Lith Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Glad he is going to the other league. Loved watching him pitch for us, he just couldn't do it regularly enough over the past few years. Good luck in Texas, Jake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Bitter sweet. 37 x 5 with an option is a lot of money for what Jake has done passed 2 years. On the other hand he was so underpaid and was the best pitcher on the planet for a couple of years. Last of the 5 aces era gone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 The Mets could have matched it if they wanted to. It’s not a lot of years or anywhere near the 300 plus contracts we’re seeing. Either they didn’t want him for even that contract or deGrom wanted to leave New York. Of course Texas has no state income tax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 That is a huge amount for a guy who is hurt that much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Lots of $ for 12 starts a year. Enjoy last place Jake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Good. Now pay Bassitt and Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Nearly $40 million a year for a pitcher who averaged 80 innings pitched a season the past three years. Gook luck with that. Last season proved you can't have your season ride on the arms of older starting pitchers. Both deGrom and and Scherzer faded badly down the stretch and in the playoffs when they were being counted on to be the keys to winning playoff series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Disappointing but I understand why Mets didn’t chase that deal. 1 first rd. pick (wash, rinse, repeat) goes pitching Need to get Nimmo signed along with Bassit and Walker. Get Ottavino & Trevor May back in the fold & see what other pieces you can add. I’d also see what Alonso & McNeill are willing to offer to lock them up early so we’re not doing this again next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Nearly $40 million a year for a pitcher who averaged 80 innings pitched a season the past three years. Gook luck with that. Last season proved you can't have your season ride on the arms of older starting pitchers. Both deGrom and and Scherzer faded badly down the stretch and in the playoffs when they were being counted on to be the keys to winning playoff series. Last season?? I think the Mets showed you cant depend on just dominant pitching to win consistently. They had 5 real good to great young pitchers at the same time. They made the WS once and play in game one time with that team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Wow, Mr Money Bags white collar crook let this happen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Anthony Jet said: Last season?? I think the Mets showed you cant depend on just dominant pitching to win consistently. They had 5 real good to great young pitchers at the same time. They made the WS once and play in game one time with that team Astros winning the whole thing brought a sigh of relief. Even if the Mets won the pennant, Houston completely owned the Mets last year and were clearly the better team from top to bottom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Anthony Jet said: Last season?? I think the Mets showed you cant depend on just dominant pitching to win consistently. They had 5 real good to great young pitchers at the same time. They made the WS once and play in game one time with that team Pitchers tend to break down. Maybe now they try to improve their lineup and sign quality (but not superstar) pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, VJphillyfan said: Wow, Mr Money Bags white collar crook let this happen? You don't think all these owners are crooks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I guess teams in their calculations of the economics of their org figure in giving great players extra years at high salaries even if they know the player will not perform at the higher level for latter years of the contract. When a team gives a ten year deal to a player in his 30s like with Albert Pujols I guess they figure the return in terms of revenue is higher than the exorbitant cost of the contract. With deGrom he never seemed to be on board with re-signing here and no real indicator the Mets were either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 In 2022 the Mets strategy of going far in playoffs if not the WS with a big two as starters (esp in a short series) didn’t work. Maybe the Mets just got tired of deGrom and determined it wouldn’t work with him. Now rumors that they want to continue with this strategy with an elite player like Verlander. They would need to match the contract they gave Scherzer. Do they want to sign another older pitcher after Scherzer’s injuries last year. Does Verlander want to pitch in New York? I personally hope the Mets go in a different direction than Verlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 EAD Jake. Dont want to be a Met, we dont want ya. Go sit for 80% of the year for the Rangers. Was just having this discussion, does Jake even have a memorable moment as a Met? Legit. obviously a lot of great outing but what was his most memorable start? NLDS vs. the Dodgers game 1? Is that it? lmfao what a waste of a career here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, JiFields said: EAD Jake. Dont want to be a Met, we dont want ya. Go sit for 80% of the year for the Rangers. Was just having this discussion, does Jake even have a memorable moment as a Met? Legit. obviously a lot of great outing but what