Do people think Mike White is good?

[Smashmouth]

11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So what do you call your obsession with defending Zach Wilson's league-worst play for 3 months?

Dumb along with this thread

[SuicidalSince98]

7 hours ago, AFJF said:

Says the guy who has been doing nothing but crying since the QB you root for got benched.

You want me to be happy that we blew the #2 pick ?

[JetsYanks13]

Outside of a few NFL Games, what evidence is there that he is good, bad or indifferent? The backup QB is always the most popular player on the team. He had one great game, that’s not enough to crown the guy competent. His game is flawed as all QB’s, some more than others, and I think it’s game to game, matchup to matchup with him. Hopefully, he’s been putting the work in behind the scenes and he comes in and knock’s it out of the park the rest of season, but that’s asking a lot. The biggest thing is how he responds when he needs to bring the team back or add on late in a game. Can he do it mentally/physically? I guess we will find out. Lastly, all posters/fans calling for him to play will be first in line to question the CS for playing him when things get messy.


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[GangGreened]

1 hour ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

You want me to be happy that we blew the #2 pick ?

The Jets have moved on for now. So should you.

[TuscanyTile2]

It's hard to say from his limited time on the filed.  He doesn't seem as "toolsy" as some others (including ZW) but he seems like the kind of QB who can be productive and you can win with.  He also seems to be a guy that his teammates rally around.

I can't wait to see what he does with this chance.  And it has a whole different feeling than last year because, this time, ZW isn't hurt.  They chose to go to Mike White.

[JetsYanks13]

The Jets have moved on for now. So should you.

Disagree, the Jets have given up entirely on Wilson, especially for a PS QB. I think it’s a teachable moment for Zach and a message to the team. Any player can and will be replaced at any given moment. Zach needs to mature and work on his mechanics and I think he will be back under center.


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[JetsYanks13]

Disagree, the Jets have given up entirely on Wilson, especially for a PS QB. I think it’s a teachable moment for Zach and a message to the team. Any player can and will be replaced at any given moment. Zach needs to mature and work on his mechanics and I think he will be back under center.


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*have not given up entirely on Wilson


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[Gastineau Lives]

2 hours ago, AFJF said:

Mike White fans think 3 points and 2 second half yards is not good.  Zach fans disagree.

Jets fans also agree with the Mike White fans.

Thats silly.

[Anthony Jet]

The chances of Mike White being anything more than a body over time are probably equal with the chances of Zach Wilson turning into an elite QB at this time. Just what it is. 
 

That being said, if the team is as good as they looked against the Pats all we need is a body that plays mistake free football

In other words just win baby

[GangGreened]

4 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said:

Disagree, the Jets have given up entirely on Wilson, especially for a PS QB. I think it’s a teachable moment for Zach and a message to the team. Any player can and will be replaced at any given moment. Zach needs to mature and work on his mechanics and I think he will be back under center.


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That’s why I said for now

[Biggs]

I would be much more optimistic if there wasn’t game tape on Mike White.  He had a great game when there wasn’t tape and awful after he put 1 game on tape.   The NFL is all about adjustment.   
 

Baker and Sam as an example. 

[The Crusher]

Hopefully gooder 

[AFJF]

25 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Thats silly.

Sure is.  But here we are.

[GreenFish]

1 hour ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

You want me to be happy that we blew the #2 pick ?

Be unhappy about Zach. Many of us are. Why hate Mike White? 

[Biggs]

Just now, GreenFish said:

Be unhappy about Zach. Many of us are. Why hate Mike White? 

It’s dumb to hate Zach or White for being who they are.  

[SuicidalSince98]

2 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Be unhappy about Zach. Many of us are. Why hate Mike White? 

Where am I hating Mike white? Sorry if I am not delusional about a 28 year old journey man who threw 4 picks last time we saw him. 

[TuscanyTile2]

I feel like the CS didn't trust ZW to play the style of game that he probably would feel more comfortable playing (rolling out and using his big arm to throw downfield) because they were worried about turnovers.  So they kind of neutered ZW and had him do "manage the game" type stuff.  That's just not his game and the embarrassing moments (e.g. airmailing screen passes) proved it.

You don't draft a QB #2 overall to play that style or else Mac Jones would've been the pick.  With those top-of-the-draft picks, you're clearly going to take a "toolsy" QB who you think can make things happen (e.g. Trevor Lawrence, ZW, Trey Lance).

