kevinc855 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, munchmemory said: Speaking of Von, he worries me for Sunday's game. And I'm sure the Jet coaches, too. Seems like he has found a fountain of youth or something. This guy can still destroy a game. and we thinki Zach runs backwards to much.....this is gona be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, BurntDice said: My guess is that it’s more about the $. Q needs to get paid and this trade frees up 6+ mil next year. He was also a luxury since the edge room is so deep. More reps for the other guys now I don't think so. The trade accelerates his signing bonus, so rather than spreading it over 23 & 24, it will all hit in '23. About $2.6M. I think tihs frees up his $4.25M base next year which will be paid by Denver, but accelerates about $2.5M signing bonus, saving about $1.75M.. Also frees up about $3.25M in 24, which was his unguaranteed base that he probably was never gonna see anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Dolphins correcting mistakes, they went out of their way to get Edmonds and he has been a huge disappointment. Also if Jalen Philips who looked promising was better they might not make the chubb deal. THIS is the big takeaway. Chubb is a huge acquisition in terms of trade resources and $$$. I don't think Miami makes that kind of move if Philips looks like an eventual star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Paradis said: File this one under “bad takes by those who don’t watch other teams” They're not the same player but they will have a similar impact on their offense. That was my point. Mostert is the starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, CSNY said: But the Bengals lost and by a substantial margin And if Zach did it , everyone would be saying " Garbage Time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said: He's already at 5.5 sacks 1.5? Von has 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, JetsRay said: You asked who would I like to see upgraded. Fair. 16 minutes ago, JetsRay said: I think Davis is a good player, does a solid job, and is a #1a or even 1b WR, good character guy, and a tough player who plays hard. But he's often injured, and he's not in the Hopkins, Metcalf, Diggs, Jefferson, Devante Adams sector. Fair. Matches my eval. when we first acquired him. 16 minutes ago, JetsRay said: Joyner is a serviceable player that is ok. Whitehead is good player but needs a player like a Simmons from Denver or a Micah Hyde from Buffalo type player. Presume upgrade would require an external person then. 16 minutes ago, JetsRay said: The DL is best position on the team with depth, but I think we need to upgrade the interior. Being the best unit on the team (or certainly close to it) makes more investment in it while other units remain quite weak to be unlikely, but fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Would be really great if JD could pull off a Zach Wilson for Patrick Mahomes swap here in the final 15. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, greenwichjetfan said: Would be really great if JD could pull off a Zach Wilson for Patrick Mahomes swap here in the final 15. Only if the Chiefs throw in a 2nd rounder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Would be really great if JD could pull off a Zach Wilson for Patrick Mahomes swap here in the final 15. Heard its almost official the sticking point being Zach asking for a list of qualified MILFS in vicinity of Arrowhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lith said: I don't think so. The trade accelerates his signing bonus, so rather than spreading it over 23 & 24, it will all hit in '23. About $2.6M. I think tihs frees up his $4.25M base next year which will be paid by Denver, but accelerates about $2.5M signing bonus, saving about $1.75M.. Also frees up about $3.25M in 24, which was his unguaranteed base that he probably was never gonna see anyway. Makes sense he’s making 2.7 this year so like 1 gets rolled over too then right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Heard its almost official the sticking point being Zach asking for a list of qualified MILFS in vicinity of Arrowhead. Match made in heaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think Vinny Curry might have influenced the Martin deal. He had to be a huge question mark entering the season. Now that Bryce Huff is playing the DPR better than Martin and they have Curry as a vet, to play the run and insurance, getting a pick is nice. Pushing it all to 2024 though. Everybody will forget and it will seem like a bonus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter And another! Colts are trading Nyheim Hines to the Buffalo Bills, sources tell ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PS17 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Okay Buffalo, we get it, you’re good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Guys, we’re good. Saleh is going to manifest Zach having balls and a brain into reality with positive vibes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, C Mart said: Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter And another! Colts are trading Nyheim Hines to the Buffalo Bills, sources tell ESPN. Ari Meirov @MySportsUpdate The #Bills are sending RB Zach Moss and a 6th rounder that could become a 5th for Nyheim Hines, per @JayGlazer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The Jets were