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[neckdemon]

25 minutes ago, Warfish said:

What specifically was bad about his play today?

Fair enough.  

Did you watch the game? It's been the same thing since he came in the league

[Hex]

39 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

Saleh said that this D is very tough and other offenses (I would guess good ones) struggled to score - we scored the most against Denver in Denver and something like second most this year.

I think that's correct. That said, Zach made many bad decisions that he shouldn't have made, regardless (or especially) of the defense that was out there. 

That said, his bad decisions were not plentiful enough that they led to anything terrible. He made 2 or 3 throws that should have been INTs, and he got lucky with that fumble. It should have been a TD for Denver. Other than that he didn't really do much outside of that FG drive in the 4th quarter.

The rest of this team is what won this game.

[Hex]

25 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

Didn't they win 4 straight in 2015?

[Flightattendant]

Yeah it's pretty clear that Zack isn't the guy. If a deal comes up to trade or sign a QB Doug should jump on it. As well as investing some draft capital in the position.... Again lol.

[slimjasi]

6 minutes ago, Hex said:

Didn't they win 4 straight in 2015?

Yes 

they actually won 5 straight headed into Buffalo 

[Rangers9]

I saw posts about the refs today. The Jets had 11-85 and Denver 4-34. But before Jets fans complain too much about the zebras today. What about the penalties they didn’t call. There was at least one PI late in the game that could easily been called against Gardner. He was clutching the guys jersey in the end zone. That was one I think there was at least one more. 

[slimjasi]

7 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

I saw posts about the refs today. The Jets had 11-85 and Denver 4-34. But before Jets fans complain too much about the zebras today. What about the penalties they didn’t call. There was at least one PI late in the game that could easily been called against Gardner. He was clutching the guys jersey in the end zone. That was one I think there was at least one more. 

You see that sort of clutching on every other play 

he had good coverage and I like them swallowing the whistle there 

[Jetlife33]

 

[Jetlife33]

 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

We’re gonna need a new QB1 in 2023.  

That puts a bit of a damper on things for anyone who acknowledges the above statement to be true.

My apologies for thinking “big picture” despite the turnaround for the franchise otherwise.  I am excited about everything other than the QB.  But the latter is pretty important….  

This board is a schizophrenic cesspool. It’s tough to take and it sucks all the joy from Jets football. And it all comes from the same miserable people.  The past few seasons when the Jets stunk and those taking the long view wanted losses to improve draft position and build a winner, all we heard from the negative crowd was that that rooting for losses to improve draft position is bad. All that matters is wins and building a winning culture.

in the off-season and preseason, when many of us wanted to play Wilson all season to see what we had at QB, we heard from the negative crowd that they were sick of losing and wanted a competitive team this season . In fact, all they wanted was to play meaningful games and be entertained, like their favorite season, 2015. They wanted Flacco as the QB. 
 

Now we built a team through the draft and are winning and are in the playoff hunt and it’s not good enough for the negative crowd. They suddenly don’t care about wins and now want style points from the team in general and from the QB in particular. Now they care about the future and are suddenly convinced Wilson can’t be the long term answer. 
 

It’s pretty sick how the only thing that matters to them is to be right about their opinions about Wilson and nothing else matters. I am thrilled to be 5-2. I am upset over on,y one thing- the injuries.  Wilson is not turning the ball over. He’s not losing games against very good defenses - on the road. 

[bostonmajet]

50 minutes ago, Hex said:

I think that's correct. That said, Zach made many bad decisions that he shouldn't have made, regardless (or especially) of the defense that was out there. 

That said, his bad decisions were not plentiful enough that they led to anything terrible. He made 2 or 3 throws that should have been INTs, and he got lucky with that fumble. It should have been a TD for Denver. Other than that he didn't really do much outside of that FG drive in the 4th quarter.