But anyway, for what the CS was asking, MW is far better suited to that style of play. 

[Dunnie]

Mike White is good .. better than most of the country at playing QB.  He is also a 'Good' Guy.   

Yeah Mike White is 'Good'

 

 

[Dunnie]

Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:

I feel like the CS didn't trust ZW to play the style of game that he probably would feel more comfortable playing (rolling out and using his big arm to throw downfield) because they were worried about turnovers.  So they kind of neutered ZW and had him do "manage the game" type stuff.  That's just not his game and the embarrassing moments (e.g. airmailing screen passes) proved it.

You don't draft a QB #2 overall to play that style or else Mac Jones would've been the pick.  With those top-of-the-draft picks, you're clearly going to take a "toolsy" QB who you think can make things happen (e.g. Trevor Lawrence, ZW, Trey Lance).

But anyway, for what the CS was asking, MW is far better suited to that style of play. 

I concur and have been saying the same ... they won a couple games playing it safe with ZW at the expense of his mental approach to the game. Doesn't excuse the bad footwork or inability to throw a consistent screen pass. But yes ...  in essence Castrated the guy.

[The Crusher]

2 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Where am I hating Mike white? Sorry if I am not delusional about a 28 year old journey man who threw 4 picks last time we saw him. 

Fair, I’m not excited for him per se, I’m excited the coaching staff has the balls to bench Zach, didn’t think they did. Kid needs a break, a timeout and the chance to put value on what he had. To be humbled if you would. 
 

Also last time he watched White, Johnson or Flacco run the offense he actually came back and took substantially better care of the ball . Maybe this time he comes back and might learn how to read a damn defense and complete the passes most starting QBs complete. 
 

Mike White gets his chance today against a suspect defense with most likely a back up QB. Simian played for us, went in, got hurt within a couple series against a very good defense. We likely see the third stringer today. Mike White get a win against back ups today , just like most of Zach’s. 

[SuicidalSince98]

2 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Fair, I’m not excited for him per se, I’m excited the coaching staff has the balls to bench Zach, didn’t think they did. Kid needs a break, a timeout and the chance to put value on what he had. To be humbled if you would. 
 

Also last time he watched White, Johnson or Flacco run the offense he actually came back and took substantially better care of the ball . Maybe this time he comes back and might learn how to read a damn defense and complete the passes most starting QBs complete. 
 

Mike White gets his chance today against a suspect defense with most likely a back up QB. Simian played for us, went in, got hurt within a couple series against a very good defense. We likely see the third stringer today. Mike White get a win against back ups today , just like most of Zach’s. 

I hope as much as anyone that Mike white is elite and becomes our QB for a decade. The only backup Wilson faced was Thompson, everyone else was a starter or an upgrade over a terrible starter. He also played elite pass defenses every week. 

[Dunnie]

1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I hope as much as anyone that Mike white is elite and becomes our QB for a decade. The only backup Wilson faced was Thompson, everyone else was a starter or an upgrade over a terrible starter. He also played elite pass defenses every week. 

To be fair .. Mike White is replacing a terrible Starter.   You first have to admit ZW has been playing terrible and steadily getting worse in order to move forward and trust that if ZW's talent is so far superior to MWs  .. then there is no way he does not return and return soon. If it is not ... then we may never see Wilson again.

[TuscanyTile2]

11 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I hope as much as anyone that Mike white is elite and becomes our QB for a decade. The only backup Wilson faced was Thompson, everyone else was a starter or an upgrade over a terrible starter. He also played elite pass defenses every week. 

They did play some great defenses in ZW's games.  Though if we have any hope of deep post-season runs, our QB is going to have to be able to handle playing against great defenses (and ZW didn't really do very much). 

I'm surprised the CS didn't start him against the Bears with their crappy pass defense though, just to see what he would look like.  That they didn't tells me something more serious is going on.  

[The Crusher]

17 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I hope as much as anyone that Mike white is elite and becomes our QB for a decade. The only backup Wilson faced was Thompson, everyone else was a starter or an upgrade over a terrible starter. He also played elite pass defenses every week. 

You’re not allowed to qualify your  bullshit by saying  you think the back up is better then the starter. It’s best we assume you don’t know shit in these discussions. Chances  are Mike White will never be more than a very good back up QB. 

