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[jetstream23]

46 minutes ago, rillo said:

Yeah, I call BS on this one. 

I can only tell you what I hear from someone who works there.

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Craigslist's revenue per employee: $13,880,000

With just 50 employees, the private company brings in almost $700M annually.

- Danny Strauss

 

[Flea Flicking Frank]

1 hour ago, FootballLove said:

So true. Article written by a former SpaceX leader said Elon can be pleasant one minute, then absolutely beyond brutal the next. I'm not sure but I think Elon not wanting to buy Twitter but then forced into it is playing a part in his taking of heads. I read that on the day of the closing, in a Twitter conference room with all the top Twitter execs, as soon as the closing was finished he pointed across the table and said 'you're all fired', and had security walk some of them out on the spot. Wow. Brutal for sure.

Those top Twitter Execs each, all received golden parachutes that will pay them more than you and I and Max combined will make in our entire careers. They were all also complicit in some serious BS that hurt millions of people and cost thousands of people their jobs. F them, I hope Musk enjoyed firing them, they were all human trash.

[Matt39]

12 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Those top Twitter Execs each, all received golden parachutes that will pay them more than you and I and Max combined will make in our entire careers. They were all also complicit in some serious BS that hurt millions of people and cost thousands of people their jobs. F them, I hope Musk enjoyed firing them, they were all human trash.

 

[Ruby2]

2 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Nobody is upset with him over firing people, or at least very few people are upset with him over that. Nobody is screaming about Zuckerberg firing a huge amount of his staff. People are upset with him because he has removed the complete and utter bias that was once an integral part of Twitter. At one point, Musk was a hero to most of those same people

He should just go for it all and start making gas powered cars. Hes come so far, might as well finish the deal and really cause some chaos.

[Flea Flicking Frank]

4 minutes ago, Ruby2 said:

He should just go for it all and start making gas powered cars. Hes come so far, might as well finish the deal and really cause some chaos.

I have no beef with electric cars, but I do have a big beef with the fact that they are pushed as some world saving instrument. If you really look into the battery manufacturing, and the after life of the battery, as well as understand the majority of charging is still coming from coal, an argument can actually be made they are every bit as bad for the environment as gas cars are. Teslas are cool cars, the autopilot is amazing and the lack of a geared transmission is also amazing

[Hex]

52 minutes ago, Ruby2 said:

He should just go for it all and start making gas powered cars. Hes come so far, might as well finish the deal and really cause some chaos.

Diesel Teslas lol that would be super funny

[Lot K Tailgaters]

4 hours ago, Maxman said:

Musk is not laughing right now. He is being laughed at. This is not how he thought it would go at all.

42billion isn't a pet project. He didn't buy MySpace for 70mm and try to turn it around. He bought Twitter.

I read somewhere that he may be content to take a loss on Twitter whether he sells at a loss or it goes belly up.  He can use the losses to offset any capital gains from selling shares of Tesla.  

[T0mShane]

This could all be solved by any one (1) A-list celebrity firing off a DM to tell Elon that he is very cool and edgy and would absolutely be welcomed into the blue-check A-lister celeb fraternity. Do the deed, George Clooney.

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

This could all be solved by any one (1) A-list celebrity firing off a DM to tell Elon that he is very cool and edgy and would absolutely be welcomed into the blue-check A-lister celeb fraternity. Do the deed, George Clooney.

Maybe that'll work for Elon but look at how it negatively affected Howard Stern when Jimmy Kimmel took him into the celebrity fold.  

[Xtina]

11 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

I don’t think Elon bought Twitter to make money on it 

He owes people a lot of money for it and is expected to pay it back 

[Xtina]

9 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Do people realize that the richest man on the planet can lose $45 billion dollars and STILL be the richest man on the planet?

Do people realize that Elon Musk is having the time of his life owning the fourth most visited site on the planet? This is a pet project that may or may not turn a profit, but based on how much attention he is getting, he is winning this either way. 

And keeps dumping tesla stock to help pay for it 

[slimjasi]

21 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I would say I'm surprised people actually believe Twitter is going down but then I still see people driving around by themselves wearing a mask.

One of my favorite posts in a good while

well done

[Xtina]

6 hours ago, BeaconJet said:

For all the people worried about freedom of speech, Musk just announced the following and that Kathie Griffin, Jordan Peterson and Babylon Bee have been reinstated, and decision on Trump is pending. Granted, trying to define negative/hate tweets is in part what caused this whole thing. 

This is pretty fascinating to follow. They'll be using this as a case study in business classes before long, for better or worse.

However, he permanently banned his ex-girlfriend. Only cost him $44B

[Xtina]

59 minutes ago, Lot K Tailgaters said:

I read somewhere that he may be content to take a loss on Twitter whether he sells at a loss or it goes belly up.  He can use the losses to offset any capital gains from selling shares of Tesla.  

