jetstream23 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 They expect us to rush which is why the Jets may come out looking to pass. But Belichick knows this so we trick the Patriots into thinking we will pass because they expect us to rush, and then outsmart Belichick ....by rushing anyway. Zach Wilson also has a very, very high completion percentage on handoffs. So we've got that going for us... which is nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: They expect us to rush which is why the Jets may come out looking to pass. But Belichick knows this so we trick the Patriots into thinking we will pass because they expect us to rush, and then outsmart Belichick ....by rushing anyway. Zach Wilson also has a very, very high completion percentage on handoffs. So we've got that going for us... which is nice. First play of the game will be a draw, which really is a play action run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: First play of the game will be a draw, which really is a play action run. Yeah, but that’s what they THINK we’ll do so we should prepare to do the opposite, but then still actually do the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Yeah, but that’s what they THINK we’ll do so we should prepare to do the opposite, but then still actually do the draw. Or, even better, a fake trick play that’s really just a normal play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Warfish said: Hate me if you like, but I think if we have to rely on the passing game to win, we're going to get curbstomped. Zach so far is best when he's playing not to lose it for his Defense and rushing game. Guess you missed the 4th quarter play in Pitt ? Zach's best play comes when he has time to throw and not running for his life like a chicken without a head. The OLine has to step up. Edited November 17, 2022 by Dunnie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 the bellichicken will take away whatever the jets do best. right now it looks like the jets run better than pass so the jets will need lots of play action in their passing game. they will also need to have more quick passes. and i think they will need to have a te chip off judah before going out for a pass. what the jets can't do is let wilson run around too much much while trying to make that deeper throw. just move the chains. and they will need to run if only to keep beating on the patsies dline players. no turnovers and don't let the patsie offense play on a short field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: Or, even better, a fake trick play that’s really just a normal play. I think they should run a Philly Special on the first play but Berrios throws it 50 yards in the air to Zach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: Guess you missed the 4th quarter play in Pitt ? Zach's best play comes when he has time to throw and not running for his life like a chicken without a head. The OLine has to step up. Zach running like a headless chicken isn't always the OLs fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 59 minutes ago, rangerous said: the bellichicken will take away whatever the jets do best. right now it looks like the jets run better than pass so the jets will need lots of play action in their passing game. they will also need to have more quick passes. and i think they will need to have a te chip off judah before going out for a pass. what the jets can't do is let wilson run around too much much while trying to make that deeper throw. just move the chains. and they will need to run if only to keep beating on the patsies dline players. no turnovers and don't let the patsie offense play on a short field. Yes. I also wonder if the jets will start using moore and berrios in the run / short passing game to mix it all up. One thing i believe is that the jets coaches do not want wilson standing back there improvising. This will be a very tight offensive game plan to minimize mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The final drive of the BUF game should be fresh in everyone's mind: - Score tied at 17 with 8 minutes left - The Jets are backed up at their own 5 yard line If BUF gets a three and out the Jets probably lose the game. What did they do? Run the ball EIGHT straight times, chew up 6+ minutes of clock and kick the game winning FG. BUF defense is superior to NE, the OLine "snatched their soul" when it counted. No need to change strategy now, ride the OLine and RBs. If NE sells out to stop it that should open up easy "pitch & catch" passing lanes via play action and RPO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I believe the Jets will be run dominant once again. It will be Zack's job to read the defense and adjust as necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, KRL said: No need to change strategy now, ride the OLine and RBs. If NE sells out to stop it that should open up easy "pitch & catch" passing lanes via play action and RPO A good time to reintroduce this guy into the game plan! 8 targets - 6 catches - 67 yards & TD Zach = 17/25 162 yds 1 TD & 1 INT RB Committee: 35/148 yds 2 TD Jets win 27- 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 O line must impose their will on NE just like they did against Buffalo. Run the dam ball as It will minimize the possibility of Judon ruining the game plan given his pass rushing abilities. And an even bigger issue is stop them on freaking third down. Last time Jets played NE there were far to many third and longs which they converted keeping drives alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: Guess you missed the 4th quarter play in Pitt ? No, I saw it. I'm far less in awe of it than many of you, the mythmaking already in place of "...But Pittsburgh!" is a bit much IMO. 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: Zach's best play comes when he has time to throw and not running for his life like a chicken without a head. The OLine has to step up. I get it, it's always everyone else's fault Zach underperforms as a passer. Not a new tune in Jets fan land, been hearing it for years about several QB's. None of whom had as good a roster around them as this one. Guess it's easier than admitting Zach holds the ball way too long and has generally poor (so far) field vision, resulting in his backfield tango we have seen so much of this year (although, in his defense, much less of it vs. Buffalo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/16/2022 at 8:48 AM, Jetsfan80 said: Cop out answer is to say balance is the key. But we should be able to move the ball on the ground in this one. NE doesn't allow many rushing TDs (4 on the season) but between the 20s you can run it. They're allowing 4.7 YPC (t-22nd). During the great Giants teams of Parcells, the opposing teams knew that the run was coming. They knew who was going to run it, and they still couldn't stop it. That is my hope. I would love for the Pats to know who will run it and when, and still we run it with ease. Wouldn't that just frustrate the living daylights out of the Pats? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Two things in our favor. The first game, we had just lost Breece Hall, the focal point of our offense, and had just brought James Robinsons in a few days prior to the game. Robinsons had like 2 or 3 carries. He had no clue of our playbook, beyond a few scripted plays. Now, Robinsons has been with the team 3 weeks and contributed nicely in the Bills game, along with MC2. Plus the bye week for Robinson to get even more acclimated. Our run game this game should be night and day better than game 1. Second, the Bills game. Zack/LeFleur hit on something, the short quick pass game to the TEs and Garrett Wilson. Worked like magic. Expect this newfound formula to be alive and well in our rematch in NE. Also expect Moore in the slot and Mims on the edge to be more involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Or, even better, a fake trick play that’s really just a normal play. The ole Statue of Liberty.... but then we pull the Eiffel Tower! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Does anyone know which uniforms they're wearing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 If their first play isn’t a fake punt I’ll be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Run the football. I don’t expect the Pats to do much against the Jets D. Keep it close, pound the rock and dominate the 4th qtr like they have most of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Run the goddam ball. The Pats want to take it away and if we can do it, we can break them right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I think they should be able to run. Imagine Belichick wants to take it away. But I do think Garrett Wilson is playing well enough I wonder if he may focus on taking him away. I think spam whatever the Pats give you between those two and have a plan to get the TE’s and WR’s who requested trades involved if they take both away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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