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It’s growing clearer Johnsons finally got it right for Jets with Robert Saleh

 

Woody Johnson was beaming.

As the Jets owner stood in the bowels of MetLife Stadium outside the team’s locker room, shortly after his players and coaches stunned the heavily favored Bills 20-17 on Sunday, he wore the look of a proud father.

“Top five,” Johnson said breathlessly. “That was top five of all time for me.”

In the 22 years since Johnson bought the team, there haven’t been a whole lot of “top” anything moments.

Woody and his brother Christopher, both of whom have endured their fair share of criticism, are deserving of the moments that have been unfolding in this unlikely 6-3 season, which is in a bye-week breather.

For owners who’ve gotten so many things wrong over the years — their swing-and-miss choices for head coaches (Todd Bowles and Adam Gase) and general managers (John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan) being at the top of that list — there’s mounting evidence that the Johnsons have gotten it quite right with head coach Robert Saleh and general manager Joe Douglas.

There is, of course, a lot more work to be done before this Jets team breaks its 12-year drought without a playoff berth. No one is more cognizant of that than Saleh.

But Saleh is steadily proving himself to be made of the right stuff as a head coach who possesses the right combination as a players-first coach who’s humble enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers and yet tough enough to have a conviction with his plan.

 

Saleh is not a credit monger. He’s quick to dole out praise to those around him when things are going well, deflecting it from himself. After the win Sunday, for example, he spoke of being happy about the team’s start and sudden burst into relevance for the people in the organization who’ve endured so much losing before his arrival.

Saleh praised his coaching staff — particularly defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, whose unit did to Josh Allen and the prolific Buffalo offense what no other team had done this season. He, too, recognized offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, who did a masterful job of reining in second-year quarterback Zach Wilson a week after he’d carelessly thrown three game-turning interceptions to the New England defense.

Saleh combines an innate ability of bonding with people and making them believe even in the trying times, with not immersing himself too deeply into one area of the team while shortchanging other areas.

former Jets head coach Rex Ryan used to be all about his defense and he often thumped his chest telling you how good his defenses were.

Gase, the head coach who preceded Saleh, was so consumed with his offense that he had little idea what his defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, was calling on the other side of the ball (see: cover-zero blitz against the Raiders in 2020).

 

Bowles, who coached the Jets before Gase, was someone whom the players in the locker room walked all over, taking advantage of his passive nature (see Mo Wilkerson’s and Sheldon Richardson’s repeated insubordination).

 

Jets know fast start hasn’t accomplished anything yet: ‘Keep this thing going”

Saleh is a proper CEO of the entire operation, a good delegator, but one who’s involved in all facets. He, too, is a good front man for the organization, handling himself professionally in front of the media and fans, an area that was not a strong suit for Bowles or Gase.

Veteran linebacker C.J. Mosley said that what sets Saleh apart from other coaches he has played for is “the way he’s able to keep everybody together, keep everybody on the same page.’’

“He really comes to work every day with the mindset to get better,’’ Mosley said.

Mosley referenced Saleh’s “all gas, no brake’’ saying and his “60 percent’’ Navy SEAL mantra and said: “That’s the way he lives, that’s what he preaches every day, and we’re buying into it, we believe it. All that adds up on the football field.’’

It adds up to Woody and Christopher Johnson finally getting the recipe right and reaping the deserved benefits of a satisfying meal.

 

“When you talk to Woody and Christopher, they’re very supportive, first of all … and you just feel how much every win and loss [is] and how important it is to them,’’ Saleh said. “It’s awesome when we win because they’re happier than anyone. This is their baby. This is their team. You can see it in their faces. And when we lose, you can feel that also.

So, winning obviously for them and knowing what this organization has been through, there’s nothing more than any of us want to do is to bring a winner to this organization for our fans, for them, our families.’’

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4 minutes ago, doitny said:

this is true. but if there this evil meddling owners like some here think they are they could have told JD that they didnt want Saleh. they also could have demanded Gase get a 3rd year. 

so you are right, but i give them credit for letting JD do his job. 

I think more than anything, they needed someone who could walk into the building saying "I've got this" with confidence so the Johnson's could just be like fans rather than getting involved in actual football decisions.

Prior GM's kept f**king up who also either:  1) Relied too heavily on the HC's to make personnel decisions (Tannenbaum/Maccagnan),  2) Weren't on the same page with their HC's (Idzik), and/or were too incompetent to do much of anything well (Maccagnan).  Thus opening the door for the Johnson's to meddle.

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41 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He's done f**king nothing since he got back, what the hell are people talking about lol

What, you've missed his tweets about what uniforms are to be worn for the game?... That's up there with designing defensive plays...

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2 hours ago, doitny said:

It’s growing clearer Johnsons finally got it right for Jets with Robert Saleh

 

Woody Johnson was beaming.

