Popular Post 92ShaunEllis92 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White only solidified his standing as Jets’ starting QB even in defeat Ian O'Connor MINNEAPOLIS — Mike White was likely one dropped touchdown pass away from being the Jets’ starting quarterback for the rest of the season, no questions asked. It might be a bit harsh calling what Braxton Berrios did, or didn’t do, against the Vikings a drop, but those are the unforgiving rules of every given Sunday. If you get your hands on the ball, you need to catch it. Especially in the end zone, on the road, in the final minutes of a high-stakes game. “That’s on me,” Berrios said. White tried to take the blame for throwing the fourth-down pass a little behind his receiver, and credited Berrios for breaking the designed route to the outside and finding the soft underbelly of the defense on the inside. That’s what a leader does. That’s what a starting quarterback does. So when it was time to assess the Jets’ fatal flaws in the red zone that gave the Vikings a 27-22 victory, White understood that his job — Zach Wilson’s old job — required him to grab a mirror ASAP. “It starts with me,” he said. “You’ve got to figure out how to put the ball in the end zone, and if we can do that I think we win the game today.” A week after throwing three touchdown passes in a beatdown of the Bears, White found himself in the loud and hostile home of an entirely different brand of NFC North opponent. The Vikings entered the matchup 9-2 for a reason, and the visiting 27-year-old quarterback found out the hard way. Mike White watches from the ground during the Jets’ loss to the Vikings on Sunday. USA TODAY Sports White threw for 369 yards, but couldn’t deliver any touchdown passes. He did find the end zone on a fourth-and-goal run that was ruled a score on review, but failed to finish on either of two late, frantic drives that could’ve elevated his team’s record to 8-4. But even in defeat, and even after throwing two interceptions (though both under extenuating circumstances), White only solidified his standing as the undisputed starter, and strengthened his bond with his teammates. Just listen to Garrett Wilson, a potential superstar in the making, who had this to say after catching eight passes for 162 yards, including a 60-yarder that nearly changed everything: “That boy’s a dog, man. That boy’s a dog for real. He was out there controlling the huddle and … never letting the moment get too big. It was cool to see. … I know that I’d go to war for that boy. He’s got something special about him.” That’s why some players boarded the Jets’ plane Saturday wearing “Mike F’n White” T-shirts. That’s why some players walked into U.S. Bank Stadium on Sunday wearing “Mighty Ducks” jersey, with White himself dressed up in a “Ducks” Charlie Conway captain’s jersey. Head coach Robert Saleh has to see what is happening here. Nobody wants his quarterback forced to throw 57 passes by some uninspired play, some damaging penalties, and a 17-point deficit late in the first half. But facts are facts: White has now cleared 300 yards in three of his five starts, and probably would’ve made that four out of five had he avoided an early injury in last year’s Colts game. Wilson has cleared 300 yards only once in 20 starts. The game just looked harder to everyone in green when Wilson was on the field. “I thought Mike did a great job,” Saleh said. “There was a little bit of some ups and downs like you normally would [have] in a football game; they’re a good football team. But I thought he kept his composure, stayed within the game, and he made some big throws.” Mike White and the Jets lost to the Vikings on Sunday. Getty Images White never quit on the outcome, somehow scoring on that fourth-and-goal run to cut the deficit to five points. After getting blasted on a third-down incompletion on the next drive, White fired a brilliant fourth-and-10 strike to Corey Davis for 31 yards. Given one final opportunity by the Jets’ defense after the Berrios drop, White impressed his teammates with his poise. “Just him being in the huddle that last drive,” said Garrett Wilson, who didn’t want to reveal his quarterback’s message. “It’s not exactly what he said, but the way he said it. It didn’t seem like he was stressed out by the situation. He doesn’t seem like he’s worried or that it’s on his mind. He feels like we’re going to go out there and make those plays. “Man, it was fun to be out there to play with him today, to see how he went about his business. I’m just sorry we couldn’t get it done for him.” On fourth down in the final seconds, White had no choice but to let it rip down the middle. “I didn’t want to finish with the ball in my hands,” he explained after Minnesota’s clinching interception. So be it. Saleh gave White a fist bump as the two passed each other in the postgame interview room. As much as the coach wants to fix Zach Wilson, all White did Sunday was make that process a little more irrelevant. 15 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ECURB Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 It’s exciting that this could be a “rough” game… great foundation to build on. The guy can’t just be flawless after 5 starts but he is showing he is able to be QB1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bronx Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, 92ShaunEllis92 said: “That boy’s a dog, man. That boy’s a dog for real. He was out there controlling the huddle and … never letting the moment get too big. It was cool to see. … I know that I’d go to war for that boy. He’s got something special about him.” 