The rest of this team is what won this game.

yeah, I haven't had a chance to watch the game, but judging from the reactions to the game thread he didn't complete a single pass, fumbled four times, threw 6 INTs, ran up and jumped on Hall's leg and then proceeded to kick puppies. I am guessing it wasn't that bad, but I shall see...

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

This board is a schizophrenic cesspool. It’s tough to take and it sucks all the joy from Jets football. And it all comes from the same miserable people.  The past few seasons when the Jets stunk and those taking the long view wanted losses to improve draft position and build a winner, all we heard from the negative crowd was that that rooting for losses to improve draft position is bad. All that matters is wins and building a winning culture.

in the off-season and preseason, when many of us wanted to play Wilson all season to see what we had at QB, we heard from the negative crowd that they were sick of losing and wanted a competitive team this season . In fact, all they wanted was to play meaningful games and be entertained, like their favorite season, 2015. They wanted Flacco as the QB. 
 

Now we built a team through the draft and are winning and are in the playoff hunt and it’s not good enough for the negative crowd. They suddenly don’t care about wins and now want style points from the team in general and from the QB in particular. Now they care about the future and are suddenly convinced Wilson can’t be the long term answer. 
 

It’s pretty sick how the only thing that matters to them is to be right about their opinions about Wilson and nothing else matters. I am thrilled to be 5-2. I am upset over on,y one thing- the injuries.  Wilson is not turning the ball over. He’s not losing games against very good defenses - on the road. 

 

Who's being "schizophrenic" here (though I'm guessing you meant Bi-Polar)?  For months I've been saying the same 2 things:  1) Joe Douglas is a quality GM who has been steadily building a very nice roster; and 2) Zach Wilson sucks.

Both of those things have been proven correct over the course of this season.  It's great that we have a solid team here.  It sucks that the QB is going to hold us back.  Shades of 2009-2010 all over again.  Which, I acknowledge, was one of the last times it was fun to be a fan of this godforsaken franchise.  

The key is this:  2023 needs to come with a new QB1 option.  And here's the good news:  This is going to be a pretty attractive place for veteran QB's should we go that route.

[Jets723]

4 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

This board is a schizophrenic cesspool. It’s tough to take and it sucks all the joy from Jets football. And it all comes from the same miserable people.  The past few seasons when the Jets stunk and those taking the long view wanted losses to improve draft position and build a winner, all we heard from the negative crowd was that that rooting for losses to improve draft position is bad. All that matters is wins and building a winning culture.

in the off-season and preseason, when many of us wanted to play Wilson all season to see what we had at QB, we heard from the negative crowd that they were sick of losing and wanted a competitive team this season . In fact, all they wanted was to play meaningful games and be entertained, like their favorite season, 2015. They wanted Flacco as the QB. 
 

Now we built a team through the draft and are winning and are in the playoff hunt and it’s not good enough for the negative crowd. They suddenly don’t care about wins and now want style points from the team in general and from the QB in particular. Now they care about the future and are suddenly convinced Wilson can’t be the long term answer. 
 

It’s pretty sick how the only thing that matters to them is to be right about their opinions about Wilson and nothing else matters. I am thrilled to be 5-2. I am upset over on,y one thing- the injuries.  Wilson is not turning the ball over. He’s not losing games against very good defenses - on the road. 

[maury77]

1 hour ago, Jets723 said:

Well if you went back and looked at my posts today I clearly sad he was bad today.  I don’t like agendas or bullsh*t just being honest about what goes on 

You don't like agendas? You literally down vote every post where there is a criticism of Wilson. You have just as much of an agenda as the posters you like to criticize.

[Jets723]

3 minutes ago, maury77 said:

You don't like agendas? You literally down vote every post where there is a criticism of Wilson. You have just as much of an agenda as the posters you like to criticize.

Not true at all.  I literally said he was bad today 

[Flightattendant]

28 minutes ago, bostonmajet said:

yeah, I haven't had a chance to watch the game, but judging from the reactions to the game thread he didn't complete a single pass, fumbled four times, threw 6 INTs, ran up and jumped on Hall's leg and then proceeded to kick puppies. I am guessing it wasn't that bad, but I shall see...