As the Jets owner stood in the bowels of MetLife Stadium outside the team’s locker room, shortly after his players and coaches stunned the heavily favored Bills 20-17 on Sunday, he wore the look of a proud father.

“Top five,” Johnson said breathlessly. “That was top five of all time for me.”

In the 22 years since Johnson bought the team, there haven’t been a whole lot of “top” anything moments.

Woody and his brother Christopher, both of whom have endured their fair share of criticism, are deserving of the moments that have been unfolding in this unlikely 6-3 season, which is in a bye-week breather.

For owners who’ve gotten so many things wrong over the years — their swing-and-miss choices for head coaches (Todd Bowles and Adam Gase) and general managers (John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan) being at the top of that list — there’s mounting evidence that the Johnsons have gotten it quite right with head coach Robert Saleh and general manager Joe Douglas.

There is, of course, a lot more work to be done before this Jets team breaks its 12-year drought without a playoff berth. No one is more cognizant of that than Saleh.

But Saleh is steadily proving himself to be made of the right stuff as a head coach who possesses the right combination as a players-first coach who’s humble enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers and yet tough enough to have a conviction with his plan.

 

Saleh is not a credit monger. He’s quick to dole out praise to those around him when things are going well, deflecting it from himself. After the win Sunday, for example, he spoke of being happy about the team’s start and sudden burst into relevance for the people in the organization who’ve endured so much losing before his arrival.

Saleh praised his coaching staff — particularly defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, whose unit did to Josh Allen and the prolific Buffalo offense what no other team had done this season. He, too, recognized offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, who did a masterful job of reining in second-year quarterback Zach Wilson a week after he’d carelessly thrown three game-turning interceptions to the New England defense.

Saleh combines an innate ability of bonding with people and making them believe even in the trying times, with not immersing himself too deeply into one area of the team while shortchanging other areas.

former Jets head coach Rex Ryan used to be all about his defense and he often thumped his chest telling you how good his defenses were.

Gase, the head coach who preceded Saleh, was so consumed with his offense that he had little idea what his defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, was calling on the other side of the ball (see: cover-zero blitz against the Raiders in 2020).

 

Bowles, who coached the Jets before Gase, was someone whom the players in the locker room walked all over, taking advantage of his passive nature (see Mo Wilkerson’s and Sheldon Richardson’s repeated insubordination).

 

Jets know fast start hasn’t accomplished anything yet: ‘Keep this thing going”

Saleh is a proper CEO of the entire operation, a good delegator, but one who’s involved in all facets. He, too, is a good front man for the organization, handling himself professionally in front of the media and fans, an area that was not a strong suit for Bowles or Gase.

Veteran linebacker C.J. Mosley said that what sets Saleh apart from other coaches he has played for is “the way he’s able to keep everybody together, keep everybody on the same page.’’

“He really comes to work every day with the mindset to get better,’’ Mosley said.

Mosley referenced Saleh’s “all gas, no brake’’ saying and his “60 percent’’ Navy SEAL mantra and said: “That’s the way he lives, that’s what he preaches every day, and we’re buying into it, we believe it. All that adds up on the football field.’’

It adds up to Woody and Christopher Johnson finally getting the recipe right and reaping the deserved benefits of a satisfying meal.

 

“When you talk to Woody and Christopher, they’re very supportive, first of all … and you just feel how much every win and loss [is] and how important it is to them,’’ Saleh said. “It’s awesome when we win because they’re happier than anyone. This is their baby. This is their team. You can see it in their faces. And when we lose, you can feel that also.

So, winning obviously for them and knowing what this organization has been through, there’s nothing more than any of us want to do is to bring a winner to this organization for our fans, for them, our families.’’

would you say that hit paydirt? :) 

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I could have written these articles months, heck years ago.  Post UK Woody is a revelation, build the statue of Joe D, Saleh will win us multiple super bowls, Ulbrich is on the of the brightest, young defensive minds in the game etc etc etc.

If only these writers followed my posts they would all have been promoted by now.

 

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I was critical of Saleh early this year going against what I have been saying on these boards for years. When you have so many additions to a team like we had this offseason it takes time for them to adjust to the new schemes. That much was evident with the miscommunications we saw early in the year. Now that both sides of the ball have had time to work together they are getting better and better and that is a really good sign for the coach and the GM who built this team. 

I don't think there was any doubt Joe Douglas was the right guy for the Job and by Woody finally giving the GM control made all the difference but the key was having the right guy in the first place. People here have accused Woody of everything wrong with the Jets and that's simply untrue and has been since he took over ownership of this franchise. He always spent the Money he just had the wrong guys making the decisions . 

As much criticism as Woody has taken he now deserves the credit .

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19 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Neither Woody nor Chris Johnson had much of anything to do with Joe Douglas being here.  And Douglas hired Saleh.

