Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoot-Face Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: Whoa. Amazing that we seemingly have been getting good pressure by only rushing 4 and not all out-blitzing. The biggest fall of those old Rex defenses was that once team's figured out that he's blitzing and how to exploit it, he could never adjust. This Saleh defense is night and day from what it was a year ago. Simply amazing. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Would love to see the whole list but what's shown doesn't seem to correlate to much one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 I knew the Jets would be at the bottom of the list before opening the thread. The fastest way to an elite defense is being able to get to the QB while only rushing four. This rotating front four is really good. Add in the best corner duo [trio actually] and some rangy safeties and linebackers and you’ve got a kickass defense. This season is the first time in my life I’ve actually expected the Jets to make crucial stops on 3rd down and late in the fourth quarter. Rex’s defenses always fell apart late because the foundation was exotic blitzes. When you can drop seven high performers in coverage and still get excellent pressure, the offense is f*cked. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, PS17 said: I knew the Jets would be at the bottom of the list before opening the thread. The fastest way to an elite defense is being able to get to the QB while only rushing four. This rotating front four is really good. Add in the best corner duo [trio actually] and some rangy safeties and linebackers and you’ve got a kickass defense. This season is the first time in my life I’ve actually expected the Jets to make crucial stops on 3rd down and late in the fourth quarter. Rex’s defenses always fell apart late because the foundation was exotic blitzes. When you can drop seven high performers in coverage and still get excellent pressure, the offense is f*cked. The defense has allowed less passing TDs all season than the offense has generated, which is absolutely nuts given how our QB has not thrown many this season. This is because of the fact that blitzes aren't needed. It's crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 So here is the really cool part. They are generating tremendous pressure using the front 4. That has always been the dream. They have depth, keep guys fresh and get to the QB. The cool part is that with the secondary growing into its own, they can start taking chances and blitzing a bit. This team is dominating in their Cover Two Zone. So they won't change their colors. But it will be nice to see a blitz every now and then which causes even more disruption. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 That's an insane stat. This coaching staff has really turned it around in a big big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SuicidalSince98 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Out front combined with our corners is a ridiculous combination 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhartonJet Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Getting pressure with just the front four was the hallmark of Saleh’s defenses in San Fransisco. We just didn’t have the horses to get that done last year. Good for the coaching staff to stick with their philosophy and believe we would turn a corner even when the results were disastrous last year 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: A side by side comparison of this with pressure rates and QB hits would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: A side by side comparison of this with pressure rates and QB hits would be nice I can't find a QB hit stats, but we are tied for 6th in sacks with 26. Lowest blitz rate and 6th in sacks. I'll take it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvispookie Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 More receipts from Saleh and Co. Here we were weeks ago saying "why is Q going off the field?".. "tired of these player swaps".. Saleh clearly shows again, he might know what he is doing and some of us need to be a little more patient with the plans. Myself included. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: A side by side comparison of this with pressure rates and QB hits would be nice The Jets are 6th in pressure rate with 25.3 and 2nd (42) in QB Knockdown. (Similar to hits but the QB has to hit the ground) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Claymation said: The Jets are 6th in pressure rate with 25.3 and 2nd (42) in QB Knockdown. (Similar to hits but the QB has to hit the ground) That is a huge accomplishment. Their should be an analytic for pressures and QB per 4 man rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Jets are tied at 1st with 73 QB hits 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 They are 2nd in Pass Defended (48) and 2nd in Int (11) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 I’ve noticed that complaints about taking Sauce over an OL, and the DL rotation, have died down quite a bit. 