I wanted Zack to be the guy so bad. 

 

It was that ugly today.

[greenwave81]

1 hour ago, slimjasi said:

You see that sort of clutching on every other play 

he had good coverage and I like them swallowing the whistle there 

**** off. They weren’t egregiously missed calls and every sport has penalty’s revert to the mean. they only seem to call the penalties when they mean something….and the 2:1 Jets disadvantage is usual. 

[Jetlife33]

 

[Mogglez]

Denzel Mims is a pro man.  Good on the young fella for truly growing.

[65 Toss Power Trap]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Denzel Mims is a pro man.  Good on the young fella for truly growing.

Huge props to him. I don't like him on the field. But total respect for how he has acted!!!

[Warfish]

3 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Denzel Mims is a pro man.  Good on the young fella for truly growing.

Never pegged you as naive.

[slimjasi]

9 minutes ago, greenwave81 said:

**** off. They weren’t egregiously missed calls and every sport has penalty’s revert to the mean. they only seem to call the penalties when they mean something….and the 2:1 Jets disadvantage is usual. 

What 

[Packers12]

Dolphins went for it up 16-10 on 4th and 3 from the Steelers 20 yard line and failed. What a bunch of morons, they could have gone up 2 possessions instead the Steelers are driving down the field the other way.

[Mogglez]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

Never pegged you as naive.

Wut?

[65 Toss Power Trap]

1 hour ago, Jetlife33 said:

 

Zach was worse than what Saleh laid out. But swinging the pendulum too far is crazy town. 

[Warfish]

46 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

This board is a schizophrenic cesspool. It’s tough to take and it sucks all the joy from Jets football.

Then why do you come here?

Why do you let other peoples opinions effect you so deeply that it "sucks the joy" from you?

Seems odd that you come to a community you so clearly hold in low regard.

 

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, 65 Toss Power Trap said:

Zach was worse than what Saleh laid out. But swinging the pendulum too far is crazy town. 

He completed 60% against the #1 defense in heavy winds with half his offense on the bench. He wasn’t nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. 

[Warfish]

1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Wut?

Never pegged you as dumb either.

[Paradis]

Tua is currently the antithesis to Zach and Geno is balling hard with a left-for-dead team on his shoulders. 

imagine reading that 4 months ago.  

[Mogglez]

7 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Never pegged you as dumb either.

What is this unwarranted nonsense for?  I just posted a tweet and said I was happy that Mims seems to have bought in.  What is your problem?

[65 Toss Power Trap]

Just now, SuicidalSince98 said:

He completed 60% against the #1 defense in heavy winds with half his offense on the bench. He wasn’t nearly as bad as some are making it out to be. 

This. I feel like we're in trouble for stating facts though. Like we should be embarrassed for taking a reasonable look at Wilson.

[maury77]

2 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Tua is currently the antithesis to Zach and Geno is balling hard with a left-for-dead team on his shoulders. 

imagine reading that 4 months ago.  

Geno's a free agent next year .....

[Jimmy 2 Times]

The plan was always to have the team carry Zach the first season or two, I just wish he was playing better.

It's discouraging and disappointing.

Hard to complain about a win, especially with our history, but here I am.

 

Ungrateful and human. 

[sciond]

2 hours ago, RevisIsland610 said:

Not because of him. He stunk. 

Did he lose us the game. I have too many of those type games to count

 

[Warfish]

5 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

Tf is this sh*t for?  I just posted a tweet and said I was happy that Mims seems to have bought in.  What is your problem?

Neg-repped for saying I didn't think you were naive or dumb, that's a new one.  

Mims is saying what his agent tells him to say, nothing more.  He hasn't bought into anything, he still wants to be traded.  If he didn't, his answer would have been very different to that agent-speak hot air.