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 I agree. While the result is disappointing, it’s more an indictment of the lack of running game at the goal lines, the challenge of having the Refs calling a lopsided game, quite a few drops including the likely game winner, and (mostly being ignored I think) the fact that the Vikings are quite good. I don’t think yesterday was in any way disqualifying for MW in terms of being our starting QB. As noted, Berrios makes that catch, we win. Id be surprised if any changes are made this week at QB, and I don’t think I’d make any changes the rest of this season. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Warfish said: I agree. While the result is disappointing, it’s more an indictment of the lack of running game at the goal lines, the challenge of having the Refs calling a lopsided game, quite a few drops including the likely game winner, and (mostly being ignored I think) the fact that the Vikings are quite good. I don’t think yesterday was in any way disqualifying for MW in terms of being our starting QB. As noted, Berrios makes that catch, we win. They have only loss to the Cowboys and Eagles. Crazy close one with the Bills. We simply loss to a better team yesterday. It happens. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsMetsRangers Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White with this offense compared to Zach is night and day, even with some missed throws and obviously not getting TD's in the Red Zone he lead the offense to nearly 500 yards.......He made some throws in tight spots that i doubt Zach even lets the ball go in because he would be ready to bail out........ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: They have only loss to the Cowboys and Vikings. Crazy close one with the Bills. We simply loss to a better team yesterday. It happens. Indeed. And yet we had the win if one play here or there is different (Berrios catch, MW not missing Wilson) or if the Refs called it strait. We played a 9-2 team as close as anyone. It’s disappointing. But hopefully not fatal to our postseason hopes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike White is legit, he's clearly not only the best QB on the roster but the best leader in that room as well. The team loves him, the offense performs at it's highest level's with him in the game and is just flat out w/out question, his team. I love this coaching staff, my only gripe is how they've handled the QB position, namely around the treatment of this dude, if they're not riding him the rest of the way, I will truly start to question JD's and Saleh's ability to get this position right which could be extremely determinantal to the success of their tenure. I just dont how you could tie the anchor that is Zach Wilson to this team and your career after seeing what Mike White does when given the opportunity. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: I agree. While the result is disappointing, it’s more an indictment of the lack of running game at the goal lines, the challenge of having the Refs calling a lopsided game, quite a few drops including the likely game winner, and (mostly being ignored I think) the fact that the Vikings are quite good. I don’t think yesterday was in any way disqualifying for MW in terms of being our starting QB. As noted, Berrios makes that catch, we win. Id be surprised if any changes are made this week at QB, and I don’t think I’d make any changes the rest of this season. I hope there is a change on snaps berrios takes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Crusher said: They have only loss to the Cowboys and Eagles Crazy close one with the Bills. We simply loss to a better team yesterday. It happens. The results are the results, but I dont feel like we lost to the better team yesterday, honestly. Same w/ the Pats. Legit feels like we gave 3 wins away vs. inferior teams. The Vikings are a good team, dont get me wrong but they play in the sh*tty NFC and everyone in their division is sub .500. They beat the Tua'less Dolphins and the Bills in OT and now the Jets, the rest of their wins arent all that impressive. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bronx said: Yeah but the 90 yards of passing offense yesterday we would have gotten from him would have been incredible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: I hope there is a change on snaps berrios takes lol, I know you feel vindicated but that was very uncharacteristic, dude has the best hands on the team. He catches that 99 out of 100 times and 99 times out of those 100, we get bump your thread and laugh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mike white is a stud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warfish said: I agree. While the result is disappointing, it’s more an indictment of the lack of running game at the goal lines, the challenge of having the Refs calling a lopsided game, quite a few drops including the likely game winner, and (mostly being ignored I think) the fact that the Vikings are quite good. I don’t think yesterday was in any way disqualifying for MW in terms of being our starting QB. As noted, Berrios makes that catch, we win. Id be surprised if any changes are made this week at QB, and I don’t think I’d make any changes the rest of this season. I actually thought both of Knight's runs at the end were solid. He was half a yard away. The third and 4th down calls were not awesome. I would not think we are changing away from White though I am not so sure his performance was as solid as this article makes it seem. But hopefully he learns from it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, JiFields