Mike White: Elite Throws Buffalo

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

Here is a good film review by jetsfactor.com that shows several of White’s elite throws against the Bills.  Always helpful to see in slow motion and from different angles.  The reviewer shows the good & bad and clearly has a knowledge of QB concepts and reads.

White’s anticipation and willingness to hang tight in the pocket (in the face of pressure) are becoming clear strengths.  While his arm strength doesn’t JUMP out, it is good enough when you factor in the above + his accuracy, quick decisions and field vision.  I would add in that he also navigates traffic well using touch / changing the trajectory of the ball.  You might recall he also did the latter well on a medium corner route to Davis against the Vikings in Jets territory.  

Check it out if interested.

https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/12/14/ny-jets-qb-mike-white-buffalo-film/

 

[usanyj]

Still can’t believe a penalty wasn’t called on the defender for hitting Wilson when he had taken two full steps out of bounds.

[DireJet]

1 minute ago, usanyj said:

Still can’t believe a penalty wasn’t called on the defender for hitting Wilson when he had taken two full steps out of bounds.

Jets better get some calls on Sunday because it was a freaking joke up there in Buffalo last weekend. 

[ylekram]

31 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Here is a good film review by jetsfactor.com that shows several of White’s elite throws against the Bills.  Always helpful to see in slow motion and from different angles.  The reviewer shows the good & bad and clearly has a knowledge of QB concepts and reads.

White’s anticipation and willingness to hang tight in the pocket (in the face of pressure) are becoming clear strengths.  While his arm strength doesn’t JUMP out, it is good enough when you factor in the above + his accuracy, quick decisions and field vision.  I would add in that he also navigates traffic well using touch / changing the trajectory of the ball.  You might recall he also did the latter well on a medium corner route to Davis against the Vikings in Jets territory.  

Check it out if interested.

https://jetsxfactor.com/2022/12/14/ny-jets-qb-mike-white-buffalo-film/

 

nothing about mike white is "elite" he has some good qualities and bad, but nothing is elite. geeze

[DireJet]

1 minute ago, ylekram said:

nothing about mike white is "elite" he has some good qualities and bad, but nothing is elite. geeze

He’s not a finished product but he’s making some throws — under extreme pressure — that not many guys in the league can make. Mike T even admitted as much on Cimini’s podcast.

Makes you wonder what’s possible with more starts this year and then a full training camp next year as the starter. it’s exciting. There’s talent and he’s still ascending. 

[jetswinbaby!]

It may be just me but White reminds me a little of Joe Burrow...

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

14 minutes ago, ylekram said:

nothing about mike white is "elite" he has some good qualities and bad, but nothing is elite. geeze

The throws were elite, doesn’t mean he has elite physical attributes.  But he can make some great throws.

Geez!  Man even when trying to add caveats, etc and not be overly positive, it’s the same old sh*te from some people.

I’d get farther engaging in a discussion with a wall.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

7 minutes ago, DireJet said:

He’s not a finished product but he’s making some throws — under extreme pressure — that not many guys in the league can make. Mike T even admitted as much on Cimini’s podcast.

Makes you wonder what’s possible with more starts this year and then a full training camp next year as the starter. it’s exciting. There’s talent and he’s still ascending. 

Back to an adult conversation.  Thanks DireJets.

[DireJet]

9 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

The throws were elite, doesn’t mean he has elite physical attributes.  But he can make some great throws.

Geez!  Man even when trying to add caveats, etc and not be overly positive, it’s the same old sh*te from some people.

I’d get farther having engaging in a discussion with a wall.

Mike White was thought to be a joke by a lot of people and he’s proven them wrong at every turn.

He did it last year and then the naysayers thought the Buffalo game was the “gotcha” moment. He came back this year and went from 3rd string to usurping the starting role in the heat of a playoff race. And to those who really understand football … he’s been wildly impressive considering the circumstances.

The naysayers are once again waiting for the other shoe to drop. If MW’s current trajectory continues, I expect him to be starting Week 1 for an NFL team in 23 — Jets or not. And he will be a Top 10-15 QB on the year.

