This Just Isn't A Playoff Worthy Team

[SoFlaJets]

And no it's not because Zach Wilson, It's not because of Mike Whit'e 1-2 record it's because this coaching staff has played this wrong from start until now. Always making the WRONG calls when it comes down to who should be playing and when. It started with Flacco being named starter over White after Wilson's injury. Then continuing to stick Flacco back there as #2 when it should with Wilson or even Streveler.Today too.

The other and I consider this the biggest factor is the injuries piling up, and always at the most important positions, to the most important players. Always of course it has to always be QB first, then QB again then the O-line losing the core players then our star running back-always the best guys-I have been waiting all year for Sauce to go down-because this is THE JETS! Not for nothing but over the years I have seen many many many examples of QBs playing with the same injuries that Mike White has-they put on flak jackets and they step up-Mike White was perfectly willing to do just that.

Then of course there's the worst punter in the league who has given up two game-losing punt returns.  The last thing is the calls continue to cost the Jets games, they do, the interference on a TD pass today, The Pats games there were hits to Wilson's heads 3 different times in both games-no calls. The PR block in the back not called-cost the game. The Minn game so many non-calls while we got twice as many yards and penalties. The Jets need to start getting the respect from the league office.

I guess we still have a shot but I don't see Zach Wilson being able to step up and play 4 quarters of mistake-free football on Thursday

[Beerfish]

Wilson is poor but they lost two games with white at QB, I agree with your assessment.  Good, playoff teams over come some spotty QB play. 

The Jets gave up the kick return and had the lead late.  Whatever though all the ills of the team all of them are on Wilson it seems.

[greasyt]

As much as we want them to be, you're right.......this season falls in line with the natural progression of a true rebuild.....next year we take that next step....the following season we hoist the Lombardi

[SoFlaJets]

10 minutes ago, greasyt said:

As much as we want them to be, you're right.......this season falls in line with the natural progression of a true rebuild.....next year we take that next step....the following season we hoist the Lombardi

I just don't know Greasy, this team has two really bad things about it that carry through the ages. They Have really bad luck when it comes to injuries...for some reason, and I have no idea why but it used to happen to Namath too, I mean these devastating injuries that Joe would suffer were season-ending period see ya next stuff because there was no such thing as arthroscopic medicine back then, if you hurt your knee, there was a 3 inch slice down to the bone. The Next time it was the same thing.

The other thing about the Jets not only are they injury-prone and unlucky but they also do not get the respect from the league-thus NO CALLS. Next year it'll be the same crap-we'll lose our best players and struggle along with the mediocre. 

[Barry McCockinner]

There's no such thing as playoff worthy. You either qualify or you don't.

Win out and we're probably in riding a 3 game streak and plenty "worthy".

[SoFlaJets]

22 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

There's no such thing as playoff worthy. You either qualify or you don't.

Win out and we're probably in riding a 3 game streak and plenty "worthy".

Yea that's right either you're worthy enough to make the playoffs or you're not, that's called Playoff Worthy. Teams who allow game losing big plays to occur are NOT playoff worthy teams. Teams whose starting QB is a 51%  completion rating passer does NOT have a playoff worthy signal caller. Teams who lose 3 games in a row with the season and the playoffs on the line are not good enough to make the playoffs thus; unworthy of post-season play. And finally compared to the two teams I saw playing last night, up there in Buffalo these New York Jets are UN worthy of playing football in the post season.

[Ken Schroy]

This was the typical TEAM LOSS. The ST were very bad. Zach was very inconsistent. D was very bad especially when it counted. The HC sh*t the bed and thought TO's could be traded for cash after the game. If he calls a TO after GW makes his catch, there is 45 seconds on the clock. I do think Zach might have gotten them closer for a better FG attempt. But Jets.

[CanadienJetsFan]

IMO, From the coaching staff all the way down, the team isn’t yet ready for prime time.

The talent is a whole lot better, but once guys like Breece and AVT went down, we soon realized there’s still more work to be done depth-wise.

Management’s goal was to be playing meaningful games in December this season.

Mission accomplished.

But next year simply needs to be a “playoffs or bust” year

But, many questions loom. 

The biggest is whether you still want to commit to developing Zach.If they are, then Even Lafleur’s offensive scheme needs to be looked at as well. For to me, I just don’t think he’s exploiting Zach’s better qualities like roll outs, etc. It’s like trying to plug a square peg in a round hole.

But, I digress. I’ve said it millions of times since Saleh was hired last year that Rookie HC, Rookie OC, Rookie DC AND A ROOKIE QB = lots of growing pains

A playoff appearance this season would have been a bonus. This team needs to learn how to win ugly. They had a chance in Minnesota, they failed. They had a chance in Buffalo, same conclusion and today, more of the same. This so called playoff ready defence had the chance to close out the game and well, you all saw it.

stay tuned.

[Vudu]

Jets will suck forever

[usapaw]

Yup, they are a year out and if not; Saleh and Douglas are gone. 

[BurntDice]

Injuries have killed this team. Becton, AVT, Q, Davis, Hall among others 

[CanadienJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, DLJ said:

Jets will suck forever

Correction, cursed forever!

