Warfish Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Report can be found here: https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2022-12-08 NFL Report_Final.pdf Interesting reading, to say the least. Enjoy. Try not to get the thread locked please. Snyder and the NFL do not look good here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 one of the worst owners the NFL has ever seen 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Well I'd like to see everything thrown wide open, I think we will find that there are a LOT more poor behavior in the NFL top end circles than just Jon Gruden and Dan Snyder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Boys will be boys . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 That's a lot of words. I'll wait for the peanut galleries (media) interpretation. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Pretty rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, hawk said: That's a lot of words. I'll wait for the peanut galleries (media) interpretation. ? Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, hawk said: That's a lot of words. I'll wait for the peanut galleries (media) interpretation. ? Exactly... I get 90 percent of my football based info right here.. Americas News Source. @JetNation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Ditto yeah... asking you to read more than a page might be a push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Report can be found here: https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2022-12-08 NFL Report_Final.pdf Interesting reading, to say the least. Enjoy. Try not to get the thread locked please. Snyder and the NFL do not look good here. Obviously, complex. Not just sorting out what is true and what is not. What is actually actionable, legally. ??? Is there a single workplace that is not to some degree "toxic" ??? Also... When can outside agencies force the NFL to penalize or remover an owner ??? Even one as "questionable" as DS ??? Where do the offenses of DS and the "Commanders" become the fault of the NFL itself ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, THE BARON said: Obviously, complex. Not just sorting out what is true and what is not. What is actually actionable, legally. ??? Is there a single workplace that is not to some degree "toxic" ??? Also... When can outside agencies force the NFL to penalize or remover an owner ??? Even one as "questionable" as DS ??? Where do the offenses of DS and the "Commanders" become the fault of the NFL itself for not dealing with this if they knew some of it/all of it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Report can be found here: https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2022-12-08 NFL Report_Final.pdf Interesting reading, to say the least. Enjoy. Try not to get the thread locked please. Snyder and the NFL do not look good here. Ok. Do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 Dan Snyder is the Devil! 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Report can be found here: https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2022-12-08 NFL Report_Final.pdf Interesting reading, to say the least. Enjoy. Try not to get the thread locked please. Snyder and the NFL do not look good here. should hav stayed the redskins 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Ok. Do my best. 31 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Dan Snyder is the Devil! Well that was fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackdance Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: should hav stayed the redskins Is it too late to change from Commanders to Commandos? Because if they can't go Redskins, that would be a clear 2nd best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Didn’t Snyder basically threaten the NFL with dirt ? yeah this is going to get ugly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, THE BARON said: What is actually actionable, legally. ??? That's for the courts to decide. Nothing criminally, most likely. Perhaps some in civil court. I'm far more interested in what the NFL Owners do in re: Snyder's ongoing ownership of the team and/or Snyder's desire to sell. 1 hour ago, THE BARON said: Is there a single workplace that is not to some degree "toxic" ??? The "everyone does it" defense? 1 hour ago, THE BARON said: Also... When can outside agencies force the NFL to penalize or remover an owner ??? Even one as "questionable" as DS ??? They cannot. 1 hour ago, THE BARON said: Where do the offenses of DS and the "Commanders" become the fault of the NFL itself ? An interesting question, one this report in part answers, laying a portion of the blame on the NFL itself for de facto helping cover it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: should hav stayed the redskins Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, hawk said: That's a lot of words. I'll wait for the peanut galleries (media) interpretation. ? I think the original testimony is very telling. Waiting for others to tell you what to think, through their particular prism, and in today's excessively divisive team-sports-politics environment, will rob you of real knowledge and drown you in spin in a case like this. JMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hawk Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: I think the original testimony is very telling. Waiting for others to tell you what to think, through their particular prism, and in today's excessively divisive team-sports-politics environment, will rob you of real knowledge and drown you in spin in a case like this. JMO. I was joking. I don't even care to know what the peanut gallery says. Billionaires going to billionaire. They are all crooked scumbags. Nothing will ever change that. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE BARON Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Warfish said: That's for the courts to decide. Nothing criminally, most likely. Perhaps some in civil court. I'm far more interested in what the NFL Owners do in re: Snyder's ongoing ownership of the team and/or Snyder's desire to sell. The "everyone does it" defense? They cannot. An interesting question, one this report in part answers, laying a portion of the blame on the NFL itself for de facto helping cover it up. The league has tremendous resources. In order to protect the brand, they will do everything within their means and scope to defend even a "guilty" owner in order to avoid a public mark. Not just in this case, but in all. I'm guessing that other NFL organizations are not way off from some of what we are seeing in this report and much has been sanitized or buried over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted December 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warfish said: I think the original testimony is very telling. Waiting for others to tell you what to think, through their particular prism, and in today's excessively divisive team-sports-politics environment, will rob you of real knowledge and drown you in spin in a case like this. JMO. I’m sure, I’ll wait for the Netflix documentary. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 ESPN has a thorough but not overly long summary here : The NFL looks bad - and should This bit bothered me the most - talk about coverup ... makes me as mad as when they destroyed the evidence of the Cheats' film fiasco: "Although the NFL appeared on the surface to have cooperated with committee requests for documents, much of what the league provided was "news articles, press clippings, and public court records." Investigators said the league "refused to turn over" at least 40,000 documents collected by Wilkinson during the league's internal investigation, including Wilkinson's written findings presented to the NFL during her investigation." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, southparkcpa said: yeah... asking you to read more than a page might be a push. I’m a busy man…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 7 hours ago, The Crusher said: Dan Snyder is the Devil! I thought Zach Wilson was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 23 hours ago, hawk said: That's a lot of words. I'll wait for the peanut galleries (media) interpretation. ? Just read the cover page & the 1.5 page table of contents then. Or you'll get the gist of it long before you get to the end of that page & a half summary. Or just stop at the cover page alone: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 23 hours ago, slimjasi said: one of the worst owners the NFL has ever seen They Rue the day they allowed him into their club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I hope this gets messy, would love to watch some billionaires cry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 This a report by the US House of Representatives. Look at the conclusion. It is not limited to the NFL. It basically is using the behavior of a premier organization like the NFL to justify more laws, more regulation, more bureaucracy, more interference in how workplaces run. There are 32 other teams. The NFL is just a cooperative body. Each is its own business. Snyder is a jerk and this is all him. So Snyder continues to mess up the world for everyone else. Who here would hire a young, attractive secretary? Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Grudens going to walk away with a lot of money 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, varjet said: This a report by the US House of Representatives. Look at the conclusion. It is not limited to the NFL. It basically is using the behavior of a premier organization like the NFL to justify more laws, more regulation, more bureaucracy, more interference in how workplaces run. There are 32 other teams. The NFL is just a cooperative body. Each is its own business. Snyder is a jerk and this is all him. So Snyder continues to mess up the world for everyone else. Who here would hire a young, attractive secretary? Not me. This lady is married to David Gregory lol. I’d take it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Just read the cover page & the 1.5 page table of contents then. Or you'll get the gist of it long before you get to the end of that page & a half summary. Or just stop at the cover page alone: President Reagan once said the scariest thing a person can ever hear is: "We're from the government, and we're here to help" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Just read the cover page & the 1.5 page table of contents then. Or you'll get the gist of it long before you get to the end of that page & a half summary. Or just stop at the cover page alone: I got to US House of Representative... Elected Scumbags that cater to and are puppets of Billionaires. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viermoo Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 You actually read this?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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