HighPitch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, fullblast said: LOL how misleading. yea he said he loves his team mates and then went on to say he was unhappy. dude is taking this way out of context. Must have learned this behavior from our resident vultures on this site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyduhamelshouse Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Moore not playing this week is a good move by the jets. Can't let clowns run the show especially ones that haven't been the reason why we're winning. i would bench him for this week AT LEAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, HighPitch said: how misleading. yea he said he loves his team mates and then went on to say he was unhappy. dude is taking this way out of context. Must have learned this behavior from our resident vultures on this site! Yeah, I realized after the fact that Moore scrubbed everything from the past week off of his feed. This was definitely taken out of context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, DeerPark said: unfortunately moore is an undersized receiver with average speed. He runs a 4.35 with a 6.67 three-cone. You guys are losing your minds. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 so is mims playing sunday? Has this been confirmed????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, fullblast said: Yeah, I realized after the fact that Moore scrubbed everything from the past week off of his feed. This was definitely taken out of context. No its wasnt your post ..........................it was ustadium whatever that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, HighPitch said: so is mims playing sunday? Has this been confirmed????? It seems it has indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Imagine mims turns out to be a good player. what a stroke of luck that would be. moore is already proven to NOT be a bust. I'd say he has a lot of value right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 could JD fleece GB for a 1st? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I hope Garrett Wilson wins the Pepsi zero sugar rookie of the week award this week 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Zippy back to throw Zippy looking deep Zippy down the sidelines for Mimsy... And......HE'S GOT IT! TOUCHDOWN!!! TOUCHDOWN!!! TOUCHDOWN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said: could JD fleece GB for a 1st? Take any teams 1st and run. I’m down with another year of double 1’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I guess where we disagree (and @slats can get in on this) is that I think a person can do something dumb that inevitably serves a selfish need, without being categorically “selfish”. The latter being a designation for athletes across many sports, and something that typically carries a stigma… many posters are lumping Elijah into that category after one incident (then using the dig pee thing as “evidence of a history”). I don’t think it’s rational, fair or accurate. If he doesn’t want to be labeled selfish in the future, he’s now going to have to earn that. He’s a second year, promising player; not a star yet. He’s trying to wield leverage that he simply doesn’t have. I really have a difficult time getting over the fact that he doesn’t have people in his life who could’ve explained to him just how bad a look it is to ask for a trade at this time in his and his team’s situation. Football’s the ultimate team game, and players have to put the team first. That’s part of the culture change that Saleh’s trying to implement here, and Moore’s chosen to defy it for what can only be considered selfish reasons. Reading now that Moore is back with the team, but that he’s excused from meetings and working on his own and will not dress this week. Good. He should be disciplined for this behavior. He needs to understand his role and also that his time will come. The Jets certainly aren’t playing with a lead the rest of the year. He’ll get his opportunities as long as his head’s right. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Technically, they DID get as much as they could out of the Mark Sanchez era. The problem isn't the approach. The problem is when the QB sucks and the only thing you can do is hide him. And then a bigger problem ensues when you double down on that QB (I.E. when Tannenbaum handed him a contract extension for no good reason). The team actually started falling apart when Rex wanted to open up the offense and got away from ground a pound and started acquiring players like Burress, Mason and Holmes. I think the team could have squeezed a few more good years out of Sanchez if they stuck with the initial plan. I think they could have won a SB that way in 2011 or 2012 but I don't think that works in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 F Elijah Moore but it's become even more clear to me that the problem is Zach Wilson. He still hasn't proven he can be productive. Garrett Wilson has 6 catches the last 3 games when he was balling out with Flacco at the helm. I get it we are winning so as a fan base we should be happy. At the same time, we are going to need games where Zach Wilson can throw the ball down the field consistently. 