[JetPotato]

They are not a playoff worthy team specifically because the QB position is part of team.

[SoFlaJets]

Just now, JetPotato said:

They are not a playoff worthy team specifically because the QB position is part of team.

They're going to have to make a decision about what to do with this Zach Wilson situation. I'm SURE Saleh will have all these accolades about Wilson, but truth be told, he wasn't good enough. You can't automatically forfeit 3-5 series every game because of the QB not being able to complete passes and convert on 3rd downs. Whether it's going to be Mike White or not who knows-all I know is Wilson is NOT the guy, he's NOT good or even just barely good enough

[PS17]

A little slow, a little late 

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

49 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Wilson is poor but they lost two games with white at QB, I agree with your assessment.  Good, playoff teams over come some spotty QB play. 

The Jets gave up the kick return and had the lead late.  Whatever though all the ills of the team all of them are on Wilson it seems.

Obviously it’s not all on wilson. But he was the 2nd overall pick and has played like sh*t for 2 years straight now. Of course the fans aren’t going to be happy with the last rated qb in the league. When you’re picked that high there are high expectations. And he has failed to live up to them by every measure. Qb is the most important position so it gets most of the attention.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

You can’t have a QB carousel all season, with poor QB play, along with a slew of injuries to the OL and really hope the defense can just carry you. Only so much you can do. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Losses are rarely if ever on just one player 

Today is no exception

But if anybody is pleased with this caliber of play from a #2 overall pick, their standards are exceedingly low

The defense has to be lights out to win games like this when the QB isn’t getting it done, and they fell short 

[K_O_Brien]

We've improved a ton, but could easily finish 8-9. 

It's one thing to from a four win team to an eight win one. It's much harder to take that next step again, the jump from eight wins to eleven. 

I think under this current coaching staff, we're as likely to stagnate next year, as we are to improve. 

[Beerfish]

3 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

Obviously it’s not all on wilson. But he was the 2nd overall pick and has played like sh*t for 2 years straight now. Of course the fans aren’t going to be happy with the last rated qb in the league. When you’re picked that high there are high expectations. And he has failed to live up to them by every measure. Qb is the most important position so it gets most of the attention.

He's bad we all know this, however three loses in a row, two of them under white and then today shows this team is not as shi* hot as us or the coaches seemed to think.  If the team thinks that a minor upgrade to Qb will solve all they are in for a rude surprise, defense and specials have utterly failed the last 3 games as much as the qbing.

[New York Mick]

They need to sign White, get a vet QB, pick up a starting OT, add depth to the Oline, get multiple LBs, add another WR that can stay healthy, get open and catch the ball, add a TE that’s actually a factor and call better games and might be able to make the playoffs next year. 

[JetPotato]

6 minutes ago, SoFlaJets said:

They're going to have to make a decision about what to do with this Zach Wilson situation. I'm SURE Saleh will have all these accolades about Wilson, but truth be told, he wasn't good enough. You can't automatically forfeit 3-5 series every game because of the QB not being able to complete passes and convert on 3rd downs. Whether it's going to be Mike White or not who knows-all I know is Wilson is NOT the guy, he's NOT good or even just barely good enough

Until today, I was thinking the move was to let Zach have the offseason, then compete against whatever vet they could acquire. His contract makes it likely they have to keep him and, long shot, but maybe he figures it out.

But after what I just saw, it all came flooding back to me. He's not redeemable. He's pure trash and the best thing for this team is to get him off the roster and into someone else's locker room.

I'd like White to be back. I see him as a very nice backup. But if he wants starter money (which he might get), then no thanks. I don't see enough upside to make me think he is capable of winning it all. The next QB has to have that in him. Has to. 

[FidelioJet]

21 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said:

This was the typical TEAM LOSS. The ST were very bad. Zach was very inconsistent. D was very bad especially when it counted. The HC sh*t the bed and thought TO's could be traded for cash after the game. If he calls a TO after GW makes his catch, there is 45 seconds on the clock. I do think Zach might have gotten them closer for a better FG attempt. But Jets.

I suspect every single one of us were screaming out our TV's to call a TO right after that play.  Mind boggling as to why they didn't.

[FidelioJet]

2 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Until today, I was thinking the move was to let Zach have the offseason, then compete against whatever vet they could acquire. His contract makes it likely they have to keep him and, long shot, but maybe he figures it out.

But after what I just saw, it all came flooding back to me. He's not redeemable. He's pure trash and the best thing for this team is to get him off the roster and into someone else's locker room.

I'd like White to be back. I see him as a very nice backup. But if he wants starter money (which he might get), then no thanks. I don't see enough upside to make me think he is capable of winning it all. The next QB has to have that in him. Has to. 

Would 400 yards and 5 TD's been enough to sway you?

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

BTW, did anyone think Zuerlein was making that kick?

Just never felt like the Jets day today 

 

[jgb]

22 minutes ago, DLJ said:

Jets will suck forever

Probably not forever but over the span of our lifetimes? Perhaps… halfway there (if I’m lucky).

