haha.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

I think that’s a poor use of resources. When have we ever shelved a player and profited from it? Becton? Mims? These dudes die on the vine.

 

[HawkeyeJet]

32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

And why should Moore be cool with that?  He's in year 2 of a 4-year rookie deal.  None of this is going to be particularly helpful for him from a career advancement perspective.

I just don't really understand the strong reaction to this.  He's pissed and he should be.  The only thing he did wrong was make this frustration public.  

Yeah and that’s a pretty big “one thing”.  What he tweeted Sunday could have been the end of it.  Everyone gets the point, Moore gets to vent his frustration, time to move on.  Instead, he goes beyond doubling down and blows things out of proportion.  Being mad is one thing, this is several levels past being mad.

Christian Kirk just got paid a bajillion dollars this off-season for essentially having the same career trajectory Moore was on about 7 days ago.  

It’s clearly a maturity issue in my opinion.  I don’t think he’s necessarily a diva.  I just think he is “hurt” for a lack of a better way to put it and isn’t mature enough to deal with it in a constructive way.

[morny]

32 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Moore played in 11 games. Led the team in yards and receiving TDs with five. Four of those TDs came in non-Zach Wilson games

Being a little cute with numbers there, in all fairness. 

 

Moore was always gonna have more TDs with the non Wilson's, he didn't really get fully involved with offence until Wilson was injured (he even missed ZW one good early game). 

When Wilson returned, Moore was fit for two games with him, and Wilson targeted him 20 times (10 receptions), including for a TD pass and circa 120 yards Wilson. It was his most targeted two game spell.  

Also, worth pointing out that at least 2 of Moore's TD in those "4 without Wilson" were pure garbage time, stat padding exercises. 

Fwiw I think Moore is a very good young receiver, and I'm not sold on Wilson, jury's out. But you're just twisting stats to use it as a stick to bash Wilson with. 

If Moore was having private talks with the coaching staff and even disagreements but keeping it in-house, fair enough. But he has clearly taken a conscious decision to blow it all up in public, which is pretty galling when were doing this well. 

[Jets723]

There is NO defense of this bullsh*t.  It’s simply a selfish move 

[Jet Nut]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Hughes posted that Moore was allegedly expecting more opportunities when Zach came back (which makes ZERO sense, given their history together). 

Right, that’s what I said and you disregarded.  It makes ZERO sense because you think Moore has an issue with how him and Zach worked last season, also what Hughes said about their conversation.  LaFleur didn’t have Hall and this seasons running game, the issue is with LaFleur.  Moore selfish, he would rather have personal stats over wins.  Good for him, keep defending it

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

With the worst QB ever? How?

That’s how gifted he is.

[slimjasi]

1 minute ago, doitny said:

great so we bench Moore and have Denzel hurt us by lining up in the wrong spot and getting penalties. 

how many LOS penalties did he have last year? 2 ...3   in like 10 plays for the whole year. i remeber a end zone penalty too. that guy is a mess. at least Moore wont cost us yards

Well, If Mims still can’t line up right, we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. 

[undertow]

4 minutes ago, doitny said:

Moore didnt ask for a trade for nothing. he had a meeting with Saleh and then asked for one. put 2 and 2 together. 

Saleh must have told him something that made him believe were not going to be throwing it much. and Football guy told me in another tread that they want Zach to master the little things and by my understanding of it, they will used this whole year if need be. 

it could be till next year before we see "Air Zach" if ever

This makes a ton of sense.  If you also watch Lefluer's presser today he didn't seem all that sympathetic to Moore's complaints he just mentioned how all the other players are making sacrifices and contributing in other ways.  They have no plans on using him like a number 1 receiver so they might as well cut bait now.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, morny said:

Being a little cute with numbers there, in all fairness. 

 

Moore was always gonna have more TDs with the non Wilson's, he didn't really get fully involved with offence until Wilson was injured (he even missed ZW one good early game). 

When Wilson returned, Moore was fit for two games with him, and Wilson targeted him 20 times (10 receptions), including for a TD pass and circa 120 yards Wilson. It was his most targeted two game spell.  