was his most memorable start? NLDS vs. the Dodgers game 1? Is that it? lmfao what a waste of a career here. Game 5 vs LA made him the cult hero. I agree, Mets can use the $ in much better places. Bigger picture here, he won 82 games as a Met, 7th on all-time list. Only 116 less than Tom. He is a walking injury, 5-6 inning guy at best. He won 6 games for a team that won 101. This is a blessing in disguise for the Mets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, section314 said: Game 5 vs LA made him the cult hero. I agree, Mets can use the $ in much better places. Bigger picture here, he won 82 games as a Met, 7th on all-time list. Only 116 less than Tom. He is a walking injury, 5-6 inning guy at best. He won 6 games for a team that won 101. This is a blessing in disguise for the Mets. Yep, game 5. lol See, I couldnt even remember what game it was? Agree w/ everything else you said. Not upset at all about this, good for Jake and the Mets. Ridiculous to pay him that, he's a shell of himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 19 hours ago, section314 said: Lots of $ for 12 starts a year. Enjoy last place Jake. Jake just proved that winning is secondary to him . Typical major league douche . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Yankee fan but no hate towards the Mets makes me a casual observer I guess. Think the sentiment is correct here. When I saw he was leaving initially I thought that was a big loss and then remembered he really is always hurt. 12 wins past 2 seasons. Was making $35m the past 2 years. Gets a small bump and has the no income tax in Texas. Mets free up $. Everybody wins? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 11 hours ago, JiFields said: EAD Jake. Dont want to be a Met, we dont want ya. Go sit for 80% of the year for the Rangers. Was just having this discussion, does Jake even have a memorable moment as a Met? Legit. obviously a lot of great outing but what was his most memorable start? NLDS vs. the Dodgers game 1? Is that it? lmfao what a waste of a career here. A memorable moment? Yes the Mets scoring 1 run or less every time he pitched. Tough one, I see why the Rangers did it. If they get him healthy (huge if) he could will win over 20 games. Also see why the Mets had to pass. The owner having a ton of $ still doesn't mean you can give out bad contracts. Always liked Degrom though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Jake just proved that winning is secondary to him . Typical major league douche . What did the Mets offer him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Guy is going to be 35 before the All Star break. No way the Mets could have come close to this contract. Three years of injuries are a long time. The three years before that are the only years he threw 200 innings. Hasn't been Mr. Durable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Maxman said: What did the Mets offer him? Only three years ; probably based on his past health issues . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 He really didi not want to return and that contract is just not justifiable. Hate to see home grown guy go but this had to be the case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Maxman said: A memorable moment? Yes the Mets scoring 1 run or less every time he pitched. Tough one, I see why the Rangers did it. If they get him healthy (huge if) he could will win over 20 games. Also see why the Mets had to pass. The owner having a ton of $ still doesn't mean you can give out bad contracts. Always liked Degrom though. Yeah fun to watch, dominate when available but a very insignificant impact on the Mets for a 2 time Cy Young winner. The team just had their best season since he's been a Met, he pitched in what, 9 games? lol For an all-time great, very very very few meaningful moments. Blame it on the Mets, sure, they've been sh*tty since he's been around but still, is what it is for Mets fans and he didnt want to be here so good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 15 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Jake just proved that winning is secondary to him . Typical major league douche . You wouldn't change jobs for 37.5 million a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Verlander who was great in 2022 wants a Scherzer type deal for 3 years looks like Houston won’t give it to him. The Mets outbid LAD for Scherzer last off season. Mets org favors higher salary per season but fewer years. So looks like Mets could have a senior citizen 1-2 punch in ‘23. But would it work can these guys stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: Verlander who was great in 2022 wants a Scherzer type deal for 3 years looks like Houston won’t give it to him. The Mets outbid LAD for Scherzer last off season. Mets org favors higher salary per season but fewer years. So looks like Mets could have a senior citizen 1-2 punch in ‘23. But would it work can these guys stay healthy. Not sure I want the Mets to lock into another old pitcher. Another option would be to load up on offense and get mid-level starters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Not sure I want the Mets to lock into another old pitcher. Another option would be to load up on offense and get mid-level starters. I think this owner would want to sign him. And try for another 1-2 punch. But it basically didn’t work in 2022. Boras is rep-ing many of these pitchers. It will be expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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