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[Swampfox]

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

[ncjetman]

i’m sure gardner never even thought of doing this - kudos for pointing it out- he might be pretty good now


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[jetsons]

4 minutes ago, ncjetman said:

i’m sure gardner never even thought of doing this - kudos for pointing it out- he might be pretty good now


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[heymangold]

36 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

how many PI penalties has sauce had this year?

[ECURB]

37 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

What team are you a fan of and why are you so mad at sauce?

Also what year did you start watching the NFL? It’s clear you didn’t watch Revis play live and only looked at highlights. He was a master at being handsy and tackling the guy right before the ball got there instead of turning around.

[The Crusher]

51 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

Yep.

 

[Swampfox]

Been a Jets fan since 1965.  Not mad at Sauce but wish he would turn his head. Watch his head and ball placement on passes. PI penalties ?  Don't know but refs have tendency not to throw flags at  " premier " players but this will bite him in the butt. Watch his head when ball arrives and also his hands  while running Sunday.   ECURB:  I did watch Revis play live and he had his issues but they called him Revis Island because he TURNED HIS HEAD and knocked the ball away.

His name is now on the ring of honor.   ( I win.  lol ) just messing

[The Crusher]

10 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Been a Jets fan since 1965.  Not mad at Sauce but wish he would turn his head. Watch his head and ball placement on passes. PI penalties ?  Don't know but refs have tendency not to throw flags at  " premier " players but this will bite him in the butt. Watch his head when ball arrives and also his hands  while running Sunday.   ECURB:  I did watch Revis play live and he had his issues but they called him Revis Island because he TURNED HIS HEAD and knocked the ball away.

His name is now on the ring of honor.   ( I win.  lol ) just messing

Refs not throwing flags on him because he’s a premier player will bite him in the butt? He’s not as good as we think because he doesn’t turn his head around, but the league considers him a premier player as a rookie to the point he’s getting preferential treatment? 

Im glad you posted this. I was texting my cousin Twitchy  the other day while he was in the day room at the methadone clinic. He was saying pretty much the same thing but his fingers shake a lot when he types so I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant. He was the third string CB on our Pop Warner team and one time he almost defended a pass that fell about 8 feet short. BUT, he turned his head around ! Beck then we all thought he was nuts, now I know differently. Thank you SwampFox. Thank you. 

[Kleckineau]

I remember when Kyle Wilsons head would do 360's

[Jetty]

Sauce is good but this type of play won’t fly against Jefferson. He will definitely get the benefit of the whistle.

[PorP]

14 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Refs not throwing flags on him because he’s a premier player will bite him in the butt? He’s not as good as we think because he doesn’t turn his head around, but the league considers him a premier player as a rookie to the point he’s getting preferential treatment? 

Im glad you posted this. I was texting my cousin Twitchy  the other day while he was in the day room at the methadone clinic. He was saying pretty much the same thing but his fingers shake a lot when he types so I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant. He was the third string CB on our Pop Warner team and one time he almost defended a pass that fell about 8 feet short. BUT, he turned his head around ! Beck then we all thought he was nuts, now I know differently. Thank you SwampFox. Thank you. 

Your creativity and detail is impressive good sir. Lol. 

I wish twitchy good luck in his journey. 

[neckdemon]

y'know what i'm convinced, all this passes defended and completion pct against stuff is nonsense!!.....we need to know who leads the league in "times head turned" and sign that beast!!

[VJphillyfan]

17 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

I remember when Kyle Wilsons head would do 360's

Watching Vic Cruz running circles around him?

[Gastineau Lives]

46 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Refs not throwing flags on him because he’s a premier player will bite him in the butt? He’s not as good as we think because he doesn’t turn his head around, but the league considers him a premier player as a rookie to the point he’s getting preferential treatment? 

Im glad you posted this. I was texting my cousin Twitchy  the other day while he was in the day room at the methadone clinic. He was saying pretty much the same thing but his fingers shake a lot when he types so I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant. He was the third string CB on our Pop Warner team and one time he almost defended a pass that fell about 8 feet short. BUT, he turned his head around ! Beck then we all thought he was nuts, now I know differently. Thank you SwampFox. Thank you. 

This Twitchy, he need his cat shaved, brah?

[Ecuadorian Jet]

2 hours ago, Swampfox said:

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

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[Swampfox]

Hey Crusher:  Ask Twitchy what % of "back shoulder" throws would successful if the DB turned his head to the QB. Very little on post patterns. 

QB's throw it because they know which CB looks or not.

[SuicidalSince98]

I agree, he could have been called for PI on like every big play he’s had. We’d be calling him kyle Wilson 2.0 if the refs decided to take a different approach with him. 

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I agree, he could have been called for PI on like every big play he’s had. We’d be calling him kyle Wilson 2.0 if the refs decided to take a different approach with him. 

 

I also agree that if things had happened differently, that’d we’d be talking about how things happened differently.