572 yards with 1TD and 2 picks in 3 games is not going to cut it even in a run oriented offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJetsFan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 And this is why you don't throw Mims away. S*it happens with WRs (and all players/positions) and having depth to keep the team moving forward is key. Now it's up to Mims to prove the Jets were right for keeping him and wrong for not giving him a shot. He's not going to get 10 targets this week but if I see him light up a DB or LB (or 2) on some running plays (without a stupid penalty), I'll know his head is on straight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, oatmeal said: Great now he can poison the locker with his antics GET THIS OVERRATED SCRUB TF OUT!!!! exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, slats said: I really have a difficult time getting over the fact that he doesn’t have people in his life who could’ve explained to him just how bad a look it is to ask for a trade at this time in his and his team’s situation. This is where I would love to see a teammate step in. Ideally a vet at the same postiion like Corey Davis. A 5th overall pick, who struggled early in his career and probably went through some of the same things Moore is going through now. May be a good time for Davis to step up as a team leader and help Moore through this, and help the team at the same time. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BallinPB said: F Elijah Moore but it's become even more clear to me that the problem is Zach Wilson. He still hasn't proven he can be productive. Garrett Wilson has 6 catches the last 3 games when he was balling out with Flacco at the helm. I get it we are winning so as a fan base we should be happy. At the same time, we are going to need games where Zach Wilson can throw the ball down the field consistently. 572 yards with 1TD and 2 picks in 3 games is not going to cut it even in a run oriented offense. ? ask Corey Davis and breece halls if Wilson is a problem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He runs a 4.35 with a 6.67 three-cone. You guys are losing your minds. jamal ran 4.3 at his pro day too.. u aint never acknowledge that lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, slats said: If he doesn’t want to be labeled selfish in the future, he’s now going to have to earn that. He’s a second year, promising player; not a star yet. He’s trying to wield leverage that he simply doesn’t have. I really have a difficult time getting over the fact that he doesn’t have people in his life who could’ve explained to him just how bad a look it is to ask for a trade at this time in his and his team’s situation. Football’s the ultimate team game, and players have to put the team first. That’s part of the culture change that Saleh’s trying to implement here, and Moore’s chosen to defy it for what can only be considered selfish reasons. Reading now that Moore is back with the team, but that he’s excused from meetings and working on his own and will not dress this week. Good. He should be disciplined for this behavior. He needs to understand his role and also that his time will come. The Jets certainly aren’t playing with a lead the rest of the year. He’ll get his opportunities as long as his head’s right. He does. His buddy AJ Brown, who's probably pushing him to ask for a trade because it worked out so well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BallinPB said: F Elijah Moore but it's become even more clear to me that the problem is Zach Wilson. He still hasn't proven he can be productive. Garrett Wilson has 6 catches the last 3 games when he was balling out with Flacco at the helm. I get it we are winning so as a fan base we should be happy. At the same time, we are going to need games where Zach Wilson can throw the ball down the field consistently. 572 yards with 1TD and 2 picks in 3 games is not going to cut it even in a run oriented offense. We were playing from behind and throwing 50 times a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: The data literally show that’s he’s open more often. It has nothing to do with how big he is, and some of the most productive WRs in the history of the league have been small. What you’re doing is making up a reason why the guy who gets open isn’t making catches - so Zach isn’t to blame. Problem is, if you contrast his routes run (high), openness (high), with his target rate (low), it’s obvious it’s about the decisions the QB is making. Not his size. So yes, easily the dumbest take. As usual. The one thing I'll say is that Elijah Moore's role in the offense is as the primary X and most of his routes are downfield. He's running a crazy amount of "go" routes and deep outs that are designed to pull the safety in order to open up the middle/flat portions of the field, and while he is getting open, the plays aren't designed to award him the time to "win" his route. Mike LaFleur sees it as "Elijah is our biggest threat at the X, and while he's just as good if not better at the Y/Z as Garrett Wilson/Braxton Berrios/Corey Davis, we're a better unit if those guys play those positions and Elijah plays the X". Defenses are forced to respect his speed, so he even though he's the first read (call it a glance) on a lot of plays, he inevitably becomes a decoy on the majority of them unless there's pure one-on-one or if there's a coverage breakdown because