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There's A Very Obvious "Disaster Scenario" Facing This Franchise On Thursday


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Jax wins

Zach plays poorly while Trevor plays great.  (We missed out by 1 pick and we get to see, up close, what a developing FQB looks like)

The fans start booing Zach out of frustration

Garret Wilson does "antics" again after bad throws by Zach

There's arguing on the sidelines because the team is upset with Saleh leaving ZW in.

Post-game there's a mix of cryptic and not-so-cryptic complaints and talk about the future direction of the franchise.

Sports radio goes off the next day.

The Jets go into a major funk and lose their final 2 on the road to finish 7-10.  (Not really part of Thursday but just fallout from it).

 

That would absolutely destroy any good feelings from this season.  Imagine if our superstar young WR (GW) ends up wanting nothing to do with ZW?

Sadly, none of this seems far-fetched to me.  

 

EDIT: This feels like the biggest game of the season to me.  It could be franchise-changing (in a toxic way) if we lose.  

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36 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Jax wins

Zach plays poorly while Trevor plays great.  (We missed out by 1 pick and we get to see, up close, what a developing FQB looks like)

The fans start booing Zach out of frustration

Garret Wilson does "antics" again after bad throws by Zach

There's arguing on the sidelines because the team is upset with Saleh leaving ZW in.

Post-game there's a mix of cryptic and not-so-cryptic complaints and talk about the future direction of the franchise.

Sports radio goes off the next day.

The Jets go into a major funk and lose their final 2 on the road to finish 7-10.  (Not really part of Thursday but just fallout from it).

 

That would absolutely destroy any good feelings from this season.  Imagine if our superstar young WR (GW) ends up wanting nothing to do with ZW?

Sadly, none of this seems far-fetched to me.  

 

EDIT: This feels like the biggest game of the season to me.  It could be franchise-changing (in a toxic way) if we lose.  

Eh. You're talking about a lot of things happening. Not just the Jets losing. Not just Trevor playing great and Zach sucking. 

Regardless of wins and losses the rest of the way, at worst we go into the offseason with no QB (assuming Zach sits) but a great young core on both sides of the ball.  

Saleh is not going anywhere. Neither is the rest of the coaching staff. JD is not going anywhere. 

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At this point in the Jets development they are not rebuilding anymore.  This is not a empty roster.  The Jets and their players are trying to win, this year and next year, regardless if it means playoffs.

The Jets are an improved team.  They are improving.  In 2020 it was 2 wins.  2021 4 wins.  2022-hopefully at least 8 wins.  It could very likely be only 7.

Unless Zach Wilson has an absolute epiphany and is brilliant these next 3 weeks, the Jets are looking for another QB next year.  I am thinking they just draft the best available QB in rd 1.   But it will likely be a veteran.

This is huge-because unlike the Chiefs, Bills, Texans, Chargers, Bengals, etc., rather than riding a rookie contract for 4 years,, the Jet are now carrying a maximum rookie contract and will have to pay a new QB.   It will be a challenge to win 8 games next season as well.  The Jets are now pursuing a parallel path of continuing to develop Zach Wilson (if for nothing other than trade value) and trying to find a new franchise QB, again, in a Conference full of generational QBs.

Of all the generational QBs in the AFC, the Jets passed on all of them except Burrow and Herbert.  The Jets-the organization (which does not include Joe Douglas), passed on Mahomes, Watson, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.   That is why the Jets are where they are now.  

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14 minutes ago, hotrodcharlie said:

Even if the Jets lose, ya know, Zach Wilson "got us to contention right up to the final week" and maybe they get rid of the wrong guys (LaFleur, Eli Moore, Mike White) in the offseason

JD and the coaching staff will not be evaluating Zach Wilson by thinking- he "got us to contention right up to the final week". That's how fans think. 

Mike White is a FA who will want starter money. I don't know why the Jets would want to re-sign him and commit to him as a starter. Or conversely have him be a backup while being paid to be a starter. Makes absolutely no sense. They can and should do better if they want to win. 

Saleh is not going anywhere next season. Neither is MLF, neither is Ulbrich. Neither is JD. Just accept it. 

If Moore goes its only via trade for more than he is worth. At least that is my personal opinion. JD does not give away good players for nothing. So if he does trade Moore and get great value, I'm fine with it. 

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9 minutes ago, PepPep said:

JD and the coaching staff will not be evaluating Zach Wilson by thinking- he "got us to contention right up to the final week". That's how fans think. 

