Bye Week Discussion: Better QB Chad Penning or Kenny O'Brien

[Maxman]

Chad or Kenny, who you got?

[doitny]

im fond of Kenny O. i was a kid back in the 80s and thats when i became a Jet fan. i will never forget that 54-45 OT win vs the Dolphins. those teams, uniforms i loved it all. 

its true what they say about being influenced as a kid. these things mean more that as a 20-30- yr old.

so im bias but for me its Kenny O. i think he had a better career too

[Fantasy Island]

Ken didn't go to the GD Dolphins.  

For the win........

[pajet]

They were both fatally flawed qbs.   OB could make all the throws, but had feet of lead and crumbled in big spots....Penny was Cerebral, knew what he needed to do, but after the injuries, couldn't make the throws he needed to make.   I'll go with OB.  Could make any throw at any time.   I remember that Miami game as a kid too.   Assumed they had lost and fortunately my dad called me in to watch the end after he had already hit Walker a couple of times.  I'll always remember that 85 team....10-1 and all the dline injuries and Ob's implosion.    FU Al McGuire.

[Mario]

It’s a tough one. Both players are pretty similar in the sense they peaked early and then gradually declined. 

The mid 80s Jets were fun to watch on offense and Kotite and Walton did a great job leveraging Kenny’s one super power which was the deep ball.

The 2002 Jets absolutely caught fire on offense down the stretch with Pennington.  Unfortunately they ran into a loaded Raiders team in the playoffs. 

It’s tough but I picked Pennington. Overall I just thought he was better. OBrien used to drive me nuts with the sacks and turnovers. 

I do think the 85-86 Jets would have been unstoppable playing today. 

[static14]

Before the injuries Chad was.

[ACourseinMiracles]

If only we had Chad O Brien. 

I vote Kenny, too, for the same age influence/bias reason as stated above.

That Dolphin games was magic.

[Warfish]

Ken was the better QB.

Chad was the smarter QB.

[SuicidalSince98]

They both only had one good season 

[Augustiniak]

Kenny O.  Better arm.

[Biggs]

Lets combine them and make a statue with a noodle arm. 

[More Cowbell]

Kenny was able to play complete seasons. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

Chad got screwed by Favre . He was also better than Kenny .

[TuscanyTile2]

I know Maxman's answer

[JetsFanatic]

Pennington, when healthy, was the better QB. With all the talent O’Brien had around him, he never won a post season game. O’Brien was a statue, he had No football instincts. O’Brien would throw the ball away on 4th down rather than run for it. I would take Pennington anytime over Kenny.

[frankiepapa]

Richard F'n Todd... write in vote

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[Dunnie]

Chad or Kenny, who you got?

Loved both .. Super tough .. but I'll take OBrien ... Far better arm especially compared to post wrist/shoulder-less Penny.

But Pennny's accuracy was special. And his leadership was better too.

This game though .. did Penny ever throw as much in any game ??

479 yards in the air. Let that sink in.

[Barry McCockinner]

pre-injury Pennington (short lived)

post-injury, KOB

[the Claw]

As much as I liked KOB, he never did much besides set some individual records and play in a few playoff games which they lost. At least Chad doubled the amount of playoff games and at least won a couple. 
 

But this is really like asking which flavor of tripe you prefer. 

[TuscanyTile2]

8 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Loved both .. Super tough .. but I'll take OB ... Far better arm especially compared to post wrist/shoulder-less Penny.

But Pennny's accuracy was special.

This game was though .. did Penny ever throw as much in any game ??

 

Thank you, Ken O'Brien!  Thank you!

[TuscanyTile2]

9 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

But Pennny's accuracy was special.

You're bragging about his accuracy on 2 yard passes?

[GKnight83]

Two different styles - Game Manager vs Gunslinger

[Dunnie]

You're bragging about his accuracy on 2 yard passes?

I took OB. .. but your point is not lost on me.

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[Jet Nut]

KO attacked opponents, pushed the ball downfield.  Chad was a dink and dunk QB for a lot of his career.

[Dunnie]

Two different styles - Game Manager vs Gunslinger

Yup ... Arm talent contributes way more to my enjoyment of the game ... Trent Dilfer vs Jeff George .. both undesirable... But I'd take George every time. And perhaps that would help explain my closet bereft of Super Bowl trophies.

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[SuicidalSince98]

23 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Loved both .. Super tough .. but I'll take OB ... Far better arm especially compared to post wrist/shoulder-less Penny.

But Pennny's accuracy was special. And his leadership was better too.

This game though .. did Penny ever throw as much in any game ??

479 yards in the air. Let that sink in.





 

“Pennys” accuracy was not special. He dinked and dunked his way to 60%

[doitny]

52 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Loved both .. Super tough .. but I'll take OBrien ... Far better arm especially compared to post wrist/shoulder-less Penny.

But Pennny's accuracy was special. And his leadership was better too.

This game though .. did Penny ever throw as much in any game ??

479 yards in the air. Let that sink in.






 

this was the most exciting Jet game i ever saw. the ups and downs and then beating that SOB Marino and the Dolphins was a great feeling. Walker had a monster day too. 

for all you guys too young or not even born yet this win felt just as great as beating Brady and the Pats. 

they were are most hated rivals back then. but unlike the Pats we actually beat them alot. in fact i think we were tied or close too it in the O Brien- Marino ERAs. 

those 80s team were good. our offense was loaded. McNeil, Walker, Toon, Shuler.... we should have won more than we did

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Biggs said:

Lets combine them and make a statue with a noodle arm. 

Could we maybe get the Smart Mind/Accuracy with a Bazooka Arm Combo instead?

[Larz]

The biggest problem fans had with Kenny O is that he wasn’t Marino obviously. I loved watching those teams. One eye Walker made me a jets fan. 

[SuicidalSince98]

@warfish which multiple good seasons did they have? Stats don’t lie right? 

[Zachtomims47]

I started following the Jets when Chad was drafted. Didn't take long for me to experience what being a Jet fan was like when his injuries piled on. He was so smooth with his throws and his play action was a beauty. Looking back at the highlights, it looks like the most catchable balls a WR can get. 

So for that, I go with Noodle Arm Chad!! Always and forever. 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

7 hours ago, pajet said:

They were both fatally flawed qbs.   OB could make all the throws, but had feet of lead and crumbled in big spots....Penny was Cerebral, knew what he needed to do, but after the injuries, couldn't make the throws he needed to make.   I'll go with OB.  Could make any throw at any time.   I remember that Miami game as a kid too.   Assumed they had lost and fortunately my dad called me in to watch the end after he had already hit Walker a couple of times.  I'll always remember that 85 team....10-1 and all the dline injuries and Ob's implosion.    FU Al McGuire.

You are talking about the 86 Jets and Paul Mcguire.  Al McGuire was the Marquette hoops coach.  

[Joe W. Namath]

Pennington and it wasnt close.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

8 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

Ken didn't go to the GD Dolphins.  

For the win........

Pennington didn't "go to the Dolphins."  He was released by the Jets when they acquired Favre and the Dolphins offered him a contract.  Pennington then went on to win the division in Miami, beating Favre and the Jets in the last game to do so.  It was the Jets who left Pennington, not Pennington who left the Jets.  

[JetPotato]

Kenny O, and it's not even close.

Ken could lift the team up on his shoulders and win a game on occasion. Chad never could. He was good at not losing, but he never won. The gap in arm strength was also enormous.