TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Correa is scheduled for a presser to sign with the Giants it’s cancelled and two days later he signs with the Mets (for less money). I thought the reason they cancelled the presser was uncertainty about his physical. I guess the story will come out. Did the Giants get cold feet or were there legit questions about his health. Correa is a great player but Mets already have a 300 million plus shortstop. Personally I like Escobar he carried the Mets offensively for a stretch last year plus he’s a good defensive third baseman. I’m for players getting good contracts but not for teams buying championships. And it doesn’t always work out that way sometimes lower budget teams very competitive like the Rays. I don't love it either. It's far less fun to root for a team like this than a young, hungry team. The Braves feel like they're constructed perfectly to me. I thought the Mets' plan was going to be FA for 2-3 years while developing the minors (3 first rounders this year, unless we lose one for Correa) and then try to recreate what the Braves did. But the Correa signing changes that story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiF Posted December 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: Another childish response. I don't care about this in the least. It doesn't affect the Yankees in any way. If anything, it probably helps wake up the loser Hal Stenibrenner a little. So, thanks, Steve. I just find it hilarious. No self awareness at all from the fanbase. You're celebrating things you hated on for a long time. I hope them the best. Nothing is better in baseball summer than when both NY teams are good. I'd love another Subway Series. But from a pure baseball perspective, I'm not overly impressed. I'd still take the Braves or Dodgers as the favorites in the NL. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, JiFields said: You're fun (in your stupidity). It's hilarious, honestly, that you think this meme is even fitting for this situation. Tells me a lot about you and reinforces what I said about Mets fans in general. No self awareness, and you typically seem to be getting ahead of yourself (what have they won again?) What exactly am I supposed to be upset about? That Cohen is driving prices up to where only big market teams are going to be able retain stars, one of which I root for? He's basically blowing up the entire system that was built to punish George years ago. The timing is actually wonderful. Today is Judge's press conference and I'm sure the media will be pounding away at Hal/Brian on questions about Cohen's spending. I feel for Giants fans. This offseason has been a train wreck for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Who's the Indians player? Is that Bauer? I don't know if this a person Cohen wants to be involved with... bit of a psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, JetPotato said: LOL What does this have to do with the Yankees? It's so funny as a Yankees fan watching this unfold. Mets fans were forever hating on the Yankees' willingness to spend and "ruin baseball", now they love it when their guy does it. By the way, this is unprecedented. Not even George Steinbrenner went this far. The Mets are approaching a $500 million payroll. They'll spend >60% more than the 2nd biggest payroll (and aren't going to win a thing). They're going to pay more in luxury tax than a handful of teams spend on payroll. "Uncle Stevie" (dumbest nickname I've ever heard, but in line with "Timmy Trumpet" or whatever that stupid thing is) is about to learn a hard lesson. Not that he cares. The real-life Bobby Axelrod will just keep stealing money to feed his hobbies. Like clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, JetPotato said: You're fun (in your stupidity). It's hilarious, honestly, that you think this meme is even fitting for this situation. Tells me a lot about you and reinforces what I said about Mets fans in general. No self awareness, and you typically seem to be getting ahead of yourself (what have they won again?) What exactly am I supposed to be upset about? That Cohen is driving prices up to where only big market teams are going to be able retain stars, one of which I root for? He's basically blowing up the entire system that was built to punish George years ago. The timing is actually wonderful. Today is Judge's press conference and I'm sure the media will be pounding away at Hal/Brian on questions about Cohen's spending. I feel for Giants fans. This offseason has been a train wreck for them. I honestly have no idea wtf you're talking about. I could not give 2 sh*ts about what another fanbase feels right now. Hence the gifs rather than words. But, you seems upset...this is what, your 3rd or 4th post in a Mets thread trying to poopoo on their joy? lol Would you like me to apologize for the Mets and Mets fans that have hurt you in the past? Because I'm confused by your behavior. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JiFields said: Whoa, huge, ...playing 3rd???? 3 hours ago, JiFields said: So, Correa, Lindor, McNeil/Escobar, Alonso is the infield???? holy sh*t 3 hours ago, JiFields said: I'm still in shock, @32EBoozer remember that bat, somewhere, somehow we needed???? woot woot!