But, sure, let's credit the friggin Johnson's.

The Johnson's are incompetent, clueless owners.  I know they want to win and bring their inherited money to the table but outside of their money they deserve no credit.  Through their incompetence they fell into Joe Douglas who is the greatest thing to happen to this franchise in my 43 years.

They ruined Sundays for decades.  Insecure, socially desperate, silver spoon, country club plutocrats with no real-world experience or management skills. 

 

Watch 2003's "Born Rich" documentary made by Woody's son(?).  I'll never forget Woody standing in his opulent living room holding a pallet and trying to paint because that was considered cultured in the gilded age, or the faux-Victorian parties where they dress up in tuxes and have guests arrive in horse-drawn carriages like the Astor days of high society.  Completely out of touch, trapped in a cage of wealth that stifles hardship and therefore growth.

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47 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Beyond the praise for Joe Douglas, these folks need to be in the conversation:

Assistant GM-Rex Hogan

Director of Player Personnel- Chad Alexander

Senior Advisor-Phil Savage

All people Douglas brought in to make this a viable organization. I fear some of these guys getting poached.

Kind of a good problem to have.  They will be tough losses when they inevitably go elsewhere for sure, but Douglas hired these guys so he can bring in more like them.  

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20 hours ago, doitny said:

It’s growing clearer Johnsons finally got it right for Jets with Robert Saleh

 

Woody Johnson was beaming.

As the Jets owner stood in the bowels of MetLife Stadium outside the team’s locker room, shortly after his players and coaches stunned the heavily favored Bills 20-17 on Sunday, he wore the look of a proud father.

“Top five,” Johnson said breathlessly. “That was top five of all time for me.”

In the 22 years since Johnson bought the team, there haven’t been a whole lot of “top” anything moments.

Woody and his brother Christopher, both of whom have endured their fair share of criticism, are deserving of the moments that have been unfolding in this unlikely 6-3 season, which is in a bye-week breather.

For owners who’ve gotten so many things wrong over the years — their swing-and-miss choices for head coaches (Todd Bowles and Adam Gase) and general managers (John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan) being at the top of that list — there’s mounting evidence that the Johnsons have gotten it quite right with head coach Robert Saleh and general manager Joe Douglas.

There is, of course, a lot more work to be done before this Jets team breaks its 12-year drought without a playoff berth. No one is more cognizant of that than Saleh.

But Saleh is steadily proving himself to be made of the right stuff as a head coach who possesses the right combination as a players-first coach who’s humble enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers and yet tough enough to have a conviction with his plan.

 

Saleh is not a credit monger. He’s quick to dole out praise to those around him when things are going well, deflecting it from himself. After the win Sunday, for example, he spoke of being happy about the team’s start and sudden burst into relevance for the people in the organization who’ve endured so much losing before his arrival.

Saleh praised his coaching staff — particularly defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, whose unit did to Josh Allen and the prolific Buffalo offense what no other team had done this season. He, too, recognized offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, who did a masterful job of reining in second-year quarterback Zach Wilson a week after he’d carelessly thrown three game-turning interceptions to the New England defense.

Saleh combines an innate ability of bonding with people and making them believe even in the trying times, with not immersing himself too deeply into one area of the team while shortchanging other areas.

former Jets head coach Rex Ryan used to be all about his defense and he often thumped his chest telling you how good his defenses were.

Gase, the head coach who preceded Saleh, was so consumed with his offense that he had little idea what his defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, was calling on the other side of the ball (see: cover-zero blitz against the Raiders in 2020).

 

Bowles, who coached the Jets before Gase, was someone whom the players in the locker room walked all over, taking advantage of his passive nature (see Mo Wilkerson’s and Sheldon Richardson’s repeated insubordination).

 

Jets know fast start hasn’t accomplished anything yet: ‘Keep this thing going”

Saleh is a proper CEO of the entire operation, a good delegator, but one who’s involved in all facets. He, too, is a good front man for the organization, handling himself professionally in front of the media and fans, an area that was not a strong suit for Bowles or Gase.

Veteran linebacker C.J. Mosley said that what sets Saleh apart from other coaches he has played for is “the way he’s able to keep everybody together, keep everybody on the same page.’’

“He really comes to work every day with the mindset to get better,’’ Mosley said.

Mosley referenced Saleh’s “all gas, no brake’’ saying and his “60 percent’’ Navy SEAL mantra and said: “That’s the way he lives, that’s what he preaches every day, and we’re buying into it, we believe it. All that adds up on the football field.’’

It adds up to Woody and Christopher Johnson finally getting the recipe right and reaping the deserved benefits of a satisfying meal.

 

“When you talk to Woody and Christopher, they’re very supportive, first of all … and you just feel how much every win and loss [is] and how important it is to them,’’ Saleh said. “It’s awesome when we win because they’re happier than anyone. This is their baby. This is their team. You can see it in their faces. And when we lose, you can feel that also.

