Tyler Conklin

[Guilhermezmc]

Fumbles, drops, and the horrible angle in the punt return against the Pats.

Very very underwhelming player, maybe time to give the young guy a chance?

 

 

 

[SuicidalSince98]

Yes

[Jets Things]

He had three passes hit his hands. I get that everyone has a bad game, but any receiver - WR, RB, or TE - with three drops should be yanked. 

[Dunnie]

Conklin was clutch in the beginning of his tenure here ... but was not good yesterday ... Ruckert will get his shot .. believe that.

[Smashmouth]

 I would say yes let Ruckert play. Every time we gave a young guy a chance this year they came through now its Jeremy Time

[ScarletKnight89]

I've been less then impressed with him. He has his moments where he looks the part. Zach missed him tons of times early in the season on plays downfield. Still an upgrade over what we had but he hasn't been great. 

[Guilhermezmc]

Just now, Dunnie said:

Conklin was clutch in the beginning of his tenure here ... but was not good yesterday ... Ruckert will get his shot .. believe that.

Didn't he had 3 fumbles in the beginning of the year?

[undertow]

 the overall investment in the TE position has been underwhelming....

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Either that or let Uzomah get more reps over him. He's just not it right now. And yes to Ruckert. Why not at least scheme him some pass plays and see what he's got. Not just in there to block.

[JustInFudge]

Highly inconsistent but I dont see his role decreasing.  He a perma fixture in this offense.  The only players on the offense w/ more snaps this year are McGovern and Tomlinson.  

[SteveMiller]

He can make some plays here and there but definietly has too many drops. I would not be opposed at all to using our first round pick on a TE if there are any potential difference makers out there. Would take the offense to the next level.

[JohnnyLV]

20 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

Fumbles, drops, and the horrible angle in the punt return against the Pats.

Very very underwhelming player, maybe time to give the young guy a chance?

 

 

 

Weird thing is that his reputation had been of having some of the surest hands in the NFL

[FootballLove]

Saleh needs to announce a mid-season reset for Conklin to allow him to focus on his fundamentals that we fell in love with when we brought him here

[bonkertons]

3 minutes ago, SteveMiller said:

He can make some plays here and there but definietly has too many drops. I would not be opposed at all to using our first round pick on a TE if there are any potential difference makers out there. Would take the offense to the next level.

 

Would rather see what we have with Ruckert first.  Plus there are plenty of other needs that can be addressed with that pick.  LB, S, OL.  

 

But yeah, the idea of having an actual threat at TE is pretty enticing.  Just don't think I'd invest a 1st(yet).  Would rather draft a guy like Trenton Simpson and continue building up this defense.  We definitely need some youth there at the 2nd level, and a guy who we can rely on to actually make tackles.  

 

As far as the OP goes, I don't see any downside for benching Conklin in favor of Ruckert.  Bump Uzomah up to TE1, who IMO has been a better receiving TE than Conklin anyway.  Let Ruckert get some actual game experience in a lower-stress role.  I don't see the downside. 

[Beerfish]

Both TEs and their place, in our offense has been very disappointing to me.  One of the few parts of the team that has been a big disappointment. 

At the start of the year I thought we went from 0 TE's to three decent ones.  Not sure why Ruckert has been such a non factor.

We should try and trade for Pitts from Atlanta next off season.

[Barry McCockinner]

He had a rough game yesterday. Might have had some nerves facing his old team.

[derp]

11 minutes ago, bonkertons said:

 

Would rather see what we have with Ruckert first.  Plus there are plenty of other needs that can be addressed with that pick.  LB, S, OL.  

 

But yeah, the idea of having an actual threat at TE is pretty enticing.  Just don't think I'd invest a 1st(yet).  Would rather draft a guy like Trenton Simpson and continue building up this defense.  We definitely need some youth there at the 2nd level, and a guy who we can rely on to actually make tackles.  

 

As far as the OP goes, I don't see any downside for benching Conklin in favor of Ruckert.  Bump Uzomah up to TE1, who IMO has been a better receiving TE than Conklin anyway.  Let Ruckert get some actual game experience in a lower-stress role.  I don't see the downside. 

