Untouchable Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'm just reading tea leaves here but something doesn't smell right. Elijah’s menstruating snizz 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Elijah’s menstruating snizz 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Paradis said: Is it tho? he spent time there this summer and knows the players and knows the sport. Frankly I don’t know is better suited to add commentary. Media? Yea right. Current coaches? ..like you’ll get an honest take from them or anyone else in the building. I get that Moore is being juvenile but you’ll never convince me this “theme” exists entirely on the egos of the players. frankly, this whole thing is overblown nonsense. But this place and the NFL Media, particularly from NY, love the drama. It wouldn't surprise me if the Jones to Kraft "don't f*kc with me" was staged. Moore behaves like an immature child, probably without any notice to or from his agent, and here's the result. The only way he gets traded is if he continues his tantrums or some team offers us a 2nd or better, unlikely, but stranger things have happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dcat said: frankly, this whole thing is overblown nonsense. But this place and the NFL Media, particularly from NY, love the drama. It wouldn't surprise me if the Jones to Kraft "don't f*kc with me" was staged. Moore behaves like an immature child, probably without any notice to or from his agent, and here's the result. The only way he gets traded is if he continues his tantrums or some team offers us a 2nd or better, unlikely, but stranger things have happened. Is it overblown nonsense and the fans and medias fault or is Moore an immature child throwing tantrums? Gotta make up your mind champ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, undertow said: Is it overblown nonsense and the fans and medias fault or is Moore an immature child throwing tantrums? Gotta make up your mind champ. He is an immature child throwing a tantrum. He needs to grow up. And it is also way overblown. This isn't the first time an NFL young player throws a tantrum and it won't be the last. It all depends on how he reacts to the situation. But thanks for the false dichotomy... they are always fun. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Dcat said: He is an immature child throwing a tantrum. He needs to grow up. And it is also way overblown. This isn't the first time an NFL young player throws a tantrum and it won't be the last. It all depends on how he reacts to the situation. But thanks for the false dichotomy... they are always fun. Name me a similar situation to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Again bizarre benching a guy who complained and replacing him with a different complainer. But we’ve heard little from Mims recently so maybe that earned him being activated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: 1) Elijah thinks he's WR1 after last year. 2) Jets rumored to want to trade for college buddy AJ Brown 3) Jets decided not to trade and take Garrett Wilson. We then learn that #10 would have gotten Brown to NY based on Eagles trade 4) Moore upset he doesn't get to play with his buddy 5) Seeks out Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye 3 weeks after the draft to have dinner together. I'm just reading tea leaves here but something doesn't smell right. Don’t forget the jets nearly got tyreke hill. They have been really trying to upgrade the wrs, and plus they signed 2 TEs in FA and drafted ruckert. The jets were never going to use moore the way he wants to be used. They resigned berrios and drafted hall too. 49ers east. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Name me a similar situation to this Yes, Elijah Moore is the first NFL player in the history of the league to demand a trade with years remaining on his contract. An amazing precedent never seen before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Dcat said: Yes, Elijah Moore is the first NFL player in the history of the league to demand a trade with years remaining on his contract. An amazing precedent never seen before. Name me a parallel situation if it happens so often 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Name me a parallel situation if it happens so often Kadarius toney? to be fair not sure if he requested a trade as I know the giants stated they would look to but it does come to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Trotter said: Kadarius toney? to be fair not sure if he requested a trade as I know the giants stated they would look to but it does come to mind He never requested a trade and has been injured, no similarity at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said: How does playing a malcontent who dogs routes causing interceptions help anyone? How about getting him to play better and not dog routes etc. you know, coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, undertow said: Is it overblown nonsense and the fans and medias fault or is Moore an immature child throwing tantrums? Gotta make up your mind champ. Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Xtina said: How about getting him to play better and not dog routes etc. you know, coaching Can’t coach effort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jetluv58 said: Both Yeah I don't understand why people are talking about this or writing articles on the topic.....makes no sense to me I can't figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dcat said: frankly, this whole thing is overblown nonsense. But this place and the NFL Media, particularly from NY, love the drama. It wouldn't surprise me if the Jones to Kraft "don't f*kc with me" was staged. Moore behaves like an immature child, probably without any notice to or from his agent, and here's the result. The only way he gets traded is if he continues his tantrums or some team offers us a 2nd or better, unlikely, but stranger things have happened. Wouldn’t dispute any of that. But here’s the rub. Younger players have never been more me-centered, money focused — and — the stage has never been brighter and contracts never more lucrative So, it is what it is. Learn how to manage that reality or perish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, undertow said: Yeah I don't understand why people are talking about this or writing articles on the topic.....makes no sense to me I can't figure it out. there's talking about it and reporting on it. And then there's overdramatizing it and blowing it up way out of proportion. I lean towards the former. You're a proponent for the latter. Leave it at that. No point in continuing this back and forth. This forum is drama queen city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Damn 39 pages in… impressive Is this a JN record for the time it took to reach this many pages????