WhartonJet Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Hopefully this is just coach speak. Zach Wilson shouldn't see the field again this year. Mike White gives us the best chance to win 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The other 52 already have a large body of evidence telling them who the better QB is. That will NEVER change. Fixed for ya, T0m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, FlightBoyz said: Mike White Wins. Mike White Starts. Thats it. Miggy Blanco Cinco Siempre! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Biggs said: Chicago is in full tank mode. Wilson has faced a guantlet of good defensive teams. If Saleh really was all in for Wilson the one game he doesn't bench him is against get right Chicago. We have no idea what Mike White looks like in practice. Most of the roster has only seen him in limited reps with backups or the scout team. The body of evidence on Mike White is very small. In 2 weeks everyone will get to view tape of Mike White and Zach Wilson against Buffalo. There is no doubt the organization hasn't given up on Zach. That doesn't mean they are going to sacrifice a deep playoff run if Mike White is the real deal. The players have most definitely seen what Mike White looks like in practice every day, and that’s going against a top-three defense in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 The only reason to say this is because of egos and feelings. In other words; it's ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Arsis said: Mike White has a 1 year contract no? If plays well the rest of the year I see no reason why he comes back to play for Saleh who is obviously in love with Wilson. we might not be able to sign White. some QB starved team will throw him a nice amount of money to make him their starter. or he can come back here and lose in TC to Zach in some phony competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Biggs said: I don't think they are. I think they love Zach's talent, haven't given up on him and will ride Mike White for years if he's the guy. Too bad that talent isn’t playing QB at the NFL level, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetPotato Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2022 They're words, and they are the right ones. I'm starting to wonder if some of you guys are just as fragile emotionally as #2. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 When will some of you just realize? This is what Conner Hughes does- it’s really all he does near as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I will never be convinced that there isn’t some larger deal in place to protect and preserve Zach Wilson’s tender ego. There’s no way a coach compromises himself or his program like this for a player who is so unquestionably terrible—in all facets—otherwise. Can’t you just enjoy the play of the guy you want to start without looking over you shoulder for Zach’s return? The idea that a HC and GM, both with jobs deeply dependent on Ws & Ls are going to play the lesser of the two just because? Saleh didn’t draft ZW, JD did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I cant believe you guys read into any of this. My plan is to win the lottery in the next few months. We make plans, God laughs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just when I was starting to compliment this guy he says this tomfoolery Grow some balls and just admit Zach doesn't deserve to play QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 It's a weird look but Saleh has been pretty good at pressing the right buttons and doesn't appear to be blind to reality. Could be that there is some internal push to shield Wilson or even get him back out there but unless you spin some elaborate conspiracy theory.. who would even want that? I think we can safely rule out the OC and the entire roster besides Zach himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, Arsis said: If Zack Wilson plays again this year Woody should fire. Saleh Let MW roll, but if he throws 2-3 int’s vs Min and Buf I think all options are in the table. This also keeps ZW (hopefully) working on mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Can’t you just enjoy the play of the guy you want to start without looking over you shoulder for Zach’s return? The idea that a HC and GM, both with jobs deeply dependent on Ws & Ls are going to play the lesser of the two just because? Saleh didn’t draft ZW, JD did. We’re at the point in the movie where Jason Vorhees is on the ground and appears to be dead. This is also the point in the movie where I’m screaming “Chop his head off! Take the head!” 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, August said: It’s just talk Saleh should do less of that, it's not his best skill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Obviously some people don't understand the concept of "coach speak". Nuanced thinking has gone the way of the unicorn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 the question is if wilson can regain any semblence to the form that made him the no. 2 pick. watching the film it doesn't look like he's always making bad decision but more that he's not getting set right to make the throws. and he's throwing late and play calling and oline are issues. the jets ran well on sunday and they ran the whole game. of course it helps to be up in the score but still, the running helps to tire out the other team. let's see what saleh makes. he sees white and wilson everyday and certainly ade the right call against the bears. i do agree that if white does rip off a nice string of wins then he should keep the job for the rest of the season. minny first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I hope sally is having private talks with White explaining his real intentions. It would be very jetsy MW to get annoyed at the lack of respect from his HC and sign a deal elsewhere next year tread lightly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warfish Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Maybe the Jets need to reimagine their QB room next year with nothing but plucky underdogs beloved by their teammates: Mike White/Taylor Heineike/Gardner Minshew 2023! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 It'll be fascinating to see the mood of the team if MW plays well but ZW is brought back anyway. I don't think Saleh is lying when he's saying ZW will return, btw. I get the feeling that when he says "Mike's got an opportunity to stack another great day up this week" he means "MW is getting another week to audition for another team to sign him as a FA this offseason". 