FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. I think, anyone being honest will agree Zach played better against Buffalo than Mike White did today. Circumstances were different - home v. away, bad weather etc. So it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Every week is different. While I didn't think Mike White was good today - I wouldn't say he was bad either - he was't the main reason they lost - there's plenty of blame to go around. So, not knocking Mike White - but if we're being honest, the OP was correct - Zach played better than Mike White against the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Is it then your view than Zach Wilson wins not only the Bears game, but one or both of the Vikings/Bills games if he had been retained as starter? Yes, for one, he already beat the Bills, unlike White 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: Sounds like excuses to me. 1-2, meanwhile 5-2 with Zach. We beat the Bears though, so you White fans have that going for you. We’re not White fans, we’re Jets fans. And can see White is much better than Zach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, artemusclyde said: Get back to me when White starts winning games. Cause we were winning with Zach and are now losing with White. Oh, but Zach was mean to the media and is rich, so I guess that means we should roll with White. I’m lying if I wasn’t hoping he was active when Mike White went down and Flacco came in. Neither one of these QBs proved they can win when the defense plays less than amazing against really good teams. I’m hoping Mike White can win next week, if not I may join you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, GreenFish said: We’re not White fans, we’re Jets fans. And can see White is much better than Zach. About to miss the playoffs with White and people still be going on about how White's the better option. Meanwhile, Zach had us in the driver's seat for making the playoffs. 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think, anyone being honest will agree Zach played better against Buffalo than Mike White did today. Circumstances were different - home v. away, bad weather etc. So it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Every week is different. While I didn't think Mike White was good today - I wouldn't say he was bad either - he was't the main reason they lost - there's plenty of blame to go around. So, not knocking Mike White - but if we're being honest, the OP was correct - Zach played better than Mike White against the Bills. Not really; the team played better when ZW was along for the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: Lol please, you White fanboys were rooting for the Jets to lose cause you hated Zach with a passion cause the media doesn't like him. Meanwhile, we were winning with him and losing with White. Everybody and their mother making excuses for this team when White's playing and saying we'll be good next year cause we'll probably miss the playoffs since we benched Zach. Nah man, I'm not letting that sh*t slide, all year long I had to listen to you idiots crying about Zach and how this is a playoff team. Well, this playoff team has a worse record without Zach then it does with and is set to miss the playoffs. Jets would have as bad a record with Zach, maybe worse because Zach was playing so badly, he probably loses to Chicago. Tell me, what did you see in Zachs play that tells you he beats the Vikings? Zach was making excuses about the wind in Foxboro. What do you think he would say about today's weather in Buffalo? As far as me, I actually started a thread that was titled I believe. After the Steelers game, I thought Zach turned the corner. Boy was I a suckered. At least I admit I was wrong about him. I have no idea what it is you see in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, usapaw said: Not really; the team played better when ZW was along for the ride. The same team that hated him? But loves Mike White? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Jets would have as bad a record with Zach, maybe worse because Zach was playing so badly, he probably loses to Chicago. Tell me, what did you see in Zachs play that tells you he beats the Vikings? Zach was making excuses about the wind in Foxboro. What do you think he would say about today's weather in Buffalo? As far as me, I actually started a thread that was titled I believe. After the Steelers game, I thought Zach turned the corner. Boy was I a suckered. At least I admit I was wrong about him. I have no idea what it is you see in him. Don’t bother responding It’s just the Kapono trolls ? coming out of hiding and rejoicing at a Jet loss so they can sh-t on MW The QB threw for 260 or whatever it was despite getting absolutely blasted in the pocket. (LaFleur doesn’t believe in picking up blitzes apprently.) Didn’t turn the ball over. Was let down by MC fumbling in the RZ with a chance to come back and win it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: Get back to me when White starts winning games. Cause we were winning with Zach and are now losing with White. Oh, but Zach was mean to the media and is rich, so I guess that means we should roll with White. No reason to attempt meaningful conversation with a poster that struggles with why Zach had clipboard duty today, again. Keep spewing crap - somebody will argue it with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, artemusclyde said: About to miss the playoffs with White and people still be going on about how White's the better option. Meanwhile, Zach had us in the driver's seat for making the playoffs. 2yards per half sure take a long time to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Zach did have a 101.1 rating compared to White’s 78.6 today. Wilson also threw a TD that game and White did not. To be fair, each game has varying degree of factors which affect the game. White had the chance to win the past 2 games, but the team lost both. He gets a bit of blame, but it’s a team game and there’s plenty of blame to go around when each guy is back there. Zach was inept against the Pats the 2nd game, hence the reason White is in there. But at some point, being likable and above average gets old quick if the team is not winning. Hopefully, White is good to go next week and the Jets can stack a bunch of wins. If not, then not sure what the future holds. Honestly, a win is a win and a loss is a loss, stats are nice for fantasy, but these guys have to lead the team to victory. I think the Ravens QB had something like 12 attempts today and won the game, all that matters is the win. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The same team that hated him? But loves Mike White? Ask the WRs how they feel about Zach Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I cant believe people are debating Zach is better than White. Smh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Clue Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, rex-n-effect said: Like what were your search terms to find this gif? Rikishi 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Warfish said: Is it then your view than Zach Wilson wins not only the Bears game, but one or both of the Vikings/Bills games if he had been retained as starter? Zach Wilson would be undefeated if we didn’t play the Patriots twice! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ask the WRs how they feel about Zach Wilson. I think you could expand that to the entire locker room . . . but what do they know? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ask the WRs how they feel about Zach Wilson. I don't disagree. WR's get more yards with Mike White throwing. That wasn't my point. I was responding to a poster that told me - the team played better with Zach Wilson than Mike White and that's why they won with Zach. I was just curious - As I've been told, the team hates Zach Wilson and loves Mike White - shouldn't that then translate to performance? But maybe not... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Zach Wilson Sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. This is hilarious. Thank you 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 The Asman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackExchangeNYJ Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 How is it not the end of the discussion when people are talking about the great game Wilson had with his... *checks notes* ...154 yards? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I don't disagree. WR's get more yards with Mike White throwing. That wasn't my point. I was responding to a poster that told me - the team played better with Zach Wilson than Mike White and that's why they won with Zach. I was just curious - As I've been told, the team hates Zach Wilson and loves Mike White - shouldn't that then translate to performance? But maybe not... The Jets DO perform better with White under center. This bullsh*t W-L only analysis without context is getting more lame and stupid by the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: This bullsh*t W-L only analysis Really? Silly me, I thought that's why they played. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: The same team that hated him? But loves Mike White? Joining the cult again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Jets DO perform better with White under center. This bullsh*t W-L only analysis without context is getting more lame and stupid by the day. For the record. I'm not saying the team doesn't play better with White. I was responding to someone that told me why Mike White's record is 1-2. I'm sure the team plays harder because they love Mike White...and I suspect tries less hard when the hated Zach Wilson was the QB. That reality hasn't translated to wins and losses though. I hope that trend turns around though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Joining the cult again? I've answered this already I was simply responding to someone that told me the reason they won with Zach and losing with Mike White was because the team played better with Zach. I don't agree with the premise, I'm with you on this one. Team loves White, plays harder for White. They'll start winning soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think, anyone being honest will agree Zach played better against Buffalo than Mike White did today. Circumstances were different - home v. away, bad weather etc. So it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Every week is different. While I didn't think Mike White was good today - I wouldn't say he was bad either - he was't the main reason they lost - there's plenty of blame to go around. So, not knocking Mike White - but if we're being honest, the OP was correct - Zach played better than Mike White against the Bills. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: The Asman If White had a healthy Breece Hall to hand off to as Wilson did, Jets would be leading the division right now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Really? Silly me, I thought that's why they played. Yet you can’t use that alone to evaluate individual players. Funny how that works eh? If Wilson deserved any legitimate credit for his 5-2 record he wouldn’t be inactive right now. He was along for the ride. He didn’t drive the bus. Like, at all. White performed better in a loss against Buffalo than Wilson did in a win. Those things happen. If they didn’t, then Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien would be considered better QBs than Dan Marino. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Really? Silly me, I thought that's why they played. Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Yet you can’t use that alone to evaluate individual players. Funny how that works eh? Example: Earlier today a Pats fan I’m friends with mentioned that Justin Jefferson had a monster day today. To which I noted that Sauce held him to 46 yards. His retort: “Vikings won though.” You’re not a filthy, stupid Pats fan are you? Thought not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Like comparing the performance of a valet bringing your car around to a guy trying to win the Indy 500 with broken ribs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertow Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Some peoples brains were broken when we drafted Zach....it's a bit strange. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Really? Silly me, I thought that's why they played. The difference between this game and last was Josh Allen didn't turn the ball over and Michael Carter did. No one actually believes Zach Wilson was the difference, do they? It's a rhetorical question. I know the truth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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