QB Opinions on Zach

[Barry McCockinner]

 

[SuicidalSince98]

Are we talking about an overthrow and a ball that he was throwing away? Like wtf are we saying here 

[Mario]

Dan Orvolsky is to Sam Darnold what Trent Dilfer was to Mark Sanchez and Chris Simms is to Zach Wilson. 

[Mario]

Also can someone please post the clip of Dans safety? 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Are we talking about an overthrow and a ball that he was throwing away? Like wtf are we saying here 

Or talking about Zach saying he doesn't like throwing it away and wants to make something happen. Which kinda = ego.

[Barry McCockinner]

Just now, Mario said:

Dan Orvolsky is to Sam Darnold what Trent Dilfer was to Mark Sanchez and Chris Simms is to Zach Wilson. 

[bitonti]

1 minute ago, Mario said:

Dan Orvolsky is to Sam Darnold what Trent Dilfer was to Mark Sanchez and Chris Simms is to Zach Wilson. 

[bitonti]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

lol we made like the same post at the same moment 

yours was better

 

[SuicidalSince98]

1 minute ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Or talking about Zach saying he doesn't like throwing it away and wants to make something happen. Which kinda = ego.

I haven’t seen a QBs throw it away more than wilson the last 10 weeks. He made a dumb throw, every QB makes dumb throws.

[Larz]

Toughen up

he doesn’t scramble with a purpose he actually runs for his life.  It’s embarrassing now. 
 

[Mario]

I also think Dan only said nice things about Darnold to suck up to Greenberg and get the gig on GetUp. 

[munchmemory]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

 

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

For us old schoolers:

[Dcat]

did someone say fudge?

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

20 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I haven’t seen a QBs throw it away more than wilson the last 10 weeks. He made a dumb throw, every QB makes dumb throws.

But none of those other QBs are using that as an excuse for NOT throwing it away (which was his justification for the third INT).  I’m sure Orlovsky is also pointing to Zach’s back foot throws (the reason for his first INT), which is sloppy and lazy.

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, Bronxville Jets Fan said:

But none of those other QBs are using that as an excuse for NOT throwing it away (which was his justification for the third INT).  I’m sure Orlovsky is also pointing to Zach’s back foot throws (the reason for his first INT), which is sloppy and lazy.

Again with the first int back throw nonsense. That is an elementary school throw, you don’t need mechanics to hit a 2 yarder. 

[Matt39]

Not sure if it’s about growing up. Wilson never faced any pressure in college. It’s something you have or don’t. Him bailing from the pocket like he’s blindfolded means he’s not ready to play yet. 

[Bronxville Jets Fan]

2 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Again with the first int back throw nonsense. That is an elementary school throw, you don’t need mechanics to hit a 2 yarder. 

Charles Davis explained pretty clearly why throwing off your back foot — for no reason — causes the ball to sail high.

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, Bronxville Jets Fan said:

Charles Davis explained pretty clearly why throwing off your back foot — for no reason — causes the ball to sail high.

Charles Davis is clueless, have you ever held a football in your life? 

[southparkcpa]

29 minutes ago, Larz said:

Toughen up

he doesn’t scramble with a purpose he actually runs for his life.  It’s embarrassing now. 
 

He's a street player and those that are defending him are simply blind homers. NO QB in the league will succeed with Zach's approach.

[munchmemory]

5 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Charles Davis is clueless, have you ever held a football in your life? 

"Davis was born in Elizabethton, Tennessee, but he and his family moved to New Paltz, New York, when he was two years old. His father, Franklin, was a high school football and basketball coach.[1] Davis played football, basketball and baseball at New Paltz High School. Davis played quarterback, defensive back, and kicker for the high school football team."

 

[SuicidalSince98]

2 minutes ago, munchmemory said:

"Davis was born in Elizabethton, Tennessee, but he and his family moved to New Paltz, New York, when he was two years old. His father, Franklin, was a high school football and basketball coach.[1] Davis played football, basketball and baseball at New Paltz High School. Davis played quarterback, defensive back, and kicker for the high school football team."

 

Watch football any Sunday and you will every QB in the nfl making 2 yard throws off their back foot. 