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I think Lawson deserves a ton of credit. IMO he is still the alpha and maybe if he didn't get hurt last year would not have been such a cluster. Most interesting part to me is that the Jets and Giants are both doing shockingly well, but are at the opposite ends of this spectrum. I think people complaining about blitzing or that Rex got figured out have it wrong. There are multiple ways to get to where you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: That is a huge accomplishment. Their should be an analytic for pressures and QB per 4 man rush. and to think how we killed Saleh last year about the defense. no pass rush, why isnt he letting QW and others get 90% of the snaps instead of half that. guess Saleh needed a whole year to get these guys to buy into this style. i think getting Alexander helped too since he played for Saleh and knows this type of defense works. reminds me of when Parcells and Rex would say you have to bring some of your guys with you to a new team to tell/show the other guys that this new style your going to play works. Saleh couldn't get Sherman or anybody on defense to relay that last year. i think a big factor that were overlooking is the DJ Reed complaint about the defense being too complicated after the Bengals game. if you look at the stats our defense especially passing defense improved alot since that game. credit Saleh and the CS for being not stubborn and listening to the players and changing it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Claymation said: Jets are tied at 1st with 73 QB hits Jets social media should add QB hits to this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 We need to trade for Jamal Adams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Man I really need a dunce cap for wanting to fire Ulbrich early this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: There are multiple ways to get to where you want. Well now we just entered into the field of philosophy and theology. Lets pour a beer. Where should we start! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Jets social media should add QB hits to this Maybe they should hire people who know how to search on the internet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Man I really need a dunce cap for wanting to fire Ulbrich early this season. Nah. This is not a normal turnaround at all. This is unbelievable but Jet fans were due for something great to happen to them for once. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Team sack numbers? I think we’re near the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65 Toss Power Trap Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 That's telling. Robert Saleh, Boss-Style. . . . and i was told he sucks . . . oh, and Ulbrich should have been fired by now . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: We need to trade for Jamal Adams. we all need to write Jamal a thank you letter. without him being a dick and forcing his way out we wouldnt have AVT and Garrett Wilson and probably not winning right now. seriously we should do that. it would be so funny. open letter from Jets fans to Jamal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCCH23 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Claymation said: The Jets are 6th in pressure rate with 25.3 and 2nd (42) in QB Knockdown. (Similar to hits but the QB has to hit the ground) Wait, that's still allowed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: I think Lawson deserves a ton of credit. IMO he is still the alpha and maybe if he didn't get hurt last year would not have been such a cluster. Most interesting part to me is that the Jets and Giants are both doing shockingly well, but are at the opposite ends of this spectrum. I think people complaining about blitzing or that Rex got figured out have it wrong. There are multiple ways to get to where you want. The corners make a huge impact too, IMO. Last year it was pretty easy for QB’s to just get the ball out and trust somebody would be open or able to make a play on the ball. Coverage and front complement each other nicely. To me the scariest thing about this defense is they’re not that strong in the middle. Guys in the middle have been solid, but imagine a legit playmaking safety in there along with everything else. It’d be a bit of a luxury add and I think other stuff would have to fall into place to justify it but they’d be just terrifying with a playmaker roaming around the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Man I really need a dunce cap for wanting to fire Ulbrich early this season. You're not the only one. I was right there with you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Claymation said: The Jets are 6th in pressure rate with 25.3 and 2nd (42) in QB Knockdown. (Similar to hits but the QB has to hit the ground) I'd assume that the stats on this don't include the dreaded roughing the passer penalties ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Just an observation: * Zack does much better when not facing the blitz. *Buf doesn't blitz much and it was a W *Chi doesn't blitz much so chances are it will be a W. Go Jets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: Just an observation: * Zack does much better when not facing the blitz. *Buf doesn't blitz much and it was a W *Chi doesn't blitz much so chances are it will be a W. Go Jets! If MiLF calls play that allows Zach to get the ball out quickly as opposed to the slow-ass developing plays he likes to call, Zach and the Jets should be fine. It doesn't hurt that he calls a balanced attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The front four stunts that the DL has been using have really been effective, more so as the season has gone on. IIRC, when the guy double teamed (usually Q) some crashing across the line, the other DL, be it the end or the other tackle, has been taking really tight routes around the collapsed lineman and making a beeline for the QB. You can get gashed with some running plays, but on passing downs, it has been really effective on flushing out the opposing QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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