Guy just keeps getting better. Who knows where the ceiling is? People need to stop capping him and putting him in a box. Let’s see what happens. 

[THE BARON]

20 minutes ago, DireJet said:

He’s not a finished product but he’s making some throws — under extreme pressure — that not many guys in the league can make. Mike T even admitted as much on Cimini’s podcast.

Makes you wonder what’s possible with more starts this year and then a full training camp next year as the starter. it’s exciting. There’s talent and he’s still ascending. 

Watching the hits White took by the free rushers, I had the idea that he could have gotten off the mark and still made the play.  A guy coming in like that can't change direction that easily.  White could have shifted to the right or left after seeing a guy was coming clean.  Seems like he does not navigate the pocket at all.  Opposite of Zach Wilson who bails out on a clean pocket with no rushers baring down on him.  Mahomes or Brady would not have taken those hits.  Brady is not mobile like Mahomes, but he is masterful with that single step in a single direction at the right time.  

[DireJet]

4 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

Watching the hits White took by the free rushers, I had the idea that he could have gotten off the mark and still made the play.  A guy coming in like that can't change direction that easily.  White could have shifted to the right or left after seeing a guy was coming clean.  Seems like he does not navigate the pocket at all.  Opposite of Zach Wilson who bails out on a clean pocket with no rushers baring down on him.  Mahomes or Brady would not have taken those hits.  Brady is not mobile like Mahomes, but he is masterful with that single step in a single direction at the right time.  

Agreed. MW has to get lighter on his feet. Like I said, he’s not a finished product. He needs to work on his quickness and lateral movement in the pocket. But there’s no reason to think he can’t do it. Guy’s gotten so much better and he was languishing as the 3rd stringer for much of the year. He’s already put in the work in a position where most would not. 

[Beerfish]

Last two games;

58% completion

0 tds

2 ints

A total of 34 points scored

2 loses to put the jets out of the playoffs.

The glorifying of Mike White is over the top, can't wait till he actually wins some games and puts us back firmly in the playoffs,

[Gen X Jet]

50 minutes ago, DireJet said:

Jets better get some calls on Sunday because it was a freaking joke up there in Buffalo last weekend. 

NFL wants golden boy in the Super Bowl before Buffalo (Meth City) gets into cap hell.

[gdfodder]

Last two games;
58% completion
0 tds
2 ints
A total of 34 points scored
2 loses to put the jets out of the playoffs.
The glorifying of Mike White is over the top, can't wait till he actually wins some games and puts us back firmly in the playoffs,

Blasphemy! Can’t talk about M freakin W like that.


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[56mehl56]

2 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said:

It may be just me but White reminds me a little of Joe Burrow...

Big difference Burrow has very good mobility.  

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

2 hours ago, jetswinbaby! said:

It may be just me but White reminds me a little of Joe Burrow...

I was actually thinking, after he gets more time under his belt, a “poor man’s” Joe Montana….just watch.

[Jetsfan80]

Elite throws don’t matter only team wins and losses…. don’t you know anything bruh?

[Larz]

The two outs to Wilson were fire ?

[Integrity28]

3 hours ago, DireJet said:

Jets better get some calls on Sunday because it was a freaking joke up there in Buffalo last weekend. 

Minnesota, too.

[T0mShane]

You people are unbelievable. Mike White gets his brains beat in while making high-level throws we haven’t seen around these parts since Favre and you, Jets fans, are too good for it? Despicable. You deserve the Zach Wilson/Jimmy Garoppolo sandwich you’re going to choke on for the next three years, you ingrate meatballs. 

[Jetsfan80]

38 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

You people are unbelievable. Mike White gets his brains beat in while making high-level throws we haven’t seen around these parts since Favre and you, Jets fans, are too good for it? Despicable. You deserve the Zach Wilson/Jimmy Garoppolo sandwich you’re going to choke on for the next three years, you ingrate meatballs. 

Some here want to trade assets for Derek Carr on his $40M per year salary, even though White’s stats on a per-game basis are superior to Carr’s.

Absurd.  