never going to give up picks, they don't trust their QB enough to go all in this year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be_a_Jet Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Miami has a lot of money committed. They gotta win in the next year or so or start over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, choon328 said: The Jets were never going to give up picks, they don't trust their QB enough to go all in this year. I think if we won Sunday we would have seen a move for Conklin or Tunsil but it's probably wise to wait til after the season and build Moores trade value up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: Miami has a lot of money committed. They gotta win in the next year or so or start over Also one hit on Tua from picking in the top 5 for the next 2-3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Be_a_Jet said: Miami has a lot of money committed. They gotta win in the next year or so or start over They’re going all in but I don’t think they’re winning any championships with Tua. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 JD made his move with James Robinson earlier last week. He gave up a conditional 5th/6th and I don't think he was in the mood to part with additional assets unless it was a very good deal. If they haven't made a panic move for OT thus far I don't think they're doing one with Fant and Mitchell likely returning in the next 2-3 weeks (Jets have a Bye week in there too). I think the Jets were in seller mode today as evidenced by the Jacob Martin deal. Never believed the Bradley Chubb rumors, never believed they'd make a big move for OT. I also think it would have taken a lot to pry Elijah Moore away.... JD isn't giving up on him this quickly. It would have taken more than JD used to get him IMO (think a 2nd and 3rd for a guy taken at the top of Round 2). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, PS17 said: Okay Buffalo, we get it, you’re good I feel like they're constantly trying to upgrade Singletary and all that dude does is produce when asked, lol, so weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I think if we won Sunday we would have seen a move for Conklin or Tunsil but it's probably wise to wait til after the season and build Moores trade value up I think you nailed it here. 6-2 v 5-3 is huge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I think if we won Sunday we would have seen a move for Conklin or Tunsil but it's probably wise to wait til after the season and build Moores trade value up I don't think Saleh or JD want to trade Moore. Trading Moore doesn't improve the WR core at all. Especially when Davis is out on his multi-week leg injury. And even next season, Davis is gone ($14 mil) then what? If they wanted to move him im pretty sure they could have. I wouldn't be surprised to hear they turned down solid to decent offers for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, David Harris said: They’re going all in but I don’t think they’re winning any championships with Tua. 3rd highest completion percentage (69.9%), 3rd highest TD Pass Percentage (6.5%), 7th Lowest INT Percentage (1.6%), 1st in Yards Per Attempt (9.6 YPA) 1st in NFL in QB Rating (112.7) Dolphins are 5-1 in games he has started, including a win over Buffalo where he had a 128.3 passing rating. Am I missing something here? What part of his being a pretty clear-cut top 5 QB this year (with two league-best WR's) is holding them back, outside injury risk? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, hawk said: I'd be happy with any improvement on the Offensive line and any improvement with our pass rush (which is already quite good.) If we could get Brian Burns by getting rid of some dead weight (Moore) and minimal draft compensation. ? FWIW, the Panthers supposedly just turned down the Rams offer of two firsts for Burns. @T0mShane it was a nice thought, but no thanks. OTOH, that probably means stockpiling these edges might end up letting us trade some for even more than we got for Martin in future years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Quote Jets did not trade Elijah Moore and Denzel Mims before the trade deadline. - Rich Cimini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: Jets did not trade Elijah Moore and Denzel Mims before the trade deadline. - Rich Cimini Did anyone really think they would? Or really could? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Warfish said: Did anyone really think they would? Or really could? Nope. As I said earlier in the thread it would have taken a pretty significant offer to pry Moore away I think. It also sends a really bad message to a team just starting to find some level of confidence and belief that they can compete. With all of Zach's struggles the last thing you do is take away a weapon, especially with Corey Davis injured. It would have looked like they were throwing in the towel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, JiFapono said: I feel like they're constantly trying to upgrade Singletary and all that dude does is produce when asked, lol, so weird. They upgraded Zack Moss. Singletary and Hines is a good duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Can’t be bad as a Jets fan. Picked up a good RB in James Robinson and offloaded a rotational pass rusher to move from the 5th to 4th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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