Also, worth pointing out that at least 2 of Moore's TD in those "4 without Wilson" were pure garbage time, stat padding exercises. 

Fwiw I think Moore is a very good young receiver, and I'm not sold on Wilson, jury's out. But you're just twisting stats to use it as a stick to bash Wilson with. 

If Moore was having private talks with the coaching staff and even disagreements but keeping it in-house, fair enough. But he has clearly taken a conscious decision to blow it all up in public, which is pretty galling when were doing this well. 

Speaking of twisting stats, his one good game with Wilson last year was when he had six catches on 12 targets for 77 yards in a game the Jets got absolutely smashed in. 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Speaking of twisting stats, his one good game with Wilson last year was when he had six catches on 12 targets for 77 yards in a game the Jets got absolutely smashed in. 

And he was seen out celebrating after the game!  

Selfish diva! 

[65 Toss Power Trap]

2 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Well, If Mims still can’t line up right, we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. 

We already know he can't, among other things. But given Moore's attitude, bring in the Mimster, incorrect pre-snap alignment and messed up post-snap routes and all!

[slimjasi]

Just now, undertow said:

This makes a ton of sense.  If you also watch Lefluer's presser today he didn't seem all that sympathetic to Moore's complaints he just mentioned how all the other players are making sacrifices and contributing in other ways.  They have no plans on using him like a number 1 receiver so they might as well cut bait now.

Why would they use him as a number 1 WR? He is, at best, the second best WR on the roster . . . right? 

It seems like the offensive coordinator might have a point. 

we have to trade every WR who doesn’t get targeted as a #1? Lol, FOH 

[Reasonable Jets Fan]

When Moore has been targeted he has dropped the ball many times and caused ints by dogging it... So now he deserves a trade because of a 'bad' qb that on a team that leads the nfl in dropped passes and this is on Zach.... You guys are so insane right now it's ridiculous 

[morny]

Looking at his stats this year with Wilson, he had his highest yardage of the year against the Steelers. And he was targeted joint most against Dolphins - only four times but that's because we basically ran the ball down their throats. 

He isn't getting peppered with targets like he was backend of last year (also with ZW) because then it was only him, and now it's him, and GW, and Davis, and Hall, and Conklin. And because of Hall, and beefed up oline, we are running more. 

So his target share has fell off because we have more good pass catchers, and a different scheme. This idea we're ignoring him his barmy. 

[undertow]

1 minute ago, slimjasi said:

Why would they use him as a number 1 WR? He is, at best, the second best WR on the roster . . . right? 

It seems like the offensive coordinator might have a point. 

we have to trade every WR who doesn’t get targeted as a #1? Lol, FOH 

I'm not saying the staff is wrong I'm saying Moore views himself as a Justin Jefferson type receiver and if your plans as an offense isn't to feature these guys drafted at the top of the draft stop drafting WRs at the top of the draft.  Also if a player is complaining under these circumstances it's never gonna stop. 

[yvj]

The fact that Moore couldn't wait for the season to play out makes me think he is very selfish. You gotta have Durant or Irving talent for me to root for selfish. 

[FidelioJet]

Zach Wilson should demand a trade.  The way he's being used is disgraceful. If I were him I would want out.

1. Team didn't allow him to come back from injury early.  He said he was ready to play but the team wanted him to be "110%" and missed games and stats
2. Comes in week 4, throws for over 250 yards - carries the team on his back to a big win against the Pittsburg Steelers. 
3. But in his Second week back - even though he carried the team the week prior -  they only threw the ball 21 times and chose to run - even though he had a 66% completion.
4. Week 6, they only let him throw the 18 times.  Even though they were up 2 TD's they didn't even throw the ball once in the 4th quarter.  Cost him a full quarter of stats when he's been averaging 80 yards in the 4th quarter this year.
5. He's playing with a makeshift OL that can't gives up immense pressure
6. Team leads the league in drops, by far....

Seriously, he should go to ML and demand a trade to a team that's going to do what's in his best interest and ONLY his best interest.