 

You are correct but the meddling owner is a fanboy who thinks like that and has stepped in on numerous occasions to make decisions like this

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5 minutes ago, hotrodcharlie said:

You are correct but the meddling owner is a fanboy who thinks like that and has stepped in on numerous occasions to make decisions like this

he agreed to bench Wilson.  Think you are wrong about him pushing for ZW at the end of the season.

any fanboy can see Zach is sucking big time.

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1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Jax wins

Zach plays poorly while Trevor plays great.  (We missed out by 1 pick and we get to see, up close, what a developing FQB looks like)

The fans start booing Zach out of frustration

Garret Wilson does "antics" again after bad throws by Zach

There's arguing on the sidelines because the team is upset with Saleh leaving ZW in.

Post-game there's a mix of cryptic and not-so-cryptic complaints and talk about the future direction of the franchise.

Sports radio goes off the next day.

The Jets go into a major funk and lose their final 2 on the road to finish 7-10.  (Not really part of Thursday but just fallout from it).

 

That would absolutely destroy any good feelings from this season.  Imagine if our superstar young WR (GW) ends up wanting nothing to do with ZW?

Sadly, none of this seems far-fetched to me.  

 

EDIT: This feels like the biggest game of the season to me.  It could be franchise-changing (in a toxic way) if we lose.  

frankly, if that happens then it speaks more of the team and saleh than wilson.  this game is theirs if they want it.  it's time for the whole team to start living up to their press clippings of 4 or 5 weeks ago.  they need to get some turnovers.

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1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Jax wins

Zach plays poorly while Trevor plays great.  (We missed out by 1 pick and we get to see, up close, what a developing FQB looks like)

The fans start booing Zach out of frustration

Garret Wilson does "antics" again after bad throws by Zach

There's arguing on the sidelines because the team is upset with Saleh leaving ZW in.

Post-game there's a mix of cryptic and not-so-cryptic complaints and talk about the future direction of the franchise.

Sports radio goes off the next day.

The Jets go into a major funk and lose their final 2 on the road to finish 7-10.  (Not really part of Thursday but just fallout from it).

 

That would absolutely destroy any good feelings from this season.  Imagine if our superstar young WR (GW) ends up wanting nothing to do with ZW?

Sadly, none of this seems far-fetched to me.  

 

EDIT: This feels like the biggest game of the season to me.  It could be franchise-changing (in a toxic way) if we lose.  

Where have you been?  It seems like every single year your scenario plays out in one form or another.  It's just that this year, the Jets at 7-4 felt like this would end up being a special year.

One year, I think the Jets were like 10-1, and then proceeded to lose 5 games in a row to end the season.  How about that for imploding? 

You want more?  That same year, after ending the season 10-6, they go to the playoffs, only to lose to the Cleveland Browns in double overtime, after the Jets lead by 10 points in the 4th quarter.  In that game, the game was virtually over, except Mark the jerk off Gastineau, had to kill the QB after the play was over on 4th down, only to get called on a 15 yard penalty, giving the Browns new life to get back in the game.

It was 1986 actually.  Go ahead and look it up!

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2 minutes ago, rangerous said:

frankly, if that happens then it speaks more of the team and saleh than wilson.  this game is theirs if they want it.  it's time for the whole team to start living up to their press clippings of 4 or 5 weeks ago.  they need to get some turnovers.

This is silly. 

The team can play a perfect game and lose because their QB is completely incompetent. We pretty much saw this happen against the Pats. Yes, it was a special teams blunder that did them in. But The fact that Zach could not lead them on a single TD drive is why they lost. 

The game IS theirs if they want it. But everybody has to do their part. And the QB takes on more responsibility than almost everyone else on the team. He's the leader. He's the guy that's got to get them over the hump. Overcome the mistakes of others.  

"You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first. The leader of a team who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback."

-Tony D'Amato 

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TT2, this might actually be the best scenario because it would force them to go back to MW (against their will).

Losing to the Jags wouldn't necessarily eliminate them from playoff contention.

The odds become steeper obviously, but in that scenario, they could still win the last 2 and get in with 9 wins.

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8 minutes ago, Alka said:

Where have you been?  It seems like every single year your scenario plays out in one form or another.  It's just that this year, the Jets at 7-4 felt like this would end up being a special year.

One year, I think the Jets were like 10-1, and then proceeded to lose 5 games in a row to end the season.  How about that for imploding? 

You want more?  That same year, after ending the season 10-6, they go to the playoffs, only to lose to the Cleveland Browns in double overtime, after the Jets lead by 10 points in the 4th quarter.  In that game, the game was virtually over, except Mark the jerk off Gastineau, had to kill the QB after the play was over on 4th down, only to get called on a 15 yard penalty, giving the Browns new life to get back in the game.

