JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Smh 2 of these 6 historically bad performances in franchise history have been by Zach Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jNYC1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Calling all “MILFs with Mono”… Any “MILFs with Mono” that can help us out with this Zach situation?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Trade his ass after the season, open the pocket book up and go get Lamar Jackson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, BurntDice said: The hard part of the schedule when it comes to defenses is over. Going by ppg against ranking Bears - 28 Vikings - 20 Bills - 4 Lions - 32 Jags - 14 Seahawks - 23 Dolphins - 22 Zach SHOULD start to get into a groove in the coming games. If he plays like sh*t these next 2 weeks then bench his ass. Lol this theory is ridiculous. Can’t blame his overthrown missed dinks n dunks on the opposing team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, RJIII said: Trade his ass after the season, open the pocket book up and go get Lamar Jackson. Trade him for 7th rounder ? Lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Trade him for 7th rounder ? Lol * Conditional 7th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yikes fellas. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, BurntDice said: The hard part of the schedule when it comes to defenses is over. Going by ppg against ranking Bears - 28 Vikings - 20 Bills - 4 Lions - 32 Jags - 14 Seahawks - 23 Dolphins - 22 Zach SHOULD start to get into a groove in the coming games. If he plays like sh*t these next 2 weeks then bench his ass. I know this will be an unpopular addition, but NE happen to be better than all of these defenses in ppg against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jamesr Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: 9-22 77 yards..... Also our leading rusher ... (No idea why the image is posting twice ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan4life90 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I don't know anymore. I just know with even an average QB, we're AT LEAST 8-2. This can be a legit Super Bowl contending team with even a bit better QB play. Wilson is holding this team back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSY14 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, jamesr said: Also our leading rusher ... (No idea why the image is posting twice ...) He should of ran it more like Justin Fields.. maybe we would of won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 My option isn't there, so I went with bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I'd sit him, for both his good and that of the team. The players know they have a good team that is being held back by inferior QB play. With even solid QB play, the Jets win at least one of the Pats' games - quite possibly both - rather than being swept by the evil empire. The players can smell the playoffs, but they know the smell is getting more faint. The D is playing well enough to make the playoffs, and you can understand why they are getting frustrated. It appears that, increasingly, the WRs are getting frustrated too. If they go on like this, the team will splinter and that won't be good for anyone. Sit Zach for a week at least, and let Mike White show what he's capable of. There's too much to lose by not making a change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, STLuLu said: Trade him to the Raiders for Derrick Carr The Raiders just extended Derek Carr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, bla bla bla said: This is my thinking as well. You play Zach to give him the chance to rebound against the easy part of the schedule. White and Flacco are not QBs of the future. He needs to look good against the Bears. His play has been bad. The snobby locker room/post game comments are the part that really erk me though. So he goes out and balls out against the basement of the nfl he is the franchise qb again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, oatmeal said: So he goes out and balls out against the basement of the nfl he is the franchise qb again? Nobody is saying that. Look I am disgusted by his performance against the Pats but what do you propose they do say “Zach you’re done with the Jets and we’re going with Mike White even though he isn’t here past next year”? We have to at least give him more games and if he sucks like he did today then at least we know definitively that we need a QB next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: Any completions today were all to the sideline i didnt even realize that to you just said it. good point. this makes me even more mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The poll options are pretty poor. Why can't the Jets keep starting him for now and re-evaulate after a couple of games against non-BB defenses? Saleh isn't going to start a QB controversy unless he seriously prepared to move on from ZW. I can't see that happening this year unless ZW continues like this (which I don't expect he will). I don't think the team takes MW seriously. JiFlacco is washed. And "The Strev" is a glorified CFL QB (my comment yesterday that "I owe an apology to Strev" was meant as a shot at Zach's play yesterday, NOT as a compliment to Strev, who svcks). We all know that good QBs "find a way", even when the chips are down. This team has had plenty of "the chips are down" moments (injuries, OL, tough defenses, etc) and ZW has mostly failed those tests (despite the team winning). He's mostly been a passenger on this ride and yesterday's performance was downright pathetic. But finally we're getting to the portion of the schedule where things will be a little easier for him. Now we get to see if he can succeed when conditions are more favorable. I fully expect him to play a little better against the lower ranked defenses. MLF needs to stop neutering him though. Let him throw the ball around like a real NFL QB would. If he throws INTs and we lose games then we're just going to have to live with that. The "neuter the QB" approach is going to cause a revolt in the locker room. Eli Moore lost it a few weeks ago, even when we were winning. But after yesterday's game, it feels like major fractures are starting to show (JFM liking a tweet criticizing ZW, GW expressing frustration, etc). The NFL is a "big boy league". ZW has started 20 games now. The coddling needs to stop. Sink or swim. ZW has talent but at the trajectory he's on, things don't look good. And with the defense we have right now that's a true shame. Our best hope is that Zach can "get right" against the "easier" (I put in quotes because you never know) portion of our schedule and gain some confidence for the stretch run. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 As much as I would like to put Zach Wilson on the next rocket ship to the moon, you have to start him this week on a short leash. You cant ask him to go, GB, NE x2 and Buffalo 4 games straight and then stick Mike White in vs. a team that is tanking. If there was ever a game for Zach Wilson to shut the haters up and prove he belongs, it's this game. I wouldnt put a penny on it happening but if you're the Jets, this has to be the decision. The Bears are the worst team in Football, if Zach cant put up a competent stat line and show he belongs, then it's time to bench him but I dont think you do it going into this game. I think you let him start and if he continues to be atrocious, you tell him at half, we're giving Mike the 2nd half to see if he can give us a spark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: JiFlacco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Lith said: I said bench him. But I am guessing he will start and have a short leash. Unless it is really bad in the locker room (which it might be), I expect we will hear that Zach is the QB all week, and then he gets pulled if he struggles early. the sad part is that i don't think he will have a short leash at all. he will play the whole game whether he sucks or not. saleh has shown to be a huge pussy in this regard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Bronx said: Zach has already lost the locker room and respect. There is no additional experiment needed. maybe so but how does any fan know? i'm pretty sure a lot of people do not like wilson and blame him for directly for a couple of losses but how does one know without seeing the actual game tape and the plays called? if wilson isn't seeing the open guys then the jets need to think seriously about benching him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Slept on this. The right answer is to bench him now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Coach, develop and support him. Honestly with Davis and Herbig back against the 29th ranked bears defense he’ll likely look totally different he needs theses pressure packed reps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, neckdemon said: the sad part is that i don't think he will have a short leash at all. he will play the whole game whether he sucks or not. saleh has shown to be a huge pussy in this regard Saleh just doesn't want to open up that can of worms unless he's seriously starting to question ZW's chances of making it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodcharlie Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Mystery made up “injury” in practice. This way they don’t have to answer questions about a benching and they can see how the offense does with White or Flacco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 As much as I would like to put Zach Wilson on the next rocket ship to the moon, you have to start him this week on a short leash. You cant ask him to go, GB, NE x2 and Buffalo 4 games straight and then stick Mike White in vs. a team that is tanking. If there was ever a game for Zach Wilson to shut the haters up and prove he belongs, it's this game. I wouldnt put a penny on it happening but if you're the Jets, this has to be the decision. The Bears are the worst team in Football, if Zach cant put up a competent stat line and show he belongs, then it's time to bench him but I dont think you do it going into this game. I think you let him start and if he continues to be atrocious, you tell him at half, we're giving Mike the 2nd half to see if he can give us a spark. Agree here... but if it's halftime and we're down 10-3 and have about 60 yards of offense and Zach has missed 2 or 3 easy throws....benching him is a no brainer... not to say that the alternative is any better but we need a spark... would love for once to see some tempo or hurry upSent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, GangGreen Machine said: After watching the past year and a half, Zach has zero touch on anything up the middle. He is overthrowing, throwing behind on crossers, or one hopping almost every pass between the hashes. There should have been another pic at the end of the first half by, again overthrowing Conklin. Same terrible flat footed mechanics that got him intercepted in the first matchup when going to Conklin. Any completions today were all to the sideline. He does not step up into throws in the pocket whatsoever. Zach didn’t even look towards the middle in the second half. Moore was wide open on a crosser on the final pass to MC. My optimism for Zach is at an all time low today. turnovers over the middle have broke this young man and he has lost all confidence. Time to hold the clipboard I’m afraid. Great take...I was furious with both MLF and Zach. But after seeing some images, Zach just isn't seeing open receivers, or, he's too afraid to throw it and make the mistake. Like you said, Moore was wide open, right in front of his face and he didn't throw it. I think at this point, Zach is hearing, "Don't make the big mistake", so he isn't throwing the ball to guys that are "NFL Open", and he fears throwing it over the middle due to throwing a pick. Zach couldn't hit screen passes, thats not on MLF, what can you draw up when your qb is throwing for 40% and too afraid to use the whole field to make throws? The game is too big for him, too fast, and he's playing scared. His presser was terrible, he said it was windy. Well, you have a howitzer for an arm and the wind was your issue, but Mac Pennington threw for 250 and 80%, whats the answer for that? Is it not going to be windy in the Meadowlands in November and December? Come on man. His play and his complete lack of accountability and how to handle the media make him not long for here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The Raiders just extended Derek Carr. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/#:~:text=Potential Out%3A 2023%2C 1 yr%2C %2425%2C000%2C000%3B %245%2C625%2C000 dead cap&text=%2424.9M guaranteed at signing,Full No Trade Clause Raiders have a potential out after this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: the sad part is that i don't think he will have a short leash at all. he will play the whole game whether he sucks or not. saleh has shown to be a huge pussy in this regard You're probably right, but the crowd in attendance wont have a short leash. His first over throw or three and out, the crowd is going to show their frustrations. This home game will feel like a road game really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I would bench him. They will not. How short of a leash he has will be interesting though. Saleh can’t afford to lose the locker room over Zach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Start him. First time he misses an open receiver or sails a pass, the FIRST and ONLY time, off to the bench. You need to teach him he needs to make EVERY OPEN THROW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time suffering Jets f Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Zach has a bad case of the yips. Looks great in practice, but it doesn’t carry over into the game. I’ve seen enough of the air mail or short hop passes. It’s all in his head. He needs a mental break. Bench him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Give him another start being that it’s a home game and Chicago’s defense is terrible. If he struggles again put White in at halftime. They need to send a message at some point that this isn’t acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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