He only sold Tesla shares to prop up Twitter so if he hadn’t bought Twitter he wouldn’t have had to sell Tesla shares and wouldn’t have had any capital gains   Circular logic at its finest 

[Lot K Tailgaters]

12 minutes ago, Xtina said:

He only sold Tesla shares to prop up Twitter so if he hadn’t bought Twitter he wouldn’t have had to sell Tesla shares and wouldn’t have had any capital gains   Circular logic at its finest 

I should have added this was shares in the future not the ones he already sold to make the purchase.  

[Maxman]

6 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Nobody is upset with him over firing people, or at least very few people are upset with him over that. Nobody is screaming about Zuckerberg firing a huge amount of his staff. People are upset with him because he has removed the complete and utter bias that was once an integral part of Twitter. At one point, Musk was a hero to most of those same people

You speak in 100% terms. I couldn't care less about politics. I am an Elon Musk fan. I am upset with his lack of human compassion. A lot of people feel the same way.

[tfine]

I am a fan of Elon Musk. He is a pioneer. At least he is doing things that will advance mankind. Same cannot be said for Bezos or Zuckerberg. If I were him I’d pull the plug on Twitter. Social media is the worst thing to ever happen.


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[Maxman]

5 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

Possible, but with contractors I just don't think that's necessarily the case that you need thousands of people.  Craigslist has ~50 employees and does almost $1 Billion in revenue.

Craiglist is a bit of an exception. it is a text site lol. Amazing what they have done but that guy is still answering support calls from crying out loud,. 

[92ShaunEllis92]

6 hours ago, FootballLove said:

So true. Article written by a former SpaceX leader said Elon can be pleasant one minute, then absolutely beyond brutal the next. I'm not sure but I think Elon not wanting to buy Twitter but then forced into it is playing a part in his taking of heads. I read that on the day of the closing, in a Twitter conference room with all the top Twitter execs, as soon as the closing was finished he pointed across the table and said 'you're all fired', and had security walk some of them out on the spot. Wow. Brutal for sure.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It’s effective in communicating that the BS stops immediately and it’s time to be lean and efficient. It’s business in a capitalist society. 
 

Still more humane than Pooh’s world:

Poor old man - Hu Jintao - hasn’t been seen since. 

lol 😆 

[92ShaunEllis92]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

This could all be solved by any one (1) A-list celebrity firing off a DM to tell Elon that he is very cool and edgy and would absolutely be welcomed into the blue-check A-lister celeb fraternity. Do the deed, George Clooney.

Lol @ George Clooney as your celebrity A lister who’s word will move mountains and stir souls to change in human nature by validating a social media platform.  Lol. Good one. 

[Maxman]

6 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

I don’t know Max. He does seem to be enjoying himself! 

I think he bought Twitter to employ the existing infrastructure to make it something more than it’s current format. I think his interpretation of free speech differs from the “Beltway” It’s either 100% free or it’s not. 

This could be similar to Bill Gates purchasing and obscure OS to sell in IBM PC’s

Microsoft's big break came in 1980, when IBM Corp. decided to move into personal computers and asked Microsoft to provide the operating system. Gates and company didn't invent the operating system. To meet IBM's needs, they spent $50,000 to buy one known as QDOS from another programmer, Tim Paterson.

He definitely has big plans for it, he hasn't been secretive about any of that.  I am a huge fan of the guy but if you want to make Twitter the American WeChat he isn't off to a good start. Advertisers pausing ads, it isn't really inspiring confidence which is needed if Twitter is going to be a payment gateway.

 

I own a digital marketing company and our social media people manage budgets for a bunch of companies. I always thought Twitter was insane for not following Google's money model. You have $50 to spend? Sure, we will take it.  Google Ads dominated because anyone could get a return on investment on a $200 ad.

Twitter's pricing structure was crazy. I spoke to YES Network years ago and they showed me a quote that Twitter gave them. They out priced themselves by a wide margin for a leading sports network.  I would fix twitter with small subscription stuff and improved tweet boosting.

The $20 a month plan for Twitter Blue went out the window when people balked and it became $8 a month. They promised more engagement, priority placement. And all these developers leaving are without a doubt impacting that. I am a stat nerd, we bought the Twitter Blue check for @JetNation because the old Twitter wouldn't verify us. So far there is absolutely no benefit.

He should have fired half the staff in a less dramatic way. Then lead the rest and have a $20 a month Twitter Blue launch that actually did what they promised.

He is botching this.

 

[Maxman]

5 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Those top Twitter Execs each, all received golden parachutes that will pay them more than you and I and Max combined will make in our entire careers. They were all also complicit in some serious BS that hurt millions of people and cost thousands of people their jobs. F them, I hope Musk enjoyed firing them, they were all human trash.

I was close to agreeing with you but man you speak in definitives lol.

I don't know ALL of them. So I can't agree that they are all trash.

Layoffs needed to happen without a doubt. It was a broken system, and needed to be fixed for sure.

[Maxman]

6 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

I understand what you are saying, and I don't disagree one bit about compassion.

That said, Twitter was in bad need of a culture change, and large amounts of the staff who are now gone, were revolting against him before he even took over the company because they knew that it meant that the bias they enjoyed so much was gone. 

