After today, do we scale back a little on the Elijah Moore hate?

[Joe W. Namath]

Now I am not justifying what he did and it was unacceptable, but watching our passing game today, did anyone think to themselves, "Ok, I get what Elijah is upset about".  Lets be honest, this is the worst passing offense in the league and looks to be getting worse by the game.

[SuicidalSince98]

We  played the #1 d in heavy winds with half the offense on the bench. It was bad, yes, but we’ve all seen a whole heck of a lot worse the last 20 years 

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, SuicidalSince98 said:

We  played the #1 d in heavy winds with half the offense on the bench. It was bad, yes, but we’ve all seen a whole heck of a lot worse the last 20 years 

Ok, so you see this improving next week w/ Bellichek coming to town?

[Rhg1084]

Do we go begging to Elijah to come back for New England game now?

[PS17]

No. F him

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Ok, so you see this improving next week w/ Bellichek coming to town?

I think we have to say **** it and let it loose . The passing game is very conservative/tight in an effort to play through the run game and defense

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, SuicidalSince98 said:

I think we have to say **** it and let it loose . The passing game is very conservative/tight in an effort to play through the run game and defense

Ok, and when we "let it loose" you see it suddenly becoming successful?

I mean, if that is the case, wouldnt we be doing that already?

[Mogglez]

I don’t hate Elijah, but I’m extremely disappointed in him.

Being frustrated behind the scenes about your targets is one thing.  Making a spectacle out of it, blowing up in practice, and doing your best to derail a winning streak is unacceptable behavior.  Does he deserve vitriol at every corner?  No.  Does a struggling passing offense excuse his behavior or make me sympathetic to his actions?  Absolutely not.

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, Joe W. Namath said:

Ok, and when we "let it loose" you see it suddenly becoming successful?

I mean, if that is the case, wouldnt we be doing that already?

I hope it looks like the 4th Q vs Pittsburgh. 

[Jetsfan80]

@Gastineau Lives @FidelioJet @Hal N of Provo when you’ve lost Joe you’ve lost the war.

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, SuicidalSince98 said:

I hope it looks like the 4th Q vs Pittsburgh. 

Sunday will be a good indicator of where this team is going fo rthe rest of the year.  We dont have to win Sunday, we we have to be competant through the air.  If Zach cant throw for more then 200 yards a nd 2 tds, the outlook is not going to be good.

Breece hall was out floaties in the pool.  We are now going to either sink or swim.

[ryu79]

8 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now I am not justifying what he did and it was unacceptable, but watching our passing game today, did anyone think to themselves, "Ok, I get what Elijah is upset about".  Lets be honest, this is the worst passing offense in the league and looks to be getting worse by the game.

No. I thought - damn, it really sucks Elijah chose THIS week to knife his team in the back. We really could have used him out there once Davis couldn't play. 

[August]

I’ve already understood where Elijah was coming from. Yesterday’s game simply typified the reason why he wanted out. However I just didn’t like how he went about it. It’s water under the bridge now. MLF needs to figure out how to get Moore involved. He’s far too talented. 

[Jet2020]

If Corey is out, Elijah is starting. Mims is pure garbage. You’re not caving into his demands of a trade or higher involvement rate. You’re telling him he’s the next man up and he’s gonna do what the team needs him to do. So f*ck your ego and get on the f*cking field. 

[Green Ghost]

Yes, Moore asked for a trade but I think you guys are forgetting that it was the Jets who deactivated him for today’s game. Moore never asked out.

We won, so they got away with it. This week with Breece on the shelf, the CS is going to have to take a hard look at how they get not only Moore involved but Garrett Wilson also.

If it turns out they can’t, and the reason is a lack of confidence in, or the skill set of the QB, that’s a problem. Then they have to decide if they want to gamble on screwing up what looks like a top level playoff team trying to develop a kid who is most likely a lost cause, or make a change.

I’m not a believer in him, but I’m also not one of those who has been bouncing thread to thread bashing Zach Wilson this season. I’ve watched these WRs put up #’s with other QBs on this roster though. If Zach doesn’t start looking alive, how long can you stick with him?

Patience is one thing, but is it worth sabotaging this season trying to turn chicken sh*t into chicken salad?

[DJF71]

The QB is the problem.

[jetsons]

 

 

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[The Crusher]

54 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now I am not justifying what he did and it was unacceptable, but watching our passing game today, did anyone think to themselves, "Ok, I get what Elijah is upset about".  Lets be honest, this is the worst passing offense in the league and looks to be getting worse by the game.

So it’s not Mimsey  time anymore? 

[Beerfish]

It's totally up to Elijah Moore to see if he is hated or not.

[jetstream23]

52 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Ok, and when we "let it loose" you see it suddenly becoming successful?

I mean, if that is the case, wouldnt we be doing that already?

No reason to do it when the Jets are winning. And, when they did need it they turned it on in the 4th Q in Pittsburgh to win, right?

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

So it’s not Mimsey  time anymore? 

Earlier this week, when everyone (especially Joe W.) was suddenly singing the praises of “Mimsy”, I was one of the very few who wondered aloud how Moore asking to be traded suddenly turned a third year bust into a viable NFL player.