I get the trepidation with taking a first round tight end, the track record is absolutely brutal, but the track record of first round off ball linebackers isn’t much better.

Some of the first round guys at both spots are interesting but better to stick to premium positions in the first and look at stuff like TE and off ball LB day two. Can still get really high end guys at those positions in the second or third round.

[PepPep]

Still the best TE on the team. He was 3 for 3 with 50 yards in his last game (Bears). Had a particularly bad game against the Vikings. Struggles with some drops. But a lot of them are tough passes as well. I think he's put the fumbilitus behind him.

With Conklin you take the good with the bad. CJ is not a better player than Conklin and Ruckert is clearly not ready or he wouldn't be riding pine all season. BTW- his one opportunity was a dropped pass. 

 

[bonkertons]

42 minutes ago, PepPep said:

Still the best TE on the team. He was 3 for 3 with 50 yards in his last game (Bears). Had a particularly bad game against the Vikings. Struggles with some drops. But a lot of them are tough passes as well. I think he's put the fumbilitus behind him.

With Conklin you take the good with the bad. CJ is not a better player than Conklin and Ruckert is clearly not ready or he wouldn't be riding pine all season. BTW- his one opportunity was a dropped pass. 

 

 

Oh damn, in that case....close the book.  It's a wrap. 

[56mehl56]

3 hours ago, undertow said:

 the overall investment in the TE position has been underwhelming....

Hard to say that when they really haven't been utilized that much. 

[Paradis]

3 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said:

Fumbles, drops, and the horrible angle in the punt return against the Pats.

Very very underwhelming player, maybe time to give the young guy a chance?

 

 

 

[Paradis]

2 hours ago, PepPep said:

Still the best TE on the team. He was 3 for 3 with 50 yards in his last game (Bears). Had a particularly bad game against the Vikings. Struggles with some drops. But a lot of them are tough passes as well. I think he's put the fumbilitus behind him.

With Conklin you take the good with the bad. CJ is not a better player than Conklin and Ruckert is clearly not ready or he wouldn't be riding pine all season. BTW- his one opportunity was a dropped pass. 

 

ahhh no, on the "clearly Ruckert" end of this post. You just paid 2 TEs... clearly, they're going to play over the rookie, barring bad games like this. 

Personally, i think they're a bit redundant, and neither is really adding wrinkles to the offense. Conklin has been OK to good, but I want more from the position. our TEs should have at least 2-3 TDs in a game like yesterday. Neither moved off the line with a ton of nimbleness tbh when I paid attention. 

[jamesr]

Last year Conklin had 61 catches for 593 yards and 3 TDs across 17 games. 9.7 yard avg.

This year he's had 40 catches for 390 yards and 3 TDs across 12 games. 9.8 yard avg.

He's pretty much been "as advertised" - no more, no less.

 

[DoubleDown]

Stone hands Conklin had his worst game as a Jet yesterday.  He was a big reason they lost.

[Guilhermezmc]

3 hours ago, PepPep said:

Still the best TE on the team. He was 3 for 3 with 50 yards in his last game (Bears). Had a particularly bad game against the Vikings. Struggles with some drops. But a lot of them are tough passes as well. I think he's put the fumbilitus behind him.

With Conklin you take the good with the bad. CJ is not a better player than Conklin and Ruckert is clearly not ready or he wouldn't be riding pine all season. BTW- his one opportunity was a dropped pass. 

 

Don't believe they trust him with the blocking yet, Uzomah and Conklin have a big part of the blocking scheme. Rookies have been a spark plug for this team...

[Jimmy 2 Times]

They need to get into a more traditional west coast set.  Flip Conklin to a true fullback in the Tom Rathman role.  Catch those play action passes and put Ruckert in the tight end 1 position with CJ backing him up. 