said: The results are the results, but I dont feel like we lost to the better team yesterday, honestly. Same w/ the Pats. Legit feels like we gave 3 wins away vs. inferior teams. The Vikings are a good team, dont get me wrong but they play in the sh*tty NFC and everyone in their division is sub .500. They beat the Tua'less Dolphins and the Bills in OT and now the Jets, the rest of their wins arent all that impressive. Agree. I think the jets were the better team yesterday in all phases of the game. Jets had a slow start and some calls not go their way. Is what it is. If they play that way every game they can play with anyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Why dont the Jets show some faith in this guy and just say "Mike White is our starter moving forward". Stop this whole, we still want Zach to come back this year nonsense. Maybe thats why his 1st half was alittle off. Give the kid a full chance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Agree. I think the jets were the better team yesterday in all phases of the game. Jets had a slow start and some calls not go their way. Is what it is. If they play that way every game they can play with anyone Yesterday was the true definition of a game of inches....so many ridiculously close plays that change that game; Wilson missing the bomb, Wilson stepping out, White over throwing him by a pubic hair, Berrios w/ the drop, Bam getting stopped at the 1 yard line, and on and on. Sure, the Vikings missed some opportunities too but definitely felt like the Jets missed the bigger ones. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, JiFields said: The results are the results, but I dont feel like we lost to the better team yesterday, honestly. Same w/ the Pats. Legit feels like we gave 3 wins away vs. inferior teams. The Vikings are a good team, dont get me wrong but they play in the sh*tty NFC and everyone in their division is sub .500. They beat the Tua'less Dolphins and the Bills in OT and now the Jets, the rest of their wins arent all that impressive. You are what your record says you are. If you don’t like the word better us more established. Jets are still trying to figure it out, we are currently starting our third QB of the season. They are still figuring out. Agree on Patriots, we have them two games. I don’t feel that way about yesterday. It’s ok if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, The Crusher said: You are what your record says you are. If you don’t like the word better us more established. Jets are still trying to figure it out, we are currently starting our third QB of the season. They are still figuring out. Agree on Patriots, we have them two games. I don’t feel that way about yesterday. It’s ok if you do. lol - I hate that saying but sure, at the end of the day its true but just not sure how you cant see it when Berrios dropped the game winning TD he makes 99 out of 100 times but still love yer guts out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Barton said: Why dont the Jets show some faith in this guy and just say "Mike White is our starter moving forward". Stop this whole, we still want Zach to come back this year nonsense. Maybe thats why his 1st half was alittle off. Give the kid a full chance. Because the team is invested in Zach and Mike White isn't under contract past this year. If Mike White is the starter moving forward they should extend him now and hand him the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, The Crusher said: They have only loss to the Cowboys and Eagles. Crazy close one with the Bills. We simply loss to a better team yesterday. It happens. You watched that game and thought to yourself the Vikings are the better team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: You are what your record says you are. If you don’t like the word better us more established. Jets are still trying to figure it out, we are currently starting our third QB of the season. They are still figuring out. Agree on Patriots, we have them two games. I don’t feel that way about yesterday. It’s ok if you do. No you’re not, the pats lost the Super Bowl with the best record in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Barton said: Why dont the Jets show some faith in this guy and just say "Mike White is our starter moving forward". Stop this whole, we still want Zach to come back this year nonsense. Maybe thats why his 1st half was alittle off. Give the kid a full chance. I think White's 100% getting benched unless he plays very well on Sunday - Even a game like yesterday will see Zach come back imo. Saleh's had every chance to say we're riding with White indefinitely but every time he has indicated that Zach will be back and it's just a break. Could see the fans revolting vs The Lions if he comes back in and plays badly. I think they've underestimated how popular White would be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, JetsMetsRangers said: Mike White with this offense compared to Zach is night and day, even with some missed throws and obviously not getting TD's in the Red Zone he lead the offense to nearly 500 yards.......He made some throws in tight spots that i doubt Zach even lets the ball go in because he would be ready to bail out........ lol yes. so many completions by White yesterday would have been Wilson running backwards and getting sacked/incompletion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, JiFields said: lol - I hate that saying but sure, at the end of the day its true but just not sure how you cant see it when Berrios dropped the game winning TD he makes 99 out of 100 times but still love yer