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, VJphillyfan said: Can Steve Cohen buy the jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, JiFields said: I honestly have no idea wtf you're talking about. I could not give 2 sh*ts about what another fanbase feels right now. Hence the gifs rather than words. But, you seems upset...this is what, your 3rd or 4th post in a Mets thread trying to poopoo on their joy? lol Would you like me to apologize for the Mets and Mets fans that have hurt you in the past? Because I'm confused by your behavior. It's the baseball topic of the day. It has a huge impact on the game overall. I was forced to continue by your lack of comprehension... again. I guess I'll just have to limit my interactions with people who exhibit human adult IQs from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 hours ago, LockeJET said: This offseason, they added: • Carlos Correa ($315M) • Brandon Nimmo ($162M) • Edwin Diaz ($102M) • Justin Verlander ($86.6M) • Kodai Senga ($75M) • Jose Quintana ($26M) • Ottavino+Robertson ($24M) Total: $790M Cohen probably makes that in 6-12 months, What is he worth 19 Billion? The team does make him money also. Spend away Steve buy the dynasty then rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, JetPotato said: Another childish response. I don't care about this in the least. It doesn't affect the Yankees in any way. If anything, it probably helps wake up the loser Hal Stenibrenner a little. So, thanks, Steve. I just find it hilarious. No self awareness at all from the fanbase. You're celebrating things you hated on for a long time. I hope them the best. Nothing is better in baseball summer than when both NY teams are good. I'd love another Subway Series. But from a pure baseball perspective, I'm not overly impressed. I'd still take the Braves or Dodgers as the favorites in the NL. Sounds like you’re a little fried from this, Potato. No need to be so salty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, JetPotato said: It's the baseball topic of the day. It has a huge impact on the game overall. I was forced to continue by your lack of comprehension... again. I guess I'll just have to limit my interactions with people who exhibit human adult IQs from now on. really dude? lmfao. I should have stuck w/ the gifs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: LOL What does this have to do with the Yankees? It's so funny as a Yankees fan watching this unfold. Mets fans were forever hating on the Yankees' willingness to spend and "ruin baseball", now they love it when their guy does it. By the way, this is unprecedented. Not even George Steinbrenner went this far. The Mets are approaching a $500 million payroll. They'll spend >60% more than the 2nd biggest payroll (and aren't going to win a thing). They're going to pay more in luxury tax than a handful of teams spend on payroll. "Uncle Stevie" (dumbest nickname I've ever heard, but in line with "Timmy Trumpet" or whatever that stupid thing is) is about to learn a hard lesson. Not that he cares. The real-life Bobby Axelrod will just keep stealing money to feed his hobbies. if you grew up in NYC and had a bunch of friends chances are they were a mix of Mets, Yankees, Jets, Giants, Ranger, Islanders fans. only the Knicks were always loved cause the Nets were so bad in the 80s when i grew up. and they were NJ. having to hear about all those championships and you guys getting whoever you wanted in FA while the Mets didnt, as a teen you hear sh*t about it. i am the guy they were thinking about when they made that shirt.... im a Mets fan and whoever is playing the Yankees. im a Jets fan and whoever is playing the Giants. honestly that NE- Gaints SB i was rooting for the Pats. i hate them but nobody is given me crap about it if they won. the Giants won and i had to hear it from family, friends, co-workers. same with the Yankees. so if i can stick it to them i will. and you should thank Steve Cohen. if it wasnt for him Judge would be in SF or SD. Hal felt pressure to give Judge whatever he wanted because Cohen is spending like crazy. Hal is pretty strict about not going over that Luxury Tax. and thank him for agreeing not to pursue Judge or he would be a Met. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, doitny said: if you grew up in NYC and had a bunch of friends chances are they were a mix of Mets, Yankees, Jets, Giants, Ranger, Islanders fans. only the Knicks were always loved cause the Nets were so bad in the 80s when i grew up. and they were NJ. having to hear about all those championships and you guys getting whoever you wanted in FA while the Mets didnt, as a teen you hear sh*t about it. i am the guy they were thinking about when they made that shirt.... im a Mets fan and whoever is playing the Yankees. im a Jets fan and whoever is playing the Giants. honestly that NE- Gaints SB i was rooting for the Pats. i hate them but nobody is given me crap about it if they won. the Giants won and i had to hear it from family, friends, co-workers. same with the Yankees. so if i can stick it to them i will. and you should thank Steve Cohen. if it wasnt for him Judge would be in SF or SD. Hal felt pressure to give Judge whatever he wanted because Cohen is spending like crazy. Hal is pretty strict about not going over that Luxury Tax. and thank him for agreeing not to pursue Judge or he would be a Met. To some extent, you're right about Cohen/Hal. Except the fact is that Judge took less money from the Yankees to stay. SD and SF offered more. But I do agree, Cohen's presence means Hal can no longer be content to spend right up to the luxury tax limit and nothing more. So, like I stated earlier in the thread, this is a positive to the Yankees, thus rendering the "suck it Yankees" posts utter nonsense. All that does is put on full display the inferiority complex is alive and well. Those people are unwittingly only embarrassing themselves. Cohen's presence though also means that a majority of teams are going to get pissed, and they're going to try to reign him in like they did with George. Changes are coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Martino is reporting that they're going to accelerate transitioning Baty to left now and figuring out where in the OF Mauricio can fit in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Martino is reporting that they're going to accelerate transitioning Baty to left now and figuring out where in the OF Mauricio can fit in. Crazy for all the money Cohen is spending that