[Barry McCockinner]

[The Crusher]

56 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Hey Crusher:  Ask Twitchy what % of "back shoulder" throws would successful if the DB turned his head to the QB. Very little on post patterns. 

QB's throw it because they know which CB looks or not.

 

54 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I agree, he could have been called for PI on like every big play he’s had. We’d be calling him kyle Wilson 2.0 if the refs decided to take a different approach with him. 

We can say that for 95% of contested completions in the league. 

[TuscanyTile2]

3 hours ago, Swampfox said:

Sauce is not as good as some fans think.  He is too handsy and rarely turns his head around especially on post patterns.  ( Hey Sauce   the WR's are not that good looking so quit staring at them) so turn your head around and look for the ball.  Being handsy with the WR only slows you down and can also draw a PI penalty. Once REC sets his pattern turn head immediately. Unless QB throws perfect pass, most passes whiz by CB's head or slightly above.  Raise your pinky finger and knock ball down. You'll never be as good as Revis until you take my free of charge advice. Revis and other great CB's turn and look for the ball. BTW, 75-80 % of LB's and DB's do the same thing as you.  GN

I agree that Sauce has been fortunate at the way the refs have treated him this year.  In other years, he probably gets several more PI calls against him.  (And I'd be surprised if he got those breaks against JJ tomorrow.)

It's not really fair to compare Sauce to Revis in his prime though because Sauce is a rookie.  If you compared their rookie years, Sauce would be the winner.

Can I take a guess at your fandom, btw?  Eagles?

[Kleckineau]

1 hour ago, Jetty said:

Sauce is good but this type of play won’t fly against Jefferson. He will definitely get the benefit of the whistle.

Trial by fire. If you wanna be the best you must beat the best.

[The Crusher]

53 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

Hey Crusher:  Ask Twitchy what % of "back shoulder" throws would successful if the DB turned his head to the QB. Very little on post patterns. 

QB's throw it because they know which CB looks or not.

He wasn’t sure what percentage would be but he insisted if Sauce turned his head more he would lead the league in pass break ups! I didn’t have the heart to break it to him he already does. Haha Family and shit! 

[Jets Things]

[Joe W. Namath]

Lock and ban please.

[Barry McCockinner]

The reason sauce doesn't get called for DPI is that he doesn't panic and almost always has great body control while making deliberate use of his hands and arms to defend the pass. He doesn't look back for the ball a lot of the time but he doesn't have to.

There's a common misconception that it's DPI if you don't turn your head. That's incorrect. Go look at the rule yourself if you don't believe me.

One of the things sauce is excellent at is looking at the receivers eyes and arms to determine when the ball is coming and place his lanky arms and hands in between the receivers making it impossible to catch. The op suggests looking at the receiver is a negative which is ridiculous.

It's the rare occasion sauce doesn't have great body control when he does get called for DPI, correctly.

 

[jetsons]

I think it has more to do with the league not calling the ticky tacky PI's like they did in past years... maybe they received some real heat after the Super Bowl... for almost the entire game the refs called a great game & they ruined it in the last 5 minutes.

[Jet Nut]

Who do you root for? ?

Impressive 1st hour, first thread

Welcome

[Jet Nut]

6 minutes ago, jetsons said:

I think it has to do with the league not calling the ticky tacky PI's like they did in past years... maybe they received some real heat after the Super Bowl... for almost the entire game the refs called a great game & they ruined it in the last 5 minutes.

You’re allowed to put your hands on a WR, feel where he’s moving.  You can’t move him, Sauce doesn’t. 
And he turns his head

[freestater]

Do it for Twitchy, Sauce.

[TommyT]

Although a vote may be needed, this thread ranks as one of the worst of the year. Why get into details regarding timing and content. Your honor I rest my case.

[The Crusher]

39 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Lock and ban please.

^^ hater 

[Dunnie]

Refs not throwing flags on him because he’s a premier player will bite him in the butt? He’s not as good as we think because he doesn’t turn his head around, but the league considers him a premier player as a rookie to the point he’s getting preferential treatment? 
Im glad you posted this. I was texting my cousin Twitchy  the other day while he was in the day room at the methadone clinic. He was saying pretty much the same thing but his fingers shake a lot when he types so I wasn’t exactly sure what he meant. He was the third string CB on our Pop Warner team and one time he almost defended a pass that fell about 8 feet short. BUT, he turned his head around ! Beck then we all thought he was nuts, now I know differently. Thank you SwampFox. Thank you. 

You lose (said in jest) Revis was better. Sauce is damn good though.

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[SoFlaJets]

Hey welcome Swampfox another old-time Jets fan. The one thing that you don't take into account about playing the ball is the rules have drastically changed from when Revis Island was a tourist attraction to now. There was a thing back in those "old days" called face guarding, much to my shock and surprise they don't call that penalty any longer.

[SoFlaJets]

29 minutes ago, jetsons said:

the league not calling the ticky tacky PI's like they did in past years.

Exactly Jetson