Smashmouth Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Hal N of Provo said: You guys realize White can’t move and the MFL protection scheme / play calling to create quick throws against blitzes sucks ass right? what ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. Lol led the team huh 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said: You guys realize White can’t move and the MFL protection scheme / play calling to create quick throws against blitzes sucks ass right? You’ve said it like 12x today. No, he’s not mobile. No, that isn’t a requirement to play the position. As @T0mShane pointed out, dumpoffs to RBs are the answer to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: You’ve said it like 12x today. No, he’s not mobile. No, that isn’t a requirement to play the position. As @T0mShane pointed out, dumpoffs to RBs are the answer to that. You can’t really discuss “mobility” with someone who thinks that Zach is “mobile” in any positive connotation of the term. Better to say that Zach runs well. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFJF Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You can’t really discuss “mobility” with someone who thinks that Zach is “mobile” in any positive connotation of the term. Better to say that Zach runs away well. Fixed. 4 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Top three rushers in terms of avg are qbs — all over 6ypc. Daniel Jones is like the 4th highest QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Vader said: Top three rushers in terms of avg are qbs — all over 6ypc. Daniel Jones is like the 4th highest QB Shouldn't they be? QB's run more now than ever. Rarely by design. Often when opportunity presents itself and a huge hole opens up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: Shouldn't they be? QB's run more now than ever. Rarely by design. Often when opportunity presents itself and a huge hole opens up. they don't all do it though. whether by design or not, and more and more they are by design. some would rather spike the ball and live another down or punt rather than get the six yards new for the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. And when it was crunch time, they let Zach throw exactly once. The 4th quarter of the first game could be summarized by the Jets Oline dominating the Bills Dline. That didn't happen today. The Oline was not up to the task today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: You’ve said it like 12x today. No, he’s not mobile. No, that isn’t a requirement to play the position. As @T0mShane pointed out, dumpoffs to RBs are the answer to that. Is that some sort of knock on white ? Not mobile? He is mobile enough just fine. I want a pocket passer. That is how you win in this league. Mike white move plenty for me. I like to see more decisive qb sneak where appropriate though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Greensleeves said: Zach played a really good game against the Bills, especially coming off the game where he held the ball too long against the Pats. He was very decisive and quick to get rid of the ball - quicker than MW was today. People forget how crisp he was that game. The weather was certainly a factor today though. 1 decent game out of 19 is not something to celebrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Hal is not a troll; (s)he holds a (currently) unpopular opinion. Jesus, the exact OPPOSITE opinion was shouted down as “trolling” mere weeks ago. ✌️ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Jets DO perform better with White under center. This bullsh*t W-L only analysis without context is getting more lame and stupid by the day. The two lost fumbles and CJ Mosley’s ants in his pants offside jump are enough to prove exactly what you are saying. The turnover differential cost us the game today, period! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 hours ago, T0mShane said: I really don't want to go back and forth on this because this isn't about Zach right now. I really do think these types of comparisons are almost entirely meaningless. But Leger Douzable isn't exactly the best source for these. He's been an anti-zacher since the begging. Zach played a very good game against Buffalo - numbers weren't big, no. - but he did everything he needed to win. Made key throws when needed, high comp. %. It's okay, Mike White should be starting...I have no doubt Mike White is the better QB right now. I also don't believe Zach should play again this year (honestly, if I were the Jets I would shut him down the rest of the way) But it's okay to recognize realities. Zach played a better game than Mike White did against Buffalo. Again, I don't think White was bad - he was fine. Jets overall need to play better if they want to beat good teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Jets DO perform better with White under center. This bullsh*t W-L only analysis without context is getting more lame and stupid by the day. There was a graphic displayed early in the game that showed the offensive production and points per game under Mike White vs. Zach Wilson should have literally put this conversation to bed for good but I assume half the board doesnt even watch the game (a poster admitted to it and then gave and analysis later, which is baffling) so they probably missed the graphic but it was damning. The other part of this conversation is; Mike White had a chance to do something that only Burrow and Mahomes have done and he was damn close and probably gets it without injury. Whereas, Zach Wilson was on a Jamarcus Russell like trajectory. Pretty drastic difference, no? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: You guys realize White can’t move and the MFL protection scheme / play calling to create quick throws against blitzes sucks ass right? Well yeah because running backwards like an idiot is definetly the way to go to hell with knowing how to move in the pocket which is what you should be paying attention too 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. Zach vs Bills - 158 yards playing at home White vs Bills - 268 yards at Buffalo in God awful weather Zach sux, White is nothing special either but he’s better //thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, VJphillyfan said: Zach vs Bills - 158 yards playing at home White vs Bills - 268 yards at Buffalo in God awful weather Zach sux, White is nothing special either but he’s better //thread Milano and Poyer also missed the 1st matchup (injured) I don’t know if you remember but Bills’ defenders were also dropping like flies in that game this game was the opposite in terms of pass pro and injury luck Fant was knocked out and Remmers sucks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJphillyfan Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Milano also missed the 1st matchup (injured) I don’t know if you remember but Bills’ defenders were also dropping like flies in that game this game was the opposite in terms of pass pro and injury luck Fant was knocked out and Remmers sucks The Zach cucks are reaching for anything to give them hope the undersized clown who put up numbers facing Southern Idaho Comunity College they said was Aaron Rodgers 2.0 isn’t a colossal bust 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrad01 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Somehow I feel like the loss of Quinnen, Davis, and turnovers cause by backups in Remmers, Flacco, and Carter MAY have played a hand in this. What about the fact he couldn't do sh*t in the first half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, jayrad01 said: What about the fact he couldn't do sh*t in the first half? Against arguably the best team in the league during a hail storm? The MVP caliber QB on the other side only scored because Mosley jumped offsides on 4th down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, jayrad01 said: What about the fact he couldn't do sh*t in the first half? How did the great Josh Allen do in the 1st half? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 16 hours ago, Hal N of Provo said: The Bills had Von Miller in the first game. Average yards per attempt are a slight edge to Zach, but basically the same. White threw for more yards on way more attempts. Zach led the offense to 20 points. Mike White led the offense to 10 points. Zach was elusive and could add yards with his legs. Mike White was a battered statue. Zach led the team to a victory. Mike White does a nice job getting statz between the 20’s. Start Zach. Mike White QB2. They see me trollinggggg, and riding dirtyy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdfodder Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Paradis said: I'd rather watch the Jets lose, than watch them win with ZW right now. I don't like anything about that kid. If he grows the fck up this summer and shows up looking it -- then we can talk. Until then, blow. NFL is a business bro..not a popularity contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, gdfodder said: NFL is a business bro..not a popularity contest. Agreed. Zach's continued appearance on the field shared far more in common with popularity (being the draft pick that reflected on JD's decision) than it did business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 The Zach cucks are reaching for anything to give them hope the undersized clown who put up numbers facing Southern Idaho Comunity College they said was Aaron Rodgers 2.0 isn’t a colossal bustYawn.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalSince98 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 No he didn’t.. Wilson was asked to do very little vs Buffalo and the Jets controlled that game with defense and running the ball. MW made tons of big time throws in horrible conditions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, gdfodder said: NFL is a business bro..not a popularity contest. It's not about protecting people's feeling either who cares if ZW never plays another down ZW was benched for being bad at his job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 18 hours ago, maury77 said: To those of you that still believe Zach Wilson has a chance of being even an average NFL QB, what cannabis dispenary are you visiting? The ones I visit don't have stuff as good as what you guys are smoking. They’re hitting the crack pipe, not the dispensary pre-rolls. Either that or they’re upholding Joseph Smith’s sacred honor code. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Was OP here before Zach or is this one of those weird things where they are a fan of the player in college and then becomes a “Jets fan” to watch their favorite college QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: How did the great Josh Allen do in the 1st half? Allen’s 16 of 27 for 147 yards, to Zach fans, is pure QB dominance. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said: No he didn’t.. Wilson was asked to do very little vs Buffalo and the Jets controlled that game with defense and running the ball. MW made tons of big time throws in horrible conditions WHAT IS YOUR GAME, BRO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: WHAT IS YOUR GAME, BRO. Why do I feel like he’s probably defended Zach in the past, using the Buffalo game and 5-2 as the key to the argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuicidalSince98 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, FidelioJet said: ? no he wasn’t ? a better game by game comp would be wilson week 17 last year or wilson vs NE v2 this year. On the road, against a top D, in horrible weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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