One Big Reason For The Jets Slide—And It’s Not The Offense

[BroadwayRay]

Not a single defensive takeaway since the bye week. That’s five straight games without the defense forcing a turnover!

Saleh can beat his chest all he wants about his “elite” defense, but that’s pathetic, and I can’t help but believe coaching is partly to blame. The lack of turnovers was a big problem last year, too. This unit sucks at forcing and recovering fumbles, and on top of that our linebackers are far from elite in pass coverage, which is why teams focus on the short and intermediate passing game against us. CJ Mosley’s blown coverage on the Lions game winning play today is just the latest example. You’d think or Reed or Sauce would have more INTs, but teams don’t target them anymore.  
 

EDIT: someone correctly pointed out that I missed one turnover in those games — an interception in the Chicago game. So it’s four out of the last five games without a defensive takeaway. 

[varjet]

As we have discussed, the NFL is a coaches league.   Games are prepped in large part in the off-season. Players like Sauce, Reed, Breece, Garrett, etc. surprised the NFL.  They figured it out.  To make the playoffs teams have to adapt to being adapted.  

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

Not a single defensive takeaway since the bye week. That’s five straight games without the defense forcing a turnover!

Saleh can beat his chest all he wants about his “elite” defense, but that’s pathetic, and I can’t help but believe coaching is partly to blame. The lack of turnovers was a big problem last year, too. This unit sucks at forcing and recovering fumbles, and on top of that our linebackers are far from elite in pass coverage, which is why teams focus on the short and intermediate passing game against us. CJ Mosley’s blown coverage on the Lions game winning play today is just the latest example. You’d think or Reed or Sauce would have more INTs, but teams don’t target them anymore.  

The jets never knock the ball out.  

[chirorob]

They Jets are a decent team who lose the turnover battle every week.

Mosely with costly plays back to back weeks.   The jump offside against the Bills on 4th, and the utterly blown coverage today.

[nj meadowlands]

I noted the lack of turnovers today too. No idea whether it’s a fluke or a coaching issue. 

[varjet]

The Jets will need to incur some dead money next off season that will save it cap space.  Mosley is one of them.  Although Mosley was restructured to save cap space in 2022, the Jets are $4.5mm under the cap this season, so that will be carried forward.  If he does not radically restructure the Jets should rip the bandaid off with him.  Maybe same thing with Tomlinson.  

[Larz]

10 minutes ago, chirorob said:

They Jets are a decent team who lose the turnover battle every week.

Mosely with costly plays back to back weeks.   The jump offside against the Bills on 4th, and the utterly blown coverage today.

The coverage was on quincy. 

[PepPep]

18 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

Not a single defensive takeaway since the bye week. That’s five straight games without the defense forcing a turnover!

U sure. Mac jones and Trevor Siemian threw INTs against the Jets. They did not get INTs against Cousins, Allen and Goff. But fun stat. They held all three of those QBs to 1 passing TD. 

Once again. The problem is not the defense. 

[heymangold]

But it is the offense. Held the lions to 13 points offensively.  Offense just can’t score.

[pointman]

I expected more out of Lawson.

 

[HelpImAlive]

It’s because the Jets NEVER have the lead because the offense is terrible. 
 

The defense is also overrated because these teams play very conservatively until they have to. 

[BroadwayRay]

6 minutes ago, PepPep said:

U sure. Mac jones and Trevor Siemian threw INTs against the Jets. They did not get INTs against Cousins, Allen and Goff. But fun stat. They held all three of those QBs to 1 passing TD. 

Once again. The problem is not the defense. 

You’re right, Siemian threw one interception in the Chicago game — I missed that. But that’s the only takeaway I see in those five games. The Jones interception was the first NE game before the bye.  

[Rangers9]

The special teams allowed a punt return for a Td and those were the winning points. Plus field position all day was not good. 

[PepPep]

18 minutes ago, BroadwayRay said:

You’re right, Siemian threw one interception in the Chicago game — I missed that. But that’s the only takeaway I see in those five games. The Jones interception was the first NE game before the bye.  

Fair enough. I guess the bigger point is that the Jets have two shut down corners and their starting safeties- Joyner and Whitehead have combined for 5 INTs this year. That is a massive improvement from last year. Yes, more turnovers are always good and the latest drought is certainly not helping but this is not a defense that is incapable of forcing turnovers like last years. 

The biggest reason for this slide- Bears game aside- has been the Jets offense not being able to get the ball in the endzone and score consistently. Most of this falls on the shoulders of the QB.