There were many attempted revolts inside the company and tried to rally support against Musk. Can't do that in corporate America and expect to get away with it

Okay I read the posts backwards in this thread. I always do that but shouldn't.

This post I agree with 100%.

[Maxman]

4 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

I have no beef with electric cars, but I do have a big beef with the fact that they are pushed as some world saving instrument. If you really look into the battery manufacturing, and the after life of the battery, as well as understand the majority of charging is still coming from coal, an argument can actually be made they are every bit as bad for the environment as gas cars are. Teslas are cool cars, the autopilot is amazing and the lack of a geared transmission is also amazing

A Tesla is my dream car. I actually don't care about it being electric. They are so smooth though and fast.

I want to get a Tesla and win every 0 to 60 race at street lights on the highway. 

I pulled up next to a Tesla last year and I took him off the line. Only because he didn't realize I was going to floor it and I got out in front.

Unfortunately we both ended up next to each other at the next light. Damn, what happened there wasn't pretty. That guys Tesla was a rocket ship off the line.

[Barry McCockinner]

6 hours ago, rillo said:

Yeah, I call BS on this one. 

Why? Are you in the software industry? As a seasoned dev I don't think it sounds unreasonable but I don't know all the ins and outs of what they're doing.

[Lot K Tailgaters]

2 hours ago, Maxman said:

You speak in 100% terms. I couldn't care less about politics. I am an Elon Musk fan. I am upset with his lack of human compassion. A lot of people feel the same way.

I’m not a fan of Elon Musk because I feel that he manipulates the price of Tesla stock by saying all kinds of different things. 
 

I think his biggest problem is he has Asperger’s which I feel impacts his communication skills.  He also IMO has some other things going on as well.  

[GreenFish]

2 hours ago, Maxman said:

A Tesla is my dream car. I actually don't care about it being electric. They are so smooth though and fast.

I want to get a Tesla and win every 0 to 60 race at street lights on the highway. 

I pulled up next to a Tesla last year and I took him off the line. Only because he didn't realize I was going to floor it and I got out in front.

Unfortunately we both ended up next to each other at the next light. Damn, what happened there wasn't pretty. That guys Tesla was a rocket ship off the line.

Must have put it on the ludicrous mode. Those things accelerate so fast. It’s crazy.

[Larz]

A giant purge, tons of publicity, then a rebuild ?

that’s all I got lol

[FootballLove]

8 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Those top Twitter Execs each, all received golden parachutes that will pay them more than you and I and Max combined will make in our entire careers. They were all also complicit in some serious BS that hurt millions of people and cost thousands of people their jobs. F them, I hope Musk enjoyed firing them, they were all human trash.

I read Musk may claim he fired them for cause and may use this to NOT pay them their golden parachutes. He also fired a ton of workers the day before their stock options came due. Ouch.

[Maxman]

2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Why? Are you in the software industry? As a seasoned dev I don't think it sounds unreasonable but I don't know all the ins and outs of what they're doing.

You are a developer?  WHY HAVE I BEEN TAKING FINANCIAL ADVICE FROM YOU>?????!!!!>??????

@RutgersJetFan why didn't you warn me? I feel violated. 

[Maxman]

38 minutes ago, Larz said:

A giant purge, tons of publicity, then a rebuild ?

that’s all I got lol

Wait, he is following the Jets model?

[Maxman]

1 hour ago, Lot K Tailgaters said:

I’m not a fan of Elon Musk because I feel that he manipulates the price of Tesla stock by saying all kinds of different things. 
 

I think his biggest problem is he has Asperger’s which I feel impacts his communication skills.  He also IMO has some other things going on as well.  

I have dealt with that professionally. It is tough, some people say things and have no ability to understand how the words sound to others.

Suck it up butter cup is the response, sure. But when someone is leading a company and real lives are at stake it is a brutal situation. Been there and it is a nightmare at times honestly.  

[Fantasy Island]

Elon Musk= Tobias Whale = Kingpin

 

[Xtina]

12 hours ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Nobody is upset with him over firing people, or at least very few people are upset with him over that. Nobody is screaming about Zuckerberg firing a huge amount of his staff. People are upset with him because he has removed the complete and utter bias that was once an integral part of Twitter. At one point, Musk was a hero to most of those same people

No, that is what YOU think. You are not upset that thousands of people have lost their jobs to make a point. If the remaining employees are now required to work 80 he weeks, clearly the firees weren’t dead weight. YOU believe there was utter bias which has now been removed. You are projecting your own beliefs onto 100% of the population as if your beliefs represent everyone else’s. 

[Xtina]

10 hours ago, undertow said:

Because like everything else these days people inject their politics into everything and because Musk wants an open platform he's viewed as a threat to democracy or allowing "hate speech" by the freakazoids.....he's the new Trump for the sh*tlibs. 

Maybe the illegal visa overstaying genius with a purchased Wharton undergrad degree should have just started his own “open platform”