[munchmemory]

3 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Watch football any Sunday and you will every QB in the nfl making 2 yard throws off their back foot. 

Agreed.  I saw Josh Allen do it last night.   Threw an absolute laser this way for a TD.   But that dude's arm is ridiculous.  Most QBs going off the back foot the majority of the time will fail.

[undertow]

2 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Watch football any Sunday and you will every QB in the nfl making 2 yard throws off their back foot. 

yeah but not like this

[SuicidalSince98]

1 minute ago, undertow said:

yeah but not like this

I’m not defending the throw it was awful, but it had nothing to do with mechanics backfoot nonsense 

[DoubleDown]

38 minutes ago, Dcat said:

did someone say fudge?

@The Crusher

[T0mShane]

I feel like some of this is over the top because a Packers, Denver, and Belichick run will make most QBs look like balls, but Orlovsky is a huge homer/hot take artist. This is just indicative of the bottom falling out for Zach’s support, which represents a whole new world for him as a QB. And he gets to try and stem the tide against the Bills with his own org ******* around with the depth chart behind him. Make or break for Wilson right now.

[HawkeyeJet]

I actually agree with him 100% and said essentially the same thing yesterday with a different way of phrasing it.

I think Zach’s biggest issue by a country mile is how he wants his “game” look.  He wants To make big splash he plays and he wants you to think it’s effortless when he does.  He wants to make sure you know he has immense physical gifts, which he does.  That’s why as something as simply as a throwaway can go seriously wrong.  He just thinks, meh, a little flick of the wrist here outta do” and disaster strikes.

Until he values making the best play regardless of how exciting it is, he won’t get much better.  Unfortunately I don’t know if that will happen.  I think he’d rather have some say that he “could become the next Aaron Rodgers if he puts it all together” than someone say he’s a “solid like Ryan Tannehill”

 

[CanadaSteve]

1 hour ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Are we talking about an overthrow and a ball that he was throwing away? Like wtf are we saying here 

We're saying he has flat-out sucked, and if he can't stop sucking, he can (and should) be put on the bench.

Pretty simple, really.

[SuicidalSince98]

1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I actually agree with him 100% and said essentially the same thing yesterday with a different way of phrasing it.

I think Zach’s biggest issue by a country mile is how he wants his “game” look.  He wants To make big splash he plays and he wants you to think it’s effortless when he does.  He wants to make sure you know he has immense physical gifts, which he does.  That’s why as something as simply as a throwaway can go seriously wrong.  He just thinks, meh, a little flick of the wrist here outta do” and disaster strikes.

Until he values making the best play regardless of how exciting it is, he won’t get much better.  Unfortunately I don’t know if that will happen.  I think he’d rather have some say that he “could become the next Aaron Rodgers if he puts it all together” than someone say he’s a “solid like Ryan Tannehill”

 

We are talking about the QB that the entire forum was blasting for being too conservative and only throwing for 100 yards the last two weeks? 

[Pac]

Zap hears the haters and is prepping for a big week.  No Bill defender will lay a finger on him.

 

 

 

[#27TheDominator]

47 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Again with the first int back throw nonsense. That is an elementary school throw, you don’t need mechanics to hit a 2 yarder. 

Maybe I don't, but it looks like Zach does.

[HawkeyeJet]

3 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

We are talking about the QB that the entire forum was blasting for being too conservative and only throwing for 100 yards the last two weeks? 

Well personally, I think being too conservative and what we saw yesterday is all connected to the main issue, which in my opinion is his ego.

I could be completely wrong.  I’ve been wrong many times before and will be many times again.  I root like hell for him to succeed and will ALWAYS default to pointing out positives before negatives. That said, there are these types of plays littered all over his career, whether during his train wreck performances like yesterday, or his “successful” game management games like Denver or Green Bay.

[munchmemory]

7 minutes ago, Pac said:

Zap hears the haters and is prepping for a big week.  No Bill defender will lay a finger on him.

 

 

 

[Pac]

If the Bills dare blitz be prepared for:

 

[NYJCAP2]

39 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I’m not defending the throw it was awful, but it had nothing to do with mechanics backfoot nonsense 

Wrong