guts out. Saw all that and I’m not disagreeing whole heartedly. Drops, refs and Berrios missing Zach’s gentle touch on the ball all likely cost us. In the end the better team won yesterday. Vikings are a very established offense and their D played up to their potential yesterday when they needed to. That’s what I saw at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: You watched that game and thought to yourself the Vikings are the better team? It’s called objectivity. I don’t expect you to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Irish Jet said: I think White's 100% getting benched unless he plays very well on Sunday - Even a game like yesterday will see Zach come back imo. Saleh's had every chance to say we're riding with White indefinitely but every time he has indicated that Zach will be back and it's just a break. Could see the fans revolting vs The Lions if he comes back in and plays badly. I think they've underestimated how popular White would be. Yup. Like Shane has said, Mike White has to be almost flawless to keep his job, which shouldnt be the case but likely is. Kid has no luck with scheduling. Every time he takes over, there's some big team waiting to punch the Jets in the mouth. Even if the Jets lose this coming Sunday, I think White probably wins the rest of the games on the schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: No you’re not, the pats lost the Super Bowl with the best record in NFL history. Yes they did. Since it happen that one time it’s obviously now the standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, JiFields said: Yesterday was the true definition of a game of inches....so many ridiculously close plays that change that game; Wilson missing the bomb, Wilson stepping out, White over throwing him by a pubic hair, Berrios w/ the drop, Bam getting stopped at the 1 yard line, and on and on. Sure, the Vikings missed some opportunities too but definitely felt like the Jets missed the bigger ones. In most phases of the game we outplayed them. There was ridiculous inconsistency from the officials early on, White was a little off with his location but still gave his guys a chance for the most part, the defence took a while to get going, so many plays were close run things. We absolutely whooped them in the second half. That said I really don't think the Vikings are all that good. I really fancied the Jets heading into it and I still think we're a better team who'd win that game more often than not. I'm proud of the effort and resilience the guys showed but it feels like a huge missed opportunity. Buffalo are rolling again and what could have been a free hit to get ourselves in play for the division and #1 seed now becomes a crucial game that could see us out of the playoff spot. It sucks but it's good to have games that actually matter at this stage in the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: I think White's 100% getting benched unless he plays very well on Sunday - Even a game like yesterday will see Zach come back imo. Saleh's had every chance to say we're riding with White indefinitely but every time he has indicated that Zach will be back and it's just a break. Could see the fans revolting vs The Lions if he comes back in and plays badly. I think they've underestimated how popular White would be. Hard to know what's going on in the background. Reality is Zach is under contract for 2 more years and White is an FA. White may want to get paid a lot more than the Jets are willing to give him. The Jets may be downplaying his value intentionally? It could well be a negiotating tactic. Kind of sucks but it's a business and the Jets were hopefull they could compete for a SB with a cheap QB on a rookie deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, JetsMetsRangers said: Mike White with this offense compared to Zach is night and day, even with some missed throws and obviously not getting TD's in the Red Zone he lead the offense to nearly 500 yards.......He made some throws in tight spots that i doubt Zach even lets the ball go in because he would be ready to bail out........ I'm not sure you can say it any better than that. He's like a Pennington. We should be looking to draft or trade for or sign a stud, but this dude should be our starter until that happens and we can at least be a winning competitive football team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Biggs said: Because the team is invested in Zach and Mike White isn't under contract past this year. If Mike White is the starter moving forward they should extend him now and hand him the job. They can resign him. If he takes us to the playoffs they can even franchise tag him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It’s called objectivity. I don’t expect you to understand. When a team out gains the other, has more top, gets all the calls against them, has 6 red zone trips, all while on the road, I don’t think any objective observer would say they are the worse team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, VJphillyfan said: They can resign him. If he takes us to the playoffs they can even franchise tag him Franchise tag is 31 million for a QB. They need to resign Q. It blows up the build through the draft plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: When a team out gains the other, has more top, gets all the calls against them, has 6 red zone trips, all while on the road, I don’t think any objective observer would say they are the worse team. Teams who win in the NFL score TDS in the red zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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