the passing scheme calls for quick route progression. He knows this and word was he was excited for Zach to come back because he felt his improvisational style would've resulted in more opportunities, but to our surprise Zach has learned to play more consistently within the offense. Combine that with game script and the rushing attack, those opportunities become even more limited. So its not to say I don't understand his frustration (I do), I just can't get behind a narcissistic, me-first player like this. The right thing for him to do would've been to go to his coaches and request more opportunities, whether it be designed plays or more of a receiver rotation so that he can get some opportunities to make plays after-the-catch from the Y or Z spots like he did last year. Instead, he made it about him, pouted, and requests a trade in the middle of a week when the team is preparing to go on the road in Denver coming off a winning streak. Unforgiveable sin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: The data literally show that’s he’s open more often. It has nothing to do with how big he is, and some of the most productive WRs in the history of the league have been small. What you’re doing is making up a reason why the guy who gets open isn’t making catches - so Zach isn’t to blame. Problem is, if you contrast his routes run (high), openness (high), with his target rate (low), it’s obvious it’s about the decisions the QB is making. Not his size. So yes, easily the dumbest take. As usual. In all seriousness, I’ve decided to put you on ignore. So forgive me if I no longer respond. I’ve never done this before and you’re one only one. , but I find you so condescending and self righteous that it makes me not want to be on this site. And I like it here it’s probably just me though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, slats said: If he doesn’t want to be labeled selfish in the future, he’s now going to have to earn that. He’s a second year, promising player; not a star yet. He’s trying to wield leverage that he simply doesn’t have. I really have a difficult time getting over the fact that he doesn’t have people in his life who could’ve explained to him just how bad a look it is to ask for a trade at this time in his and his team’s situation. Football’s the ultimate team game, and players have to put the team first. That’s part of the culture change that Saleh’s trying to implement here, and Moore’s chosen to defy it for what can only be considered selfish reasons. Reading now that Moore is back with the team, but that he’s excused from meetings and working on his own and will not dress this week. Good. He should be disciplined for this behavior. He needs to understand his role and also that his time will come. The Jets certainly aren’t playing with a lead the rest of the year. He’ll get his opportunities as long as his head’s right. Garrett should just clean up the drops lately. He would have better numbers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Becton siding with Moore and Sauce siding with the team, get this clown out of here it’s already dividing the locker room 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: could JD fleece GB for a 1st? Mabye GB trades for both DJ and Elijah and they "Have two". They are Two sides to every story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Scoop24 said: jamal ran 4.3 at his pro day too.. u aint never acknowledge that lol. Jamal ran a 4.54 at the Combine. The 4.3 was on LSU’s 39-yard track. Moore’s 40 was legit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I guess where we disagree (and @slats can get in on this) is that I think a person can do something dumb that inevitably serves a selfish need, without being categorically “selfish”. The latter being a designation for athletes across many sports, and something that typically carries a stigma… many posters are lumping Elijah into that category after one incident (then using the dig pee thing as “evidence of a history”). I don’t think it’s rational, fair or accurate. I think you're right. My gut feeling is Moore went over the line with Lefleur and it went beyond he wants more touches and selfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Wow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, oatmeal said: Becton siding with Moore and Sauce siding with the team, get this clown out of here it’s already dividing the locker room Bookmarking this for when Sauce holds out in 2024 and gets flamed by 98% of Real Jets Fan Nation 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Jamal ran a 4.54 at the Combine. The 4.3 was on LSU’s 39-yard track. Moore’s 40 was legit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Moore not playing on Sunday. Good very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: Becton siding with Moore and Sauce siding with the team, get this clown out of here it’s already dividing the locker room Sauce is already a leader on this team. He just owned Elijah with this tweet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, oatmeal said: Becton siding with Moore and Sauce siding with the team, get this clown out of here it’s already dividing the locker room This guy knows humility! This guy empaths! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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