RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, BurntDice said: I didn’t say he was THE reason for the loss. The defense wasn’t good in the first half. The offense couldn’t put it in the end zone all game. Those are the 2 biggest factors in the loss You implied that if they went 1-2 that would be an indictment on the QB. He could play well in both games and lose both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, maury77 said: Well, you got me there (hating him as a player, I have no legitimate opinion of him as a person). My opinion was based upon everything I saw about Cobra Kai at BYU and literally NOTHING he has done as a pro has made me doubt my original evaluation. Listen Mr. Wilson, I know as parents we all have to defend our children, but I don't think its going to work out for your son in New York. You and your wife should start demanding trades. I don’t have children yet. Don’t scare me like that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 stud. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maury77 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, JiFields said: good, please do, nobody buys your bull sh*t He's Zach Wilson's dad, I'm convinced. I already told @Paradis 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 There is a reason guys run for mega YAC with MW dealing but not with ZW It’s not a coincidence ZW has no sense (or respect) for the rhythm and timing of the play design and just does whatever TF he feels like MW has shown he can throw with timing and anticipation, releasing the ball before guys come out of their breaks and threading the needle on tight window throws 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, maury77 said: He's Zach Wilson's dad, I'm convinced. I already told @Paradis Damn. Now I have to retro-read all his posts with this viewpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: Zach Wilson has had the yips for over a year and the Jets think he is getting over it in three weeks? They think he’ll be more Miami Dolphins/Buffalo Bills Zach Wilson when he does return to the lineup. But I agree with you; it’s something they should’ve been hammering a long time ago. Don’t start the player until he can show a consistent ability to be fundamentally sound within structure. Again none of what I’m saying should be interpreted as me believing it’s all going to pan out the way I hope. I’m on record saying I have a feeling this whole thing is going to blow up in our faces 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, football guy said: They don’t care about what the fans and media think. Saleh has made that very clear Do they care about what the players think because we know who they want to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jolot said: Yea but he has “ connections “ He's either Zach's dad or Chris Simms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: There is a reason guys run for mega YAC with MW dealing but not with ZW It’s not a coincidence ZW has no sense (or respect) for the rhythm and timing of the play design and just does whatever TF he feels like MW has shown he can throw with timing and anticipation, releasing the ball before guys come out of their breaks and threading the needle on tight window throws Yea it’s because white can actually complete passes. Shocking I know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, maury77 said: He's either Zach's dad or Chris Simms. Even Zach's dad knows he sucks. Chris Simms is just trolling for clicks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: Do they care about what the players think because we know who they want to play with. Honestly probably not. I think it got to the point where it was really tense after the NE game and Saleh determined Zach was not in the right headspace. I know Saleh gets the reputation for being a “player’s coach” but he’s actually disciplined as ****. He expects his players to be soldiers and to do their job regardless who the coaches decide to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, maury77 said: He's either Zach's dad or Chris Simms. has some sort of conflict of interest on acct of ZW outcome success or not, or more likely is tight with someone else in the building who does such as in college / pro scouting or player dev or draft decision making 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, football guy said: You “shoved it in my face” lol what a cuck this guy is. I’m sorry you don’t like what I have to say or contribute. People like you are exactly why I constantly reconsider why I even share anything lol… so many of you constantly talk sh*t and make these wild conspiracies about me, yet when what I share comes true you all go into hiding. You can call me whatever you want, but trying to act like I’m inaccurate with my info is just you being an emotional infant who disagrees what I’m sharing Yeah, I'm the cuck? While you run around pretending like you have inside sources that constantly get proven wrong. Do you really want me to start bumping your ridiculous nonsense? Sam wont be traded, if it is to the 49'ers, the Jets are really looking at Kyle Pitts over the QB, oh wait, sorry, no Zach is there guy (after everyone confirms it), lol What was the other, hey were taking Rondale Moore or Toney? lol And those are just off the top of my head! You keep posting your lies, I'll keep pulling down your pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, football guy said: I don’t have children yet. Don’t scare me like that lol So who is Zach's real dad? His mom's twin brother? I never thought of it, but I can see a little Joffrey in Zach. Now this (incest) is the type of inside information I come to this site for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, football guy said: They don’t care about what the fans and media think. Saleh has made that very clear and thats how HCs lose their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, doitny said: and thats how HCs lose their job. in NY media market... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: There is a reason guys run for mega YAC with MW dealing but not with ZW It’s not a coincidence ZW has no sense (or respect) for the rhythm and timing of the play design and just does whatever TF he feels like MW has shown he can throw with timing and anticipation, releasing the ball before guys come out of their breaks and threading the needle on tight window throws This is correct. The hope is that Zach comes out of this humbled and finally fully buys into the offense. The Jets want to see the Zach Wilson against Tampa Bay last year, but with this talent. Miami and Buffalo performances were really good by their standards, but they eliminated most of the YAC plays (aside from Breece Hall). If that Zach Wilson shows up with the offense starting to hum it would put a lot of people at One Jets Drive at ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, JiFields said: Yeah, I'm the cuck? While you run around pretending like I have inside sources that constantly get proven wrong. Do you really want me to start bumping your ridiculous nonsense? Sam wont be traded, if it is to the 49'ers, the Jets are really looking at Kyle Pitts over the QB, oh wait, sorry, no Zach is there guy (after everyone confirms it), lol What was the other, hey were taking Rondale Moore or Toney? lol And those are just off the top of my head! You keep posting your lies, I'll keep pulling down your pants. Don't forget "Zach is prepared to excel in this offense right away". I have a different definition of "right away" or "excel". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, JiFields said: Yeah, I'm the cuck? While you run around pretending like you have inside sources that constantly get proven wrong. Do you really want me to start bumping your ridiculous nonsense? Sam wont be traded, if it is to the 49'ers, the Jets are really looking at Kyle Pitts over the QB, oh wait, sorry, no Zach is there guy (after everyone confirms it), lol What was the other, hey were taking Rondale Moore or Toney? lol And those are just off the top of my head! You keep posting your lies, I'll keep pulling down your pants. I pretend lol. And yes. I picture you as barstool’s frank the tank but less funny. At least that’s how your posts read. Oh and let’s revisit this when Sam signs in SF this offseason lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, football guy said: For Mike White, he won’t be that expensive. Probably a 2-year, $18 million deal with an additional $6 million available in incentives. Even better! JD will get this done. If only Mike Lefleur can progress as an OC. He would get the boot way before Saleh & JD get the boot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, BurntDice said: Yea I was connecting them to show how passing yards aren’t always a great indicator for success. Cousins didn’t have that many passing yards because they were winning all game, while White did. Was cousins bad? I don’t think so but they just didn’t need to pass it that much because they were up the whole game. Flacco had like 900 yards in 3 games. Was he good? Not particularly they were just losing a lot. Well sure, if you remember, I had a running thread tracking how little the Jets were running the ball. So I'm following you on the generalities but I guess all I was trying to say is, they dont have the same running game to rely on as they did when Zach was winning games. So that also dictates play calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, football guy said: Honestly probably not. I think it got to the point where it was really tense after the NE game and Saleh determined Zach was not in the right headspace. I know Saleh gets the reputation for being a “player’s coach” but he’s actually disciplined as ****. He expects his players to be soldiers and to do their job regardless who the coaches decide to play. Well then that would probably be a big mistake because I have never seen the receivers happier that the QB actually can get them the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, maury77 said: Don't forget "Zach is prepared to excel in this offense right away". I have a different definition of "right away" or "excel". None of Zach’s issues have anything to do with his lack of knowledge or preparation in regards to the offense. His issues have been with footwork, fundamentals, injury, and some decisions. Injuries and outside influences have not helped RE: footwork. But go off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, maury77 said: He's Zach Wilson's dad, I'm convinced. I already told @Paradis apparently @celtasnake is his Zach's Uncle because he neg reps any post I make that challenges the genius of the footbally guy w/ the super duper sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, JiFields said: Well sure, if you remember, I had a running thread tracking how little the Jets were running the ball. So I'm following you on the generalities but I guess all I was trying to say is, they dont have the same running game to rely on as they did when Zach was winning games. So that also dictates play calling. It may not be as good, but I’m 21 carries they had a 5 ypc which is pretty damn good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Zach is trash. We’ve had 20 games to evaluate him. He can't handle pressure and his footworks sucks. We’re evaluating Mike White now. Things look promising but we need to let this play out just like we did with Zach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, maury77 said: He's either Zach's dad or Chris Simms. I think you’re giving him way too much credit here. He’s a Schmoe with a schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Things Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jets Things said: I'll happily donate $500 to the charity of your choice if that happens. Will you respond in kind? @football guyDidn't think so. Not as confident as we once were, eh? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, BurntDice said: It may not be as good, but I’m 21 carries they had a 5 ypc which is pretty damn good Bam Knight has been very good while Robinson looks like he is running in quicksand. Next year having Hall, Carter, and Knight would be really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, football guy said: I pretend lol. And yes. I picture you as barstool’s frank the tank but less funny. At least that’s how your posts read. FG… let the JiFields argument go. I remember last season or this past summer you left the board for awhile because you got grief. You don’t have to defend yourself against every person who disagrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, football guy said: I pretend lol. And yes. I picture you as barstool’s frank the tank but less funny. At least that’s how your posts read. Oh and let’s revisit this when Sam signs in SF this offseason lol I dont know what a barstool frank the tank is but if he's tan, toned and handsome, well then yes, I'm am barstool frank the tank. And why would I revisit Sam signing w/ SF after you told us he would be traded there but he was really traded to Carolina? I prefer just you being wrong and staying wrong no matter what happens because, well, you were wrong or at least your pretend sources were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Someone seems cranky that their 'QB God' Justin Fields of the 3-10 Bears lost to a dreadful Packers team while tossing two more interceptions. Quite easy to see why he sneers at other peoples QB comments when he has nailed the hof career of fields so perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, RevisIsland610 said: Well then that would probably be a big mistake because I have never seen the receivers happier that the QB actually can get them the ball. I’m not disagreeing but this is the reality of the situation. Hence why I felt it was a mistake to shut him down in the first-place… don’t get me wrong, his antics postgame really pissed me off and in a perfect world I’m benching him for that alone. But when you consider all the factors, if Saleh let Zach address the team on Monday to clear the air, then play a weak Chicago team you probably quiet a lot of things down both inside and outside the locker room. So what they were trying to avoid (re: dividing the locker room) could actually become a much more real factor. Then again this is just me. Saleh went forward with this because he genuinely felt it was best for Zach and for the team. We’ll see how it plays out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, football guy said: None of Zach’s issues have anything to do with his lack of knowledge or preparation in regards to the offense. His issues have been with footwork, fundamentals, injury, and some decisions. Injuries and outside influences have not helped RE: footwork. But go off I have read that he has anxiety issues and forgets the plays in practice and in games. He also can't process the field quickly enough. Mike White is light years better than him in this respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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