Popular Post JetsRay Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Zach Wilson is a 2nd year QB, still developing, still learning, and is right where he needs to be. The knee jerk reactions are so over the top ridiculous I feel like this place is being infiltrated with 3rd graders. This fan base is an embarrassment, and many of you should be ashamed. While the INT's sucked, there was a ton of good that we can take from this game and Zach's performance. Last week it was "OMG he only threw for 120 yds," this week he throws for 350, exactly as anybody with any logic or reason would suspect with Breece Hall gone and the team having to rely on the pass, and he did a lot of good things, but that isn' enough for our arm chair scouts. Two of the INT's were Zach trying to do too much, trying to salvage the drive, they were 3rd and long throws, and they sailed on him, both of those plays are plays he's both going to make someday, and learn to not throw them. He'll work on mechanics, it is fixable. The 3rd INT when he was trying to get rid of the ball, he didn't get it far enough out of bounds, also fixable, he knew it right away and the rest of the game you saw him correct that. He moved the ball, made great throws, the first TD to Conklin was an amazing throw. Our running game was not running on all cylinders just yet with JRob playing in his first game on a limited pitch count because he's had 3 days of practice in our system. STOP THE BS Jets fans, this is a 2nd year QB, he's played 18 total games. We are still 5-3, we still have a season, the Pats and Belichick have always been a team that knows how to attack a defense and make QB's look bad. Have some ******* patience. 18 28 4 2 12 8 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 he sucks -I dont need time to know he sucks-the problem is there is a VERY limited amount of options that would be better-losing our stud rb was brutal as now the offense has to run through wilson and he sucks 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets Things Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 No u 1 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 I agree it is completely bizarre This was Wilson’s best game one int was a good read where he overthrew a 2 yard pass another int was him throwing a ball away not enough out of bounds the third one was dumb, but it was him trying to make something happen on third and long down two scores Extremely easily correctable stuff, from a guy who proved the last nine games that he doesn’t turn the ball over Darnold used up this fanbases patience to develop a qb, it’s like they consider it all one single development lol 10 5 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsRay Posted October 31, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, kmnj said: he sucks -I dont need time to know he sucks-the problem is there is a VERY limited amount of options that would be better-losing our stud rb was brutal as now the offense has to run through wilson and he sucks Apparently we have 2nd graders too... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post K_O_Brien Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Big Zach guy, but yesterday was his 'ghosts' game and I'm not sure he recovers. His second pick was one of the worst throws you will ever see and it finshed the game as a contest. The third pick was just pure frustration. He's now given Saleh the license to go all-conservative again. But we're playing Josh Allen, instead of Skylar Thompson and Brett Rypien. And we can't run the football anymore. Things will get worse before they get better. 10 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Alentador31 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 This man literally said he's bored with throwing the ball away and frustrated that he doesn't see receivers open when he scrambles......even though we KNOW there are open receivers. 3 1 3 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, K_O_Brien said: Big Zach guy, but yesterday was his 'ghosts' game and I'm not sure he recovers. His second pick was one of the worst throws you will ever see and it finshed the game as a contest. The third pick was just pure frustration. He's now given Saleh the license to go all-conservative again. But we're playing Josh Allen, instead of Skylar Thompson and Brett Rypien. And we can't run the football anymore. Things will get worse before they get better. You’re calling a ball that he was throwing away the worst pick you’re ever seen? Are you ok? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghost420 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Zach Wilson is a 2nd year QB, still developing, still learning, and is right where he needs to be. The knee jerk reactions are so over the top ridiculous I feel like this place is being infiltrated with 3rd graders. This fan base is an embarrassment, and many of you should be ashamed. While the INT's sucked, there was a ton of good that we can take from this game and Zach's performance. Last week it was "OMG he only threw for 120 yds," this week he throws for 350, exactly as anybody with any logic or reason would suspect with Breece Hall gone and the team having to rely on the pass, and he did a lot of good things, but that isn' enough for our arm chair scouts. Two of the INT's were Zach trying to do too much, trying to salvage the drive, they were 3rd and long throws, and they sailed on him, both of those plays are plays he's both going to make someday, and learn to not throw them. He'll work on mechanics, it is fixable. The 3rd INT when he was trying to get rid of the ball, he didn't get it far enough out of bounds, also fixable, he knew it right away and the rest of the game you saw him correct that. He moved the ball, made great throws, the first TD to Conklin was an amazing throw. Our running game was not running on all cylinders just yet with JRob playing in his first game on a limited pitch count because he's had 3 days of practice in our system. STOP THE BS Jets fans, this is a 2nd year QB, he's played 18 total games. We are still 5-3, we still have a season, the Pats and Belichick have always been a team that knows how to attack a defense and make QB's look bad. Have some ******* patience. I bet you were saying rhe same thing about the other qbs we have drafted. I'm not being fooled this time. Wilson suck. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kdels62 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Kinda but mostly no. Zach’s bad game against the Pats was just an escalation of his bad games against the Packers and Broncos. He’s not staying in the pocket and taking his eyes off his downfield options. He’s not running forward even though he is an excellent athlete. He has moment but he’s mostly failing to be consistent. He has a chance to bounce back against a great team in Buffalo but if he doesn’t then it’s gonna be even more obvious that he’s not the guy. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghost420 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said: You’re calling a ball that he was throwing away the worst pick you’re ever seen? Are you ok? So Wilson is so bad even the passes he's throwing away get picked off. 3 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fullblast Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 At what stage of the development curve does he learn to step up in the pocket? 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Hes not developing or learning which is why hes going to get benched at some point next week. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adoni Beast Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 The stat line isn't the reason (majority) of us have had it. Those INTs weren't even well designed defensive robber scheme picks. They were the result of someone being completely reckless and playing hero ball. I'm sorry that's not a team player or a smart one. We'e freaking out because the least bit of heat in the pocket yesterday (his pocket presence has been better this year) caused him to run around like a chicken without his head. There were simple check downs to be had, and small yardage gains to be had instead of huge chunks losses from a sack or these insane INTs that a child would make during street ball. He has the talent...not sure the brains or mental make up. His comments after the game are locker room - losing and show someone who isn't ready to lead a team yet. It's all alarming to be honest. The Denver game, I wasn't so hard on him but a decent QB would have found the 4-5 times that game where a WR was open for a first down + and that close 7 point win would have been a 20 point walk in the park for our team. I don't think you quit on him yet...but you certainly don't quit on the season if he keeps playing this way...meaning you have to bench him if this continues. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trotter Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Zach Wilson is a 2nd year QB, still developing, still learning, and is right where he needs to be. The knee jerk reactions are so over the top ridiculous I feel like this place is being infiltrated with 3rd graders. This fan base is an embarrassment, and many of you should be ashamed. While the INT's sucked, there was a ton of good that we can take from this game and Zach's performance. Last week it was "OMG he only threw for 120 yds," this week he throws for 350, exactly as anybody with any logic or reason would suspect with Breece Hall gone and the team having to rely on the pass, and he did a lot of good things, but that isn' enough for our arm chair scouts. Two of the INT's were Zach trying to do too much, trying to salvage the drive, they were 3rd and long throws, and they sailed on him, both of those plays are plays he's both going to make someday, and learn to not throw them. He'll work on mechanics, it is fixable. The 3rd INT when he was trying to get rid of the ball, he didn't get it far enough out of bounds, also fixable, he knew it right away and the rest of the game you saw him correct that. He moved the ball, made great throws, the first TD to Conklin was an amazing throw. Our running game was not running on all cylinders just yet with JRob playing in his first game on a limited pitch count because he's had 3 days of practice in our system. STOP THE BS Jets fans, this is a 2nd year QB, he's played 18 total games. We are still 5-3, we still have a season, the Pats and Belichick have always been a team that knows how to attack a defense and make QB's look bad. Have some ******* patience. Some fair points but what is your suggestion for fixing the fact that he does not see the field past option 1 and repeatedly has receivers wide open? you want to give him the rest of the year to figure that out? thats fine but now that you a locker room full of guys who believe they are competing now and simply don’t want to ride out the year hoping he gets it. you are seeing it from Elijah and I do think there are others hence the backup qb moves yesterday 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 He’s bailing from the pocket every set of downs. He’s definitely not fine right now. I saw a tweet that said he plays the position like Mahomes if Mahomes were blackout drunk and I felt that was accurate. 8 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post munchmemory Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 Zach's fine. Nothing to see here. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron Rico Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: This was Wilson’s best game You're right. That's why we want to replace him. 5 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: The stat line isn't the reason (majority) of us have had it. Those INTs weren't even well designed defensive robber scheme picks. They were the result of someone being completely reckless and playing hero ball. I'm sorry that's not a team player or a smart one. We'e freaking out because the least bit of heat in the pocket yesterday (his pocket presence has been better this year) caused him to run around like a chicken without his head. There were simple check downs to be had, and small yardage gains to be had instead of huge chunks losses from a sack or these insane INTs that a child would make during street ball. He has the talent...not sure the brains or mental make up. His comments after the game are locker room - losing and show someone who isn't ready to lead a team yet. It's all alarming to be honest. The Denver game, I wasn't so hard on him but a decent QB would have found the 4-5 times that game where a WR was open for a first down + and that close 7 point win would have been a 20 point walk in the park for our team. I don't think you quit on him yet...but you certainly don't quit on the season if he keeps playing this way...meaning you have to bench him if this continues. No they weren’t one pick was an overthrow on a good play one was a throw away that didn’t go far enough out of bounds like, wtf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saul Goodman Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 He’s the worst starting quarterback in the NFL. No quarterback in NFL history has become successful after a rookie and second season like Zach has had. He’s done man. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: You’re calling a ball that he was throwing away the worst pick you’re ever seen? Are you ok? Dude, he was throwing the ball away and he threw it in bounds to a defender...throw the ball into the stands. You can even see his reaction after he does it, he puts both hands on his head in shock that he did it. I get it, we want Zach to be good because it makes the Jets better and we are so QB hungry sometimes we explain things away, but even Zach was disgusted by that based off his on field reaction. Throw it away, throw it to the parking lot, throw it to the stands, you throw it in bounds and to a defender? come on man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 he sucks under pressure which is common in the NFL. he needs to be sat down now 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: You’re calling a ball that he was throwing away the worst pick you’re ever seen? Are you ok? You do realize his intended target was “ out of bounds “ which can be defined as big as the earth once you are outside of the hash. He couldn’t even hit that target.. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 If Zach was showing growth we would have seen only 1 bone head interception… not 3. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetswinbaby! Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 It didn't take long for the Wilson apologists to start making their case... And that's OK... You are free to think anything you want... But I draw the line at you deciding that the Zach critics are somehow insane... What makes your opinion "right" and the opposite opinion "wrong?"... They are all just opinions, and we are all entitled to them... Stop the namecalling please... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thebuzzardman Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 There's a silver lining here, and it's that I have Allen, Diggs and the Buffalo defense on my fantasy team and I'm going to win HUGE next week. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, usanyj said: Dude, he was throwing the ball away and he threw it in bounds to a defender...throw the ball into the stands. You can even see his reaction after he does it, he puts both hands on his head in shock that he did it. I get it, we want Zach to be good because it makes the Jets better and we are so QB hungry sometimes we explain things away, but even Zach was disgusted by that based off his on field reaction. Throw it away, throw it to the parking lot, throw it to the stands, you throw it in bounds and to a defender? come on man. He’s thrown the ball away a hundred times this season. I am not concerned with him throwing it away out of bounds enough in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trotter Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: No they weren’t one pick was an overthrow on a good play one was a throw away that didn’t go far enough out of bounds like, wtf Not sure if you were at the game and if not maybe that is why you are struggling with the comments from others. There are receivers open and by open several yards on at least 10 plays that immediately come to mind yesterday while he is doing the hoop de doo back there. Maybe that is not projected watching the game on tv but it is plain in sight at the game. Mims specifically comes to mind on at least 3 plays where he is literally waving his arms. He does not see the field - it is simply a fact. Does time fix that - who knows but I think the majority are telling you probably not. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsRay Posted October 31, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said: Big Zach guy, but yesterday was his 'ghosts' game and I'm not sure he recovers. His second pick was one of the worst throws you will ever see and it finshed the game as a contest. The third pick was just pure frustration. He's now given Saleh the license to go all-conservative again. But we're playing Josh Allen, instead of Skylar Thompson and Brett Rypien. And we can't run the football anymore. Things will get worse before they get better. Nothing about that game yesterday about "ghosts" and what we saw with Darnold a few years ago was even remotely the same. Zach looked to be completely in command and hit on all of his reads pretty well. Again, the INT's were the only miscues.... 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy 2 Times Posted October 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2022 I’m still being patient. He needs to be allowed to play like he did yesterday. 30+ passes every week. Thrown to the wolves. Leave no question towards the future. Make him figure it out THIS year or replace him. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Zach Wilson is a 2nd year QB, still developing, still learning, and is right where he needs to be. he is tie for lasted (35th) in comp % 54.9 he is 31st in INT % 3.8 the only QB worst at TD % is Pickett a rookie. the only QB with a worst Rate is Pickett a rookie. he is on pace to have the worst 2nd season of any 1st rd QB ( 22 QBs) this last decade not named Manzel or Rosen. is this right where he needs to be? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, usanyj said: Dude, he was throwing the ball away and he threw it in bounds to a defender...throw the ball into the stands. You can even see his reaction after he does it, he puts both hands on his head in shock that he did it. I get it, we want Zach to be good because it makes the Jets better and we are so QB hungry sometimes we explain things away, but even Zach was disgusted by that based off his on field reaction. Throw it away, throw it to the parking lot, throw it to the stands, you throw it in bounds and to a defender? come on man. No sh*t, it was a bad play, ALL the QB's have had those moments, even the great QB's, look no further than both Brady and Rogers THIS year! Turning that play and making the statement "Zach is the worst ever" is just nonsense! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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