It was 1986 actually.  Go ahead and look it up!

 

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Jaguars were in the depths of hell last year with Urban Meyer, so compared with where they are now, they're feeling pretty good, and they just beat the cowboys. The Jets on the other hand just lost in a demoralizing fashion to the Lions and are 1-3 in the last 4 games. It's going to be a cold, wet, dreary evening that just might start off bad and progressively get worse. The Jets can't/won't run the ball, so it's just a matter of when Zach tosses his first interception. He'll torpedo a wet, slimy one, it'll get tipped off the outstretched fingers of Berrios, wobble in the air and flop down into the arms of Rayshawn Jenkins. There will be at least 3 more Jets turnovers in this game. No one gives a sh*t because they that no matter how hard they try, someone will find a way to lose. The turnovers, the sh*tty punts, the horrible field position... it's just gonna grind 'em down. Don't worry about Garrett Wilson, he won't go epic like Antonio Brown, he'll just sulk on the sidelines. The locker room will be funeral quite after the game. 

Who knows, maybe somebody will fall off and escalator and die. Merry Christmas!

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9 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

CUE the "WHAT YOU GUYS ALL EXPECT, WE ARE A YOUNG TEAM!!!" crowd lol

In 2023 we will still be a "young team guys!" lol

These fans never want to win

Lol. We’re gonna be right up against the cap paying a lot of “young guys” next year. Seems strange! 

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58 minutes ago, hotrodcharlie said:

The worst is winning 13-10 in the rain. Zach Wilson has a Zach Wilson game where he throws most the balls in the dirt, takes stupid sacks and looks generally like dogsh*t but they win right?

Yupp.  Having to listen to the vocal minority scream about Zach being “6-3!!!!”  For 10 days while 90 % of the board knows Zach isn’t the guy is easily the worst-case scenario. 

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15 minutes ago, PepPep said:

This is silly. 

The team can play a perfect game and lose because their QB is completely incompetent. We pretty much saw this happen against the Pats. Yes, it was a special teams blunder that did them in. But The fact that Zach could not lead them on a single TD drive is why they lost. 

The game IS theirs if they want it. But everybody has to do their part. And the QB takes on more responsibility than almost everyone else on the team. He's the leader. He's the guy that's got to get them over the hump. Overcome the mistakes of others.  

"You're a goddamn quarterback! You know what that means? It's the top spot, kid. It's the guy who takes the fall. It's the guy everybody's looking at first. The leader of a team who will support you when they understand you. Who will break their ribs and their noses and their necks for you, because they believe. 'Cause you make them believe. That's a quarterback."

-Tony D'Amato 

yes but he led them to 2 tds on sunday and they still lost.  they lost because of a punt returned for a td and a late 50 yard td pass.  sounds like the specials and the defense didn't hold up their end very well.

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1 hour ago, Sammybighead said:

You think the stuff you listed is the "disaster" scenario? All of those things already have happened.

I can think of way worse disaster scenarios than that.

But this game will be amplified.  There's no more slack.  We need to win out.   And watching TL play great (should it happen) will feel extra painful.  

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17 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

TT2, this might actually be the best scenario because it would force them to go back to MW (against their will).

Losing to the Jags wouldn't necessarily eliminate them from playoff contention.

The odds become steeper obviously, but in that scenario, they could still win the last 2 and get in with 9 wins.

Is that right?  I thought we'd have to win out to have a realistic chance.

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25 minutes ago, Alka said:

You want more?  That same year, after ending the season 10-6, they go to the playoffs, only to lose to the Cleveland Browns in double overtime, after the Jets lead by 10 points in the 4th quarter.  In that game, the game was virtually over, except Mark the jerk off Gastineau, had to kill the QB after the play was over on 4th down, only to get called on a 15 yard penalty, giving the Browns new life to get back in the game.

Gastineau and Carl Howard. 

Though I'm not saying we've never imploded before.  I'm just saying this game has the potential for things to get toxic. 

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It is a bit of an exciting and scarey time for the jets and jet fans.  Some might say a bad scenario would be for the jets win and wilson to look just good enough to stick as starter, perhaps wins another of the last two then the team loses one of the other games and misses the playoffs.

After that we are at a point where the team has to decide if wilson is the guy or not or something in between.  I think it is clear the team and for sure the fans like white better so any success by wilson re wins down the stretch really clouds the qb issue.

If the jets win all games and make the playoffs great, if they lose all games and flop out of the playoffs, not good but at least it is know that QB situation must change.  Some success but not playoffs and there is a whole lot of ???? going into next year as to what to do.

 

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