Kirk Cousins Against Pats D

[Greensleeves]

Did everyone notice how Cousins was back pedaling a LOT against the Pats D? Same as Zach except he was able to look up and find guys open as he was moving away from the line of scrimmage. Pats D always seems to get a nice push up the middle and it's not just Zach that can't step up in the pocket. Cousins has more experience so he kept his composure and floated some balls to his open receivers off of his back foot.

[ScarletKnight89]

Back pedaling isn't the end of the world if you can keep your eyes downfield and still hit open receivers. Zach has not shown he is able to do that. He melts when there is pressure.

[The Crusher]

Yeah he sure did. Right before he kicked their asses!

[derp]

Cousins’ reputation is that he’s someone who’s awesome in a clean pocket but doesn’t do well when things break down. Wilson has been a highly exaggerated version of that this year. Not surprising he had similar problems to Wilson against the Pats.

Different looking stat line than either of Wilson’s against NE though with 3 touchdowns, one pick, 299 yards, and one sack taken.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

11 minutes ago, derp said:

Cousins’ reputation is that he’s someone who’s awesome in a clean pocket but doesn’t do well when things break down. Wilson has been a highly exaggerated version of that this year. Not surprising he had similar problems to Wilson against the Pats.

Different looking stat line than either of Wilson’s against NE though with 3 touchdowns, one pick, 299 yards, and one sack taken.

Helps when you have the best WR in the game right now to chuck it to right now.

[derp]

Just now, Jets Voice of Reason said:

Helps when you have the best WR in the game right now to chuck it to right now.

Oh for sure, but I don’t think even Jefferson would make a meaningful difference for Wilson right now.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

Just now, derp said:

Oh for sure, but I don’t think even Jefferson would make a meaningful difference for Wilson right now.

Yeah, would agree there for sure. Kirk Cousins looks like he throws some ugly ass balls, but they're generally accurate and well placed when it gets there, so whatever works.

[CanadaSteve]

27 minutes ago, Greensleeves said:

Did everyone notice how Cousins was back pedaling a LOT against the Pats D? Same as Zach except he was able to look up and find guys open as he was moving away from the line of scrimmage. Pats D always seems to get a nice push up the middle and it's not just Zach that can't step up in the pocket. Cousins has more experience so he kept his composure and floated some balls to his open receivers off of his back foot.

The key to this was Cousins completed the passes rather than sail them over the receivers heads constantly.

[SuicidalSince98]

Floating a ball to Justin’s Jefferson in a dome is a bit easier than to Mims in freezing foxboro with 40 mph winds 

[Gastineau Lives]

1 hour ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

Back pedaling isn't the end of the world if you can keep your eyes downfield and still hit open receivers. Zach has not shown he is able to do that. He melts when there is pressure.

Bingo

[Hex]

Kirk Cousins probably just had his best prime time game ever

[oatmeal]

9 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Floating a ball to Justin’s Jefferson in a dome is a bit easier than to Mims in freezing foxboro with 40 mph winds 

Zach top WR’s could be moss and rice and his scrub a** would see be < 60% competition percentage 

[SuicidalSince98]

2 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

Zach top WR’s could be moss and rice and his scrub a** would see be < 60% competition percentage 

He completed 60% vs the #1 Defense two games ago 

[oatmeal]

2 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

He completed 60% vs the #1 Defense two games ago 

Nice

But what’s his career completion %?

Thank you 

[SuicidalSince98]

Just now, oatmeal said:

Nice

But what’s his career completion %?

Thank you 

Not your original argument

[oatmeal]

1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Not your original argument

 

[Paradis]

30/37 299, 3/1

[Kleckineau]

10 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

He completed 60% vs the #1 Defense two games ago 

24 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Floating a ball to Justin’s Jefferson in a dome is a bit easier than to Mims in freezing foxboro with 40 mph winds 

Thank you Mrs Wilson. We here at JN appreciate your staunch and unwavering defense of your son.

[doitny]

1 hour ago, Jets Voice of Reason said:

Helps when you have the best WR in the game right now to chuck it to right now.

Garrett Wilson isnt chop liver. hes pretty damm good too.

if he had a real QB he would be ROY

[jetspenguin]

Floating a ball to Justin’s Jefferson in a dome is a bit easier than to Mims in freezing foxboro with 40 mph winds 

In the other thread you said it was 35 mph... I guess by Sunday it will be a hurricane lol

Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk.

[Jetsplayer21]

13 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

He completed 60% vs the #1 Defense two games ago 

Many of those completions were for negative yardage ? time to return your number 2 jersey 

[The Crusher]

13 hours ago, oatmeal said:

 

Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel, oh my. 

[GreenFish]

12 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russel, oh my. 

Just as shocking is Chris Simms saying Zach has been doing his job and Jets fans just love to bitch. 

[kevinc855]

13 hours ago, oatmeal said:

 

I like that this video doesn’t just cover New England. Some fans have been making that point. He got benched due to his body of work. He is bad statistically in every category through 20 games. Our QB scouting dept is blind. Just get the proven veteran in FA

[The Crusher]

25 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Just as shocking is Chris Simms saying Zach has been doing his job and Jets fans just love to bitch. 

No it’s not. Simms is a hot take, these comparisons are pretty close to what the numbers say they are. It gets worse if we entertain the thought it’s easier to QB now than it was then. Ooomph!

[Joe W. Namath]

There is 0 comparison btwn a qb who has a 240 td to 100int ratio.  
 

That is a hall of fame caliber ratio.

[Irish Jet]

14 hours ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Floating a ball to Justin’s Jefferson in a dome is a bit easier than to Mims in freezing foxboro with 40 mph winds 

The last time Zach Wilson played in a dome he had:

- 140 passing yards on 24 attempts

- 0 TD’s and 1 INT

- QBR of 9.9.

All againt the worst pass defence in the league in YPA. 

[Dunnie]

14 hours ago, oatmeal said:

Zach top WR’s could be moss and rice and his scrub a** would see be < 60% competition percentage 

Why do you feel the need to do this ... after 100 posts doesn't it get tiring ?

[THE BARON]

After the snap and during the pass rush, Cousin's attention and reactive though process is focused on what he observed and processed before the snap.  The play call, the way the defense was lining up and how that defensive set impacted the way the play call was going to develop from the moment the ball was snapped.  Like all good NFL level QB's, Cousins starts throwing the ball before it is in his hands.  When he was back-pedaling, he wasn't just running away.  He was extending his ability to accomplish one of the possible resolutions that he already had in mind before the ball was in his hands.  Then, he made his best choice based on what he saw and how much time he had, and he threw the ball.  Which is to say, he completed a task based on logic, reasoning and observation while maintaining good fundamentals.  

Wilson runs away from the pressure and then ties to make something happen.  He does not maintain observation of the field as the play is developing nor is there any habitual adherence to fundamentals. 

Condense it like this...  Cousins is an NFL QB and ZW plays the position with the mindset of a schoolyard kid.

No rocket science here.   

[Integrity28]

Zach doesn’t backpedal, he turns and runs away. There’s like a HUGE difference.

[oatmeal]

4 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Why do you feel the need to do this ... after 100 posts doesn't it get tiring ?