JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Yo this is bad, however you want to look at it Kapono starting to crack under the scrutiny Throwing his WRs and playcaller under the bus ? Dude still doesn’t understand what “open” means in the NFL vs college Nobody’s ever open so I figure why not throw it to the other team? I mean seriously? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, batman10023 said: With crappy field position. Outside one bad play on penalty they played good enough to win. They missed quite a few tackles on the Pats RB. Joyner in particular seemed to have a rough game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromthebrushwoodthicket Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: All you Mike White haters can eat sh*t. No room for you turds on the Mike White train. Me and @Smashmouth aren’t having it. LEAF MIKE WHITE ALONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Yo this is bad, however you want to look at it Kapono starting to crack under the scrutiny Throwing his WRs and playcaller under the bus ? Dude still doesn’t understand what “open” means in the NFL vs college Nobody’s ever open so I figure why not throw it to the other team? I mean seriously? Bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Zach wilson is the worst starting quarterback in the league It's that simple We go back and forth at each other like it's a debate or some kind of close call He's terrible. Always has been. Mike white played for a month his cleats are in canton It's not a meritocracy. The best player is not playing. Zach might be the 4th best qb on the roster that's the cold reality that everyone who isn't a Jets fan sees clearly Our starting QB play averages as 32 rank in the NFL, as per QB Rating (does not include today's game). Fields and MAC are right there as well. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/qb-rating-nfl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 This is Zach slowly turning and starting to blame the guys around him. About to get real ugly out here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 We've all seen this story before. He's not the answer, just hope the FO is not going to delude themselves into bringing him back next year without a real alternative 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 The Jets cannot consistently win with "game manager" Zach Wilson. The Jets cannot win with today's version of Zach Wilson. He is not enough of a true game manager like Alex Smith or Jimmy G. Verdict - Zach aint it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 I think the thing that is ultimately sinking Wilson is that in his DNA, he simply likes to be flashy. He just has an undying need to make the splash play. It literally even creeps in on things like throwaways not getting clear out of bounds. He is just soooo nonchalant. I don’t even think it’s an intellectual thing either. I think he often knows the play to make or the mechanics he should use, but when the bullets start flying he wants to do things with a certain aesthetic flair, and he thinks he can get away with it, or other dude’s won’t make plays. But he can’t. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I think the thing that is ultimately sinking Wilson is that in his DNA, he simply likes to be flashy. He just has an undying need to make the splash play. It literally even creeps in on things like throwaways not getting clear out of bounds. He is just soooo nonchalant. I don’t even think it’s an intellectual thing either. I think he often knows the play to make or the mechanics he should use, but when the bullets start flying he wants to do things with a certain aesthetic flair, and he thinks he can get away with it, or other dude’s won’t make plays. But he can’t. Yes. Even though they were winning with breece it’s not how HE wants to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Idk if there are any Zach wilson defenders in this thread.....but if so seek psychiatric help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I think the thing that is ultimately sinking Wilson is that in his DNA, he simply likes to be flashy. He just has an undying need to make the splash play. It literally even creeps in on things like throwaways not getting clear out of bounds. He is just soooo nonchalant. I don’t even think it’s an intellectual thing either. I think he often knows the play to make or the mechanics he should use, but when the bullets start flying he wants to do things with a certain aesthetic flair, and he thinks he can get away with it, or other dude’s won’t make plays. But he can’t. Feels like he hasn't made the mental jump from playing against Western Wyoming Community State and doesn't realize that the defense is full of pro athletes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, xJayce said: Our starting QB play averages as 32 rank in the NFL, as per QB Rating (does not include today's game). Fields and MAC are right there as well. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/qb-rating-nfl Fields had a productive, efficient day today vs one of the top defenses in the NFL And B2B games with 60+ yards and 1 TD on the ground 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I think the thing that is ultimately sinking Wilson is that in his DNA, he simply likes to be flashy. He just has an undying need to make the splash play. It literally even creeps in on things like throwaways not getting clear out of bounds. He is just soooo nonchalant. I don’t even think it’s an intellectual thing either. I think he often knows the play to make or the mechanics he should use, but when the bullets start flying he wants to do things with a certain aesthetic flair, and he thinks he can get away with it, or other dude’s won’t make plays. But he can’t. So true. And that won’t change. Which could end up costing him his job. I do think that’s why he was pissed in the presser. He’s thinking “I can escape these guys, just get open, don’t stop because your route is over”. Which I do think needs to be worked on by the WRs but that’s another story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: The Jets cannot consistently win with "game manager" Zach Wilson. The Jets cannot win with today's version of Zach Wilson. He is not enough of a true game manager like Alex Smith or Jimmy G. Verdict - Zach aint it. Wilson basically just admitted chafing at what LaFleur and the coaches have asked him to do, which is to play smart and within himself instead of doing whatever TF he feels like out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Fields had a productive, efficient day today vs one of the top defenses in the NFL And B2B games with 60+ yards and 1 TD on the ground And I don't think those are included in QBR. So he's not just contributing with his arm, but making plays with his legs? Zack should be picking up 30 yards a game (with a good slide to make sure he doesn't get damaged). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: So true. And that won’t change. Which could end up costing him his job. I do think that’s why he was pissed in the presser. He’s thinking “I can escape these guys, just get open, don’t stop because your route is over”. Which I do think needs to be worked on by the WRs but that’s another story. It's not that guys aren't open ever. It's that he sucks and can't find the open guys because he plays qb about as well as my ballsack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It's like NOBODY is coaching this guy. Does he even watch film?Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jNYC1 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 The only question I had heading into this game was - Can Zach produce under pressure? He produced 3 interceptions and has produced nothing under pressure all season. This is a QB issue and not a MLF issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, neckdemon said: It's not that guys aren't open ever. It's that he sucks and can't find the open guys because he plays qb about as well as my ballsack Oh cool. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said: So true. And that won’t change. Which could end up costing him his job. I do think that’s why he was pissed in the presser. He’s thinking “I can escape these guys, just get open, don’t stop because your route is over”. Which I do think needs to be worked on by the WRs but that’s another story. And if I had to guess, I’m sure the WRs are saying to themselves, or out loud in Moore’s case, I’m open initially, and you miss me. And then Wilson’s response in real time is practically a response of petulance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, jNYC1 said: The only question I had heading into this game was - Can Zach produce under pressure? He produced 3 interceptions and has produced nothing under pressure all season. This is a QB issue and not a MLF issue. It's not a MILF issue, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: And if I had to guess, I’m sure the WRs are saying to themselves, or out loud in Moore’s case, I’m open initially, and you miss me. And then Wilson’s response in real time is practically a response of petulance. Meeting rooms this week should be fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: Bench. He says this like throwing the ball away is the whole idea of his job. Such a loser mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, Icer said: We've all seen this story before. He's not the answer, just hope the FO is not going to delude themselves into bringing him back next year without a real alternative They're on the hook for his contract. but that's not the same thing as starting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Idk if there are any Zach wilson defenders in this thread.....but if so seek psychiatric help I'm certainly not a defender. I was absolutely exasperated by his play today. However, he played responsibly in the first half and the Jets were leading. It's really the second half of this game when the Pats came out like gangbusters and took the lead. Then he started pressing and just regressed to rookie form, trying to make sandlot plays. It was completely stupid and desperate. If he had simply maintain discipline in the second half, the Jets had every chance of winning, despite the terrible ST play. The defense kept them in it. Zach took them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If anyone has the game rewind thing from NFL that shows end zone cam, I'd really appreciate if you can post a snippet of that 4th and 5 that Zach could have walked for a first down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 This team is 7-1 with Mariota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Zach Wilson’s left-side throwing issue continues unabated. People are syaing he should roll out more. problem with that is the recievers have NO IDEA what he's doing. Granted a great QB can make big plays when the play breaks down. But you cannot do that every passing down. Passing in the NFL is 90% take a 2-3 step drop, make your read and get the ball to one of your targets. NOBODY is conditioned to this kind of chaos down after down. Moore is saying out loud what every other receiver is thinking. Even worse; thsi guy is missing gimme dumpoff passes that have to be made. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Only way you fire Douglas is if he lets Wilson be the unquestioned QB1 heading into 2023. Fields has little to do with that equation. I can't support a knee-jerk firing over Douglas no matter how badly he botched the 2021 QB class. Woody Johnson is guaranteed to hire a GM far worse than Douglas in the next go-round should JD get fired this offseason. Ride or die with the guy who at least has built the rest of the roster up to be solid. I guess. I know it’s an angry, knee-jerk reaction, and I know you really can’t fire a GM for a pick another GM, but after Jamal over Mahomes and Darnold over Allen, it really is impossible to put into words how hard this one would be to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, hawk said: If anyone has the game rewind thing from NFL that shows end zone cam, I'd really appreciate if you can post a snippet of that 4th and 5 that Zach could have walked for a first down. What qtr was it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: It's like NOBODY is coaching this guy. Does he even watch film? Sent from my SM-G996U using JetNation.com mobile app Film? Yes. Unfortunately.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If his teammates were paying attention postgame, Wilson runs the risk of losing the locker room (assuming he ever had it in the 1st place) Even Wilson’s half-assed mea culpa (not his fault for the loss but he “has to play better”) was qualified by an indirect shot at his WRs and playcaller (“frustrating rolling out all the time and seeing nothing”) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Zachtomims47 said: What qtr was it 4th I'm pretty sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, jNYC1 said: The only question I had heading into this game was - Can Zach produce under pressure? He produced 3 interceptions and has produced nothing under pressure all season. This is a QB issue and not a MLF issue. You're right... It's not an MLF issue... It's an MILF issue... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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