So, winning obviously for them and knowing what this organization has been through, there’s nothing more than any of us want to do is to bring a winner to this organization for our fans, for them, our families.’’

Many folks owe Christopher Johnson an apology!

He was pillared out here but because he was in charge he made these key decisions and they were, despite the protestations of many out here brilliant.

1. Pivoted from Gase quickly when it was clear he was not the right hire!

2. Brought in JD, clearly one of the best GMs in the entire NFL. Perfect No! But Great nevertheless!

3. Brought in Robert Saleh, the team looks stable and professional from top to bottom, without the drama of Rex.  I haven't had this inner calm since Parcells was on the sideline!

 

Thanks Mr. C Johnson we owe you BIG TIME!!

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On 11/9/2022 at 3:22 PM, doitny said:

It’s growing clearer Johnsons finally got it right for Jets with Robert Saleh

 

Woody Johnson was beaming.

As the Jets owner stood in the bowels of MetLife Stadium outside the team’s locker room, shortly after his players and coaches stunned the heavily favored Bills 20-17 on Sunday, he wore the look of a proud father.

“Top five,” Johnson said breathlessly. “That was top five of all time for me.”

In the 22 years since Johnson bought the team, there haven’t been a whole lot of “top” anything moments.

Woody and his brother Christopher, both of whom have endured their fair share of criticism, are deserving of the moments that have been unfolding in this unlikely 6-3 season, which is in a bye-week breather.

For owners who’ve gotten so many things wrong over the years — their swing-and-miss choices for head coaches (Todd Bowles and Adam Gase) and general managers (John Idzik and Mike Maccagnan) being at the top of that list — there’s mounting evidence that the Johnsons have gotten it quite right with head coach Robert Saleh and general manager Joe Douglas.

There is, of course, a lot more work to be done before this Jets team breaks its 12-year drought without a playoff berth. No one is more cognizant of that than Saleh.

But Saleh is steadily proving himself to be made of the right stuff as a head coach who possesses the right combination as a players-first coach who’s humble enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers and yet tough enough to have a conviction with his plan.

 

Saleh is not a credit monger. He’s quick to dole out praise to those around him when things are going well, deflecting it from himself. After the win Sunday, for example, he spoke of being happy about the team’s start and sudden burst into relevance for the people in the organization who’ve endured so much losing before his arrival.

Saleh praised his coaching staff — particularly defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, whose unit did to Josh Allen and the prolific Buffalo offense what no other team had done this season. He, too, recognized offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, who did a masterful job of reining in second-year quarterback Zach Wilson a week after he’d carelessly thrown three game-turning interceptions to the New England defense.

Saleh combines an innate ability of bonding with people and making them believe even in the trying times, with not immersing himself too deeply into one area of the team while shortchanging other areas.

former Jets head coach Rex Ryan used to be all about his defense and he often thumped his chest telling you how good his defenses were.

Gase, the head coach who preceded Saleh, was so consumed with his offense that he had little idea what his defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, was calling on the other side of the ball (see: cover-zero blitz against the Raiders in 2020).

 

Bowles, who coached the Jets before Gase, was someone whom the players in the locker room walked all over, taking advantage of his passive nature (see Mo Wilkerson’s and Sheldon Richardson’s repeated insubordination).

 

Jets know fast start hasn’t accomplished anything yet: ‘Keep this thing going”

Saleh is a proper CEO of the entire operation, a good delegator, but one who’s involved in all facets. He, too, is a good front man for the organization, handling himself professionally in front of the media and fans, an area that was not a strong suit for Bowles or Gase.

Veteran linebacker C.J. Mosley said that what sets Saleh apart from other coaches he has played for is “the way he’s able to keep everybody together, keep everybody on the same page.’’

“He really comes to work every day with the mindset to get better,’’ Mosley said.

Mosley referenced Saleh’s “all gas, no brake’’ saying and his “60 percent’’ Navy SEAL mantra and said: “That’s the way he lives, that’s what he preaches every day, and we’re buying into it, we believe it. All that adds up on the football field.’’

It adds up to Woody and Christopher Johnson finally getting the recipe right and reaping the deserved benefits of a satisfying meal.

 

“When you talk to Woody and Christopher, they’re very supportive, first of all … and you just feel how much every win and loss [is] and how important it is to them,’’ Saleh said. “It’s awesome when we win because they’re happier than anyone. This is their baby. This is their team. You can see it in their faces. And when we lose, you can feel that also.

So, winning obviously for them and knowing what this organization has been through, there’s nothing more than any of us want to do is to bring a winner to this organization for our fans, for them, our families.’’

building em up to knock them down.  i think we should all be very hopeful with what we are seeing but let's see if saleh can continue to build on the success thus far before putting him in canton.

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