[Mike russo]

Jets drafted a talented strong armed qb at number 2 overall turned him into a boring game manager have 2 highly drafted wide receivers wanting to be trade now have a dink and dunker playing qb who teams are quickly going too adjust to what the hell did they draft all this talent for and one last question what were they planning to do with Ty hill leflleur and calabrese don’t have a clue

[Dunnie]

Jets drafted a talented strong armed qb at number 2 overall turned him into a boring game manager have 2 highly drafted wide receivers wanting to be trade now have a dink and dunker playing qb who teams are quickly going too adjust to what the hell did they draft all this talent for and one last question what were they planning to do with Ty hill leflleur and calabrese don’t have a clue

Never been a calabrese fan

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[GreenFish]

Some notes on Mike White:

- He wanted to be a major league pitcher when he entered HS

- Played only 2 years in HS and excelled which changed his sports career path

- Went to USF and won the QB job. Played 2 seasons before losing his job

- Transferred to Western Kentucky and sat a year

- Played really well for 2 years in an open system

 

Scouting Reports coming out of college from the few I’ve read: Live arm, accurate, throws a catchable ball, needs to learn to read the field, eyes come down when pressured, poor pocket mobility

 

The optimist in me: This is a guy who came to the position late and has been developing. I would have never guessed not being able to scan the field was an issue for him. Same with navigating the pocket. 

[clayton163v]

Is Mike White any good?  We are about to find out. 

I expect MW to attack the edges with screens.

I expect MW to throw and compete Bubble screens.

I expect MW to CRISPLY execute gadget plays like end arounds, shovel passes and reverses.

I expect MW to use successfully use trickery.

I expect MW to freeze linebackers and safeties with play action.

I expect first down after first down.

I expect to win time of possession.

All of it before we cross the line of scrimmage.  This is the MIKE SHANAHAN offense.  Watch any Green Bay game.  They do this stuff all the time.  If I played running back, tight end or WR for the Jets, I would be absolutely drooling over today's game.  It keeps defenses off balance which creates big plays and prevents them from keying on the running game.   It is why we hired Mike LaFleur in the first place.

PSYCHED. 

 

[Jetluv58]

16 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

I've always felt like White is a fringe NFL player who had a bit of a fluke in his limited opportunity last year. I truly hope he proves me wrong.

With that said, it is interesting that Flacco was deactivated a few weeks ago and White was promoted to backup on a team very much in the playoff hunt. One can only assume that he has been impressing in practice and/or the training room otherwise the seasoned vet would have never been demoted from primary backup. With a quarterback like Zach who has a sizable injury history, you don't mess around with the backup position on a playoff contending team unless the guy is really showing something.

Doesn’t White have an injury history? 

[SuicidalSince98]

37 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

You’re not allowed to qualify your  bullsh*t by saying  you think the back up is better then the starter. It’s best we assume you don’t know sh*t in these discussions. Chances  are Mike White will never be more than a very good back up QB. 

Pickett is now the starter, R. Wilson is a shell of himself and not an upgrade from Rypien, Rodgers and Allen are starters. I’m the one who doesn’t know sh*t? 

[TuscanyTile2]

[TuscanyTile2]

[The Crusher]

29 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

Pickett is now the starter, R. Wilson is a shell of himself and not an upgrade from Rypien, Rodgers and Allen are starters. I’m the one who doesn’t know sh*t? 

Just like Zach they were the starters till they weren’t. Rodgers is also a shell of his former self. Allen barely beat the Lions. Yes, you are. Agreed! 

[SuicidalSince98]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

Just like Zach they were the starters till they weren’t. Rodgers is also a shell of his former self. Allen barely beat the Lions. Yes, you are. Agreed! 

So we agree that you are wrong and Wilson faced starters or players that are equivalent to starters. Are you saying Simian (sp) isn’t a downgrade over fields? ******* hilarious how this place holds a double standard for Wilson vs any other QB. 

[The Crusher]

8 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

So we agree that you are wrong and Wilson faced starters or players that are equivalent to starters. Are you saying Simian (sp) isn’t a downgrade over fields? ******* hilarious how this place holds a double standard for Wilson vs any other QB. 

Funny how you think you can paraphrase what some says and then point out it’s incorrect. Wilson is the worse starting QB in NFL, two years running, he set that standard not us.