Narrater: He never got an answer.

[Green Ghost]

6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

No reason to do it when the Jets are winning. And, when they did need it they turned it on in the 4th Q in Pittsburgh to win, right?

Help me out here…

I’m amazed how many of the PVO guys here cling so tightly to that 4th quarter against Pittsburgh, yet they insist that Mike White’s game against Cincinnati meant nothing.

Why is that?

 

[jetstream23]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

Help me out here…

I’m amazed how many of the PVO guys here cling so tightly to that 4th quarter against Pittsburgh, yet they insist that Mike White’s game against Cincinnati meant nothing.

Why is that?

 

No idea. 

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now I am not justifying what he did and it was unacceptable, but watching our passing game today, did anyone think to themselves, "Ok, I get what Elijah is upset about".  Lets be honest, this is the worst passing offense in the league and looks to be getting worse by the game.

Saleh handled things very well with Eli. Praised his character publicly. Sat him out one game. Now they all move forward from here together.

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Help me out here…

I’m amazed how many of the PVO guys here cling so tightly to that 4th quarter against Pittsburgh, yet they insist that Mike White’s game against Cincinnati meant nothing.

Why is that?

Too much draft capital by the team and too much emotional investment by the fans into Zach Wilson?

[BurnleyJet]

It’s obvious a QB change is coming, the next two weeks will show this. We can’t throw for 100 yards every game and Win it’s not 1923. Full blown QB controversy after the Bills game as the season slips into total meltdown.

[Green Ghost]

3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Too much draft capital by the team and too much emotional investment by the fans into Zach Wilson?

I get what you’re saying, and I don’t disagree with the draft capital part, but I think the team has more emotional investment in Wilson than the fans do right now. 
Going by what I see here… there are a handful like @Jets723 @Hal N of Provo and maybe a few others who still believe in him, but I think the vast majority realize how bad he’s been. If he continues playing like this, I don’t see how they can justify running him out there again next year and convincing the fan base it’s the right thing to do.
 

 

[Green Ghost]

31 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Saleh handled things very well with Eli. Praised his character publicly. Sat him out one game. Now they all move forward from here together.

Max, I realize this thread is about Elijah, but let’s be honest here. He’s not the one fans are concerned about going forward with in this passing game.

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

I get what you’re saying, and I don’t disagree with the draft capital part, but I think the team has more emotional investment in Wilson than the fans do right now. 
Going by what I see here… there are a handful like @Jets723 @Hal N of Provo and maybe a few others who still believe in him, but I think the vast majority realize how bad he’s been. If he continues playing like this, I don’t see how they can justify running him out there again next year and convincing the fan base it’s the right thing to do.

True but Mike White was about a full calendar year ago.  There were a lot more people who believed in Zach just a few weeks ago than there are right now.  

[Smashmouth]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Now I am not justifying what he did and it was unacceptable, but watching our passing game today, did anyone think to themselves, "Ok, I get what Elijah is upset about".  Lets be honest, this is the worst passing offense in the league and looks to be getting worse by the game.

What's sad is we have the worst passing offense and if Zach continues to sh*t all over his bed and this team they would probably put in Joe Flacco rather than Mike White. 

[Smashmouth]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

True but Mike White was about a full calendar year ago.  There were a lot more people who believed in Zach just a few weeks ago than there are right now.  

With the Defense we have if Mike White runs the offense we have a chance. Watching Wilson throw for 100 yards a game, have no clue WTF is going on in the pocket is excruciating to watch at this point. Its also hard to watch him throw in front of the god damn first down marker by 5 yards over and over while we have players open 5 yards past the marker. 

[LIJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Green Ghost said:

Yes, Moore asked for a trade but I think you guys are forgetting that it was the Jets who deactivated him for today’s game. Moore never asked out.

We won, so they got away with it. This week with Breece on the shelf, the CS is going to have to take a hard look at how they get not only Moore involved but Garrett Wilson also.

If it turns out they can’t, and the reason is a lack of confidence in, or the skill set of the QB, that’s a problem. Then they have to decide if they want to gamble on screwing up what looks like a top level playoff team trying to develop a kid who is most likely a lost cause, or make a change.

I’m not a believer in him, but I’m also not one of those who has been bouncing thread to thread bashing Zach Wilson this season. I’ve watched these WRs put up #’s with other QBs on this roster though. If Zach doesn’t start looking alive, how long can you stick with him?

Patience is one thing, but is it worth sabotaging this season trying to turn chicken sh*t into chicken salad?

I think you are letting the Denver game overly influence your opinion of Zack.  Denver is the #1 pass defender in the league.  Most QB's will look bad.

Zack has looked like he'd been improving prior to this.  I'm just saying the jury is still out and at 5-2 in a 17 game season, the season is still young.           

[Maxman]

26 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Max, I realize this thread is about Elijah, but let’s be honest here. He’s not the one fans are concerned about going forward with in this passing game.

As far as I know, nobody said anything otherwise.

[oatmeal]

Wtf is wrong with some of you

Moore had a blowup at practice and was sent home to “think about it” and then he asked for a freaking trade

He don’t want to be here so why do you want him??????

[jgb]

Hell hath no fury like a Jet fan scorned