[TNJet]

I agree we've had control of our own destiny for the past 3 weeks and we can't just win. I'm not worrying anymore about all the other turd teams losing....means nothing when you're losing yourself.

[SoFlaJets]

2 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Until today, I was thinking the move was to let Zach have the offseason, then compete against whatever vet they could acquire. His contract makes it likely they have to keep him and, long shot, but maybe he figures it out.

But after what I just saw, it all came flooding back to me. He's not redeemable. He's pure trash and the best thing for this team is to get him off the roster and into someone else's locker room.

I'd like White to be back. I see him as a very nice backup. But if he wants starter money (which he might get), then no thanks. I don't see enough upside to make me think he is capable of winning it all. The next QB has to have that in him. Has to. 

They're going to have to move on from Zach Wilson , because clearly this guy is not starting Quarterback material.  a 50-55% completion percentage player is not good enough in this game today. All it's doing is holding the team back.

[JetPotato]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

Would 400 yards and 5 TD's been enough to sway you?

Is this even a real question? Do you think that Zach's performance fell just a notch below 5 touchdowns? 

Watch the entire game. It's never about one drive. It's the back and forth, the field position, the offenses setting up the defenses, sustained drives, etc.

Zach puts us at a disadvantage in virtually every aspect of the game. Quick 3 and outs. Wide open receivers missed. Bone headed sacks and turnovers. It's so weird that the expectation is that these things are excusable, and the entire rest of the roster fails when they are unable to overcome the position one guy puts them in. That locker room turmoil all comes down to one kid who sucks at this sport.

[fullblast]

Neither is my fantasy football team but I’m still out here thuggin.

[FTL Jet Fan]

1 hour ago, SoFlaJets said:

And no it's not because Zach Wilson, It's not because of Mike Whit'e 1-2 record it's because this coaching staff has played this wrong from start until now. Always making the WRONG calls when it comes down to who should be playing and when. It started with Flacco being named starter over White after Wilson's injury. Then continuing to stick Flacco back there as #2 when it should with Wilson or even Streveler.Today too.

The other and I consider this the biggest factor is the injuries piling up, and always at the most important positions, to the most important players. Always of course it has to always be QB first, then QB again then the O-line losing the core players then our star running back-always the best guys-I have been waiting all year for Sauce to go down-because this is THE JETS! Not for nothing but over the years I have seen many many many examples of QBs playing with the same injuries that Mike White has-they put on flak jackets and they step up-Mike White was perfectly willing to do just that.

Then of course there's the worst punter in the league who has given up two game-losing punt returns.  The last thing is the calls continue to cost the Jets games, they do, the interference on a TD pass today, The Pats games there were hits to Wilson's heads 3 different times in both games-no calls. The PR block in the back not called-cost the game. The Minn game so many non-calls while we got twice as many yards and penalties. The Jets need to start getting the respect from the league office.

I guess we still have a shot but I don't see Zach Wilson being able to step up and play 4 quarters of mistake-free football on Thursday

Here's mine Jets 38 Lions 3 Bam Knight 3 TD runs Sauce Gardner a pick 6 and Quincy Williams a FF and he runs it in for a TD. Two Jets defensive TDs. What say ye my Jets brethren?
 

Please no more prediction threads. Undercover troll

[FidelioJet]

2 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Is this even a real question? Do you think that Zach's performance fell just a notch below 5 touchdowns? 

Watch the entire game. It's never about one drive. It's the back and forth, the field position, the offenses setting up the defenses, sustained drives, etc.

Zach puts us at a disadvantage in virtually every aspect of the game. Quick 3 and outs. Wide open receivers missed. Bone headed sacks and turnovers. It's so weird that the expectation is that these things are excusable, and the entire rest of the roster fails when they are unable to overcome the position one guy puts them in. That locker room turmoil all comes down to one kid who sucks at this sport.

Sometime I really feel like when you Zach Wilson - it's like you forget to watch other teams.  

QB's take sacks, QB's miss open receivers, QB's go 3 and out, QB's throw INT's.   It's a streaky game.  

I'm not saying Zach Wilson is the answer - I don't believe he is right now.  But his performance today was fine.  

Locker room turmoil?

[Neilos]

I'm resigned to missing out on the playoffs and now just pinning everything on beating patriots to 3rd place. I'm still going to be disappointed aren't I? 

[JetPotato]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Sometime I really feel like when you Zach Wilson - it's like you forget to watch other teams.  

QB's take sacks, QB's miss open receivers, QB's go 3 and out, QB's throw INT's.   It's a streaky game.  

I'm not saying Zach Wilson is the answer - I don't believe he is right now.  But his performance today was fine.  

Locker room turmoil?

Actually, watching other games is what makes me understand what people are capable of at the QB position. It has been a stark contrast from Jets QB play for a decade at least. Watching Bengals-Bucs right now. I haven't seen either QB make a single of the Wilsony failure plays that he makes routinely, multiple times per game. I haven't seen any of their receivers just thrown their hands up in exasperation either.

[JetPotato]

4 minutes ago, Neilos said:

I'm resigned to missing out on the playoffs and now just pinning everything on beating patriots to 3rd place. I'm still going to be disappointed aren't I? 

Yep.