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Some here want to trade assets for Derek Carr on his $40M per year salary, even though White’s stats on a per-game basis are superior to Carr’s.

Absurd.  

 

[Jetsfan80]

46 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

Ingrates.  All of em.

[rangerous]

i don't think a qb can last that long in the nfl without having the ability to make those elite throws.  i know the talking heads said not many can make them but what they mean is can't make them during a game when there's pressure or an actual defender in the way.  white has been playing well.  it's hard to say why they haven't been scoring tds of late.  maybe the jets are getting predictable.  it doesn't help that the oline is still being shuffled around because oline play is the key to red zone scoring.

hopefully the jets can put it all together on sunday.  it's not win and in but it certainly makes it easier over the next three games.

[SuicidalSince98]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

You people are unbelievable. Mike White gets his brains beat in while making high-level throws we haven’t seen around these parts since Favre and you, Jets fans, are too good for it? Despicable. You deserve the Zach Wilson/Jimmy Garoppolo sandwich you’re going to choke on for the next three years, you ingrate meatballs. 

I thought he played very well, but I can’t help but feel like the “getting your brain beat” part is his own doing because of his style of play and limitations. If a QB needs to expose themselves to brutal hits in order to be effective… that isn’t very sustainable. 

[BroadwayJoe12]

26 minutes ago, SuicidalSince98 said:

I thought he played very well, but I can’t help but feel like the “getting your brain beat” part is his own doing because of his style of play and limitations. If a QB needs to expose themselves to brutal hits in order to be effective… that isn’t very sustainable. 

The alternative is to run backwards, with your back to the field, for 15 yards, scramble a bit, then, at best, throw the ball away. Point is taken, he has to take care of himself, but the alternative is unwatchable football. 

[JiFtheOracle]

10 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Last two games;

58% completion

0 tds

2 ints

A total of 34 points scored

2 loses to put the jets out of the playoffs.

The glorifying of Mike White is over the top, can't wait till he actually wins some games and puts us back firmly in the playoffs,

quick, do Wilson's last 2 games, included the win total!

[Dunnie]

quick, do Wilson's last 2 games, included the win total!

True .. but two wrongs don't make a right.

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[Biggs]

Some of his throws to the sidelines were terrific.  He has a nice live arm.  He is slow as molasas and built like a twig.  He needs to beef up during the offseason and work on his movement.   I don't think he makes it out of the season, maybe not out of next week.  He's shown his mentally tough but not physically tough.  

 

[JiFtheOracle]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

You people are unbelievable. Mike White gets his brains beat in while making high-level throws we haven’t seen around these parts since Favre and you, Jets fans, are too good for it? Despicable. You deserve the Zach Wilson/Jimmy Garoppolo sandwich you’re going to choke on for the next three years, you ingrate meatballs. 

 I've been over here, trying to educate, drop knowledge, fight the good fight but you know, I think the "you deserve Zach Wilson" angle, is the strongest point of contention any poster can make and it saves me from racking my brains trying to figure out ways to make the blind see the light.

[JiFtheOracle]

4 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

True .. but two wrongs don't make a right.

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[Larz]

7 hours ago, T0mShane said:

You people are unbelievable. Mike White gets his brains beat in while making high-level throws we haven’t seen around these parts since Favre and you, Jets fans, are too good for it? Despicable. You deserve the Zach Wilson/Jimmy Garoppolo sandwich you’re going to choke on for the next three years, you ingrate meatballs. 

nah. It’s all bias based on likability which Vegas still doesn’t seem to understand lol

[JiFtheOracle]

4 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Some of his throws to the sidelines were terrific.  He has a nice live arm.  He is slow as molasas and built like a twig.  He needs to beef up during the offseason and work on his movement.   I don't think he makes it out of the season, maybe not out of next week.  He's shown his mentally tough but not physically tough.  

 

[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

nah. It’s all bias based on likability which Vegas still doesn’t seem to understand lol

[Biggs]

3 minutes ago, JiFields said:

Mike White is a much better QB than Zach.  He's also much better QB  than Fields.  He's also slow as molasses and built like a twig.