[bitonti]

if Tyler Conklin was so darn amazing they wouldn't have drafted Ruckert in the 3rd round 

the thing is Ruckert missed the offseason and TC with an injury and might need this redshirt year 

 

[pointman]

I said Conklin sucked since the jump and you guys neg repped me to Bolivia (yes, Bolivia). Conklin sucks. He really does. Bring in The Ruckert or at the very least, let your boy, my boy, everyone's boy Kenny Yeboah get some real meaningful snaps.

[FidelioJet]

He seems to get open - but it also seems like the balls have to be perfectly thrown.  He doesn't seem to be able to come down with anything if it's not exactly in the right spot.  

I like his speed and athleticism though.

[Dcat]

5 hours ago, PepPep said:

Still the best TE on the team. He was 3 for 3 with 50 yards in his last game (Bears). Had a particularly bad game against the Vikings. Struggles with some drops. But a lot of them are tough passes as well. I think he's put the fumbilitus behind him.

With Conklin you take the good with the bad. CJ is not a better player than Conklin and Ruckert is clearly not ready or he wouldn't be riding pine all season. BTW- his one opportunity was a dropped pass. 

 

yesterday's bad outwweighed any and all good.  He was a major contributor to ruining the Jets chances.  Next.

[Drums]

Saleh said prior to last week’s game that Ruckert is still getting his legs under him but I do think he will be a good player for us. He looked good in preseason against backups and once he is ready I think he will look good against starters too. 

[The Crusher]

5 hours ago, SteveMiller said:

He can make some plays here and there but definietly has too many drops. I would not be opposed at all to using our first round pick on a TE if there are any potential difference makers out there. Would take the offense to the next level.

Not a Ruckert fan? 

[T0mShane]

6 hours ago, Jets Things said:

He had three passes hit his hands. I get that everyone has a bad game, but any receiver - WR, RB, or TE - with three drops should be yanked. 

7 targets, 2 catches for Conklin yesterday. He’s so weak at the catch point for a dude his size. 

[#27TheDominator]

3 hours ago, Paradis said:

ahhh no, on the "clearly Ruckert" end of this post. You just paid 2 TEs... clearly, they're going to play over the rookie, barring bad games like this. 

Personally, i think they're a bit redundant, and neither is really adding wrinkles to the offense. Conklin has been OK to good, but I want more from the position. our TEs should have at least 2-3 TDs in a game like yesterday. Neither moved off the line with a ton of nimbleness tbh when I paid attention. 

Your take is that Conklin and Uzomah are playing over Ruckert because of their contracts?  I think they would like nothing more than for Ruckert to take that spot.  He played a bunch of snaps against the Browns and had a pretty bad drop.  Not a didn't catch a ball that hit his hands, but an obvious drop.  He seemed to fall out of favor and I guess Uzomah missed the Browns game.  Ruckert played a few snaps on O vs. Miami and Chicago.  I think they still plan to have Ruckert work in, but I just don't think he has been setting the world on fire.  If he were ready they certainly would not have been playing Cager over him in the opener. 

[Paradis]

12 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Your take is that Conklin and Uzomah are playing over Ruckert because of their contracts?  I think they would like nothing more than for Ruckert to take that spot.  He played a bunch of snaps against the Browns and had a pretty bad drop.  Not a didn't catch a ball that hit his hands, but an obvious drop.  He seemed to fall out of favor and I guess Uzomah missed the Browns game.  Ruckert played a few snaps on O vs. Miami and Chicago.  I think they still plan to have Ruckert work in, but I just don't think he has been setting the world on fire.  If he were ready they certainly would not have been playing Cager over him in the opener. 

He was recovering from an injury that cost him the majority of the offseason... so, not shocking he wasn't out there over Cager. 

Agree to disagree, on Conklin and Uzomah being people the staff would love nothing more than to see leapfrogged by your rookie TE. Why did we even sign them if we can't wait for them to be overtaken. Makes no sense.

I'm not saying Ruckert has set anything on fire... just that any narrative about Jeremy "struggling" to assert himself is garbage. "oh he had a drop!" Well, i guess we should throw in the towel and burn him at the stake then.