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 This is just much ado about nothing, but gives the media something to yap about. Having said that, yeah, I wish Saleh would choose his words a bit more carefully at times. If they really plan to try a "reset" on ZW, then sit him the rest of the season and decide about the long-term QB after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Sammybighead said: Seriously calm down guys. He NEEDS to say that. Just like he needed to say benching zach was the furthest thing from his mind and then benched him 3 days later. If white continues to have success, zach is not getting back this year. This 100%. Only way we see Zach again this year is if White struggles and we fall out of the playoff race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: Maybe the Jets need to reimagine their QB room next year with nothing but plucky underdogs beloved by their teammates: Mike White/Taylor Heineike/Gardner Minshew 2023! Mike White/2nd-3rd Round Developmental Pick/Minshew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, T0mShane said: We’re at the point in the movie where Jason Vorhees is on the ground and appears to be dead. This is also the point in the movie where I’m screaming “Chop his head off! Take the head!” We need to stuff Wilson in a tube and shoot him into space.......oh wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I'm not sure what's so controversial about this. I'm not sure how much of this is PR as much as this is typical coach speak. Saleh made it clear 'all options are on the table'. Mike White started last week. Now he has another opportunity. Nobody is getting anointed as the starter for the season. That's not happening. Its week to week. Saleh knows his players. If the thought Mike White was the answer he would commit. If White stinks, Saleh will re-evaluate. He has realized he does not have a QB room he can rely on. I assume he knew this all along but did not get the green light from JD to pull Zach after committing to him at the start of the season. After the NE game, that changed. If Zach looks great in practice and Mike White strings together two bad games, we may see Zach start against the Lions. Or even Flacco. It wouldn't shock me. Whatever it takes to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinGreenNC Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 He will go back to ZW when we are resting our starters at the end of the season to get them ready for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetBlue Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Second thread confusing PR with reality. Mike White starts as long as he plays like he did last Sunday. They still want to develop their 2nd overall pick or don’t want to publicly shlt on a player that they might want to trade for assets Seriously, I really don't understand why some fans get all caught up in this. Wilson was the 2nd pick in last year draft. Saleh is going to allow White to build his value if he performs well and will either be resigned or will definitely get signed by another team for good money. Either way it works out for Mike White. At the same time he has this young player that the organization bet the farm on and are not willing to totally give up on him. They are realizing belatedly that Wilson was far from ready to start. He has a lot of work to do on his mechanics if he is ever to do anything in this league. Now he gets the chance to do just that. Lets see if that will make a difference. Just as Saleh stated it was Mike Whites play in practice that improved since the beginning of the season so that is why he was promoted to 2 and subsequently to 1. Wilson will now have to prove in practice that he should even be considered to start another game. He will need to get better at all aspects of his game but especially mechanics and tendency to lock onto one receiver. He may never do it, but he will have the opportunity to work on his game really with no pressure. Another factor is he will also be going up against our defense in practice and if that doesn't help him get better, nothing will. Saleh is a smart coach and is not stupid enough to say anything that will lower the morale of the already demoralized Wilson. There is no need to just to satisfy the blood lust of fans who hate Wilson or believe he can neve improve enough to be a quality starting quarterback. I totally get it. I just think that you always try and either maintain value or increase value of your assets. If Wilson is no longer in the teams long term plans, then you want to try and keep his value as high as you can. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvispookie Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, T0mShane said: So if Mike White throws a late pick to lose 30-24 to the Vikings in Minnesota, starting Zach Wilson and his league-worst statistical profile is back on the table? Or does Mike White have to produce Mahomes numbers every week in order to hold off the league’s worst quarterback? Amen Tom. Amen. He is ranked 35 out of 32 QBs this year... that means 2 backups were better. But sure, Mike White needs to keep that bull in the pen. Jesus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 He's not really saying anything here. He's saying they'll evaluate week to week which allows them to do anything and avoid discussing the future. That's important when you have a backup play one great game and a lot of people are calling for him to be crowned the starter for the rest of the year. If White tanks the next couple games, it won't help to have to walk back anointing White. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, KRL said: Obviously some people don't understand the concept of "coach speak". Nuanced thinking has gone the way of the unicorn Yep. When Zach demonstrates that he can outplay Mike White we will roll with him. Until then, Zach is on the bench. Talking heads just need something to yap about. Don’t sweat it coaches see what we see and more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, doitny said: we might not be able to sign White. some QB starved team will throw him a nice amount of money to make him their starter. or he can come back here and lose in TC to Zach in some phony competition. With Saleh's comments about "rolling with ZW when he's ready" (whatever he said) I get the feeling they're going to let MW hit FA and he'll end up elsewhere next season. Depressing to hear but that's where I think this is headed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I think Ro dry has learned a LOT about just handing the QB position to someone. He is inviting Mike White to change his plans. Simple as that. I mean, he also said benching Zach was a non-consideration. What they say to the media is usually about planting seeds of motivation. Not transparency. If this is an issue, stop being naive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Arsis said: If Zack Wilson plays again this year Woody should fire. Saleh It aint Saleh. It is JD. He is the one that was forcing Dennis The Menace on Saleh. It looks very much like Saleh went to Woody in order to break the deadlock. The press meeting that was 2 hours late was a result of JD and Selah waiting for Woody to get there. The locker room was in near revolt and Saleh could not over rule JD without Woody. And, if the owner shows up to a meeting, you *know* he is the one that gets the last word. JD drew all aces in this last draft, but he totally messed up with Becton and ZW picks and he does not want to admit and move on. Saleh is not to blame for Dennis The Menace. It was JD. Saleh went to bat and called in Woody 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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