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Paradis said: Wouldn’t dispute any of that. But here’s the rub. Younger players have never been more me-centered, money focused — and — the stage has never been brighter and contracts never more lucrative So, it is what it is. Learn how to manage that reality or perish. Agree wholeheartedly. Its not just athletes. You can see it in the workforce with this particular age group. I'm talking pre-covid. Its the me-first generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: Again bizarre benching a guy who complained and replacing him with a different complainer. But we’ve heard little from Mims recently so maybe that earned him being activated. Mimsy didnt complain. He asked to be traded so he can suit up on gameday. Jets said no and mims shut his mouth and continued to work. Moore asked for more targets, was told no and went after his OC. Not even compareable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Mimsy didnt complain. He asked to be traded so he can suit up on gameday. Jets said no and mims shut his mouth and continued to work. Moore asked for more targets, was told no and went after his OC. Not even compareable. I just hope we don’t keep him around all he will do in time is poison the well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, oatmeal said: I just hope we don’t keep him around all he will do in time is poison the well Im not there yet. If we can het a haul for him, sure. But Im willing to give him a 2nd chance if he can keep his mouth shut and work. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: there's talking about it and reporting on it. And then there's overdramatizing it and blowing it up way out of proportion. I lean towards the former. You're a proponent for the latter. Leave it at that. No point in continuing this back and forth. This forum is drama queen city. A disgruntled player is hardly a reason for a forum meltdown, but no one is surprised to see it happen anyway. Ultimately I won’t lose any sleep over Elijah, and clearly his a immaturity is driving this… But it would be a lot easier to dismiss the whole thing altogether if our passing game had some consistency over the last couple years. It would be easier to draw conclusions with less peaks/valleys from week to week. But the fact that passing has been inconsistent, and he has had splashes of success leaves the door open just a crack. Just enough to invite public divisiveness. And the fact this happened with Mims a year ago just throws little extra gasoline on it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dcat said: Agree wholeheartedly. Its not just athletes. You can see it in the workforce with this particular age group. I'm talking pre-covid. Its the me-first generation. Dude. I work as an Employee Relations specialist for a company of 20k staff. Translation I spend all day dealing with onerous staff who feel victimized by anything from bad weather to perfume. I agree 10000%. But as I tell my directors and Leaders - you can’t change that, but you can learn to manage it - and therefore control it. Same responsibility lies on every GM’s lap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers12 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: Dude. I work as an Employee Relations specialist for a company of 20k staff. Translation I spend all day dealing with onerous staff who feel victimized by anything from bad weather to perfume. I agree 10000%. But as I tell my directors and Leaders - you can’t change that, but you can learn to manage it - and therefore control it. Same responsibility lies on every GM’s lap. Will the Jets be this years Bengals? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Many wanted Mimsy traded, now we need him. Its a long season and depth is important. This team is ready to compete now. The more I think about, Im not sure Douglas is even picking up the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Packers12 said: Will the Jets be this years Bengals? If Zach Wilson can suddenly start playing like Joey B, sure. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers12 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Paradis said: If Zach Wilson can suddenly start playing like Joey B, sure. Nothing but love for you guys. Last week at least we lost to a classy franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Paradis said: If Zach Wilson can suddenly start playing like Joey B, sure. He doesnt need to play like burrow. This def and running game is better then what the bengals had. He can play like jimmy garrappolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 4:51 PM, Jetsfan80 said: Some of you are acting like Moore got 5 targets and he's pissed he didn't get 8. 0 targets and a dwindling snap count (90 % in Week 4; 66 % in Week 5; 58 % in Week 6) would make any highly-drafted WR justifiably pissed off. He got more targets in Week 3 than he's gotten SINCE. He was counted on quite a bit in 2021. None of you, in his shoes, would be cool with spending an entire Sunday jogging around and not getting to do the one task his job asks him to do. Yet here you all are turning on him with one tweet. Cretins. I'm with you. ODD. Oppositional Defiant Disorder. This forum is so predictable. I'll go on record to say Moore will have a great rest of the season. No question he handled the situation poorly, but we've all made bad decisions when we were 20-somethings. The kid just wants to contribute. Saleh will let him cool off this week, incorporate him more into the game plans going forward, and Moore will finish with respectable stats by years' end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Supersonic said: I'm with you. ODD. Oppositional Defiant Disorder. This forum is so predictable. I'll go on record to say Moore will have a great rest of the season. No question he handled the situation poorly, but we've all made bad decisions when we were 20-somethings. The kid just wants to contribute. Saleh will let him cool off this week, incorporate him more into the game plans going forward, and Moore will finish with respectable stats by years' end. I'll go on record Moore isn't active again until after the bye, and possibly all year Droppable in all formats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bitonti said: I'll go on record Moore isn't active again until after the bye, and possibly all year Droppable in all formats No one was in the room when Saleh and Moore spoke. You may be right. Or, it's not as big of an issue as everyone's making it out to be. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Supersonic said: No one was in the room when Saleh and Moore spoke. You may be right. Or, it's not as big of an issue as everyone's making it out to be. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds. There's this mims redemption arc that people are fantasizing about, like they are going to start throwing bombs to mims to rub it into Moores face I suspect they can't give Moore or mims what they want because the qb is too much of a risk of turning it over Mims is going to be out there blocking and being a decoy and maybe even kickoff coverage The coaches aren't irrational and neither is Moore They just can't give X the targets right now because they are protecting the qb with the run game Zach's "it makes my job easier" press conference didn't exactly help matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: There's this mims redemption arc that people are fantasizing about, like they are going to start throwing bombs to mims to rub it into Moores face I suspect they can't give Moore or mims what they want because the qb is too much of a risk of turning it over Mims is going to be out there blocking and being a decoy and maybe even kickoff coverage The coaches aren't irrational and neither is Moore They just can't give X the targets right now because they are protecting the qb with the run game Zach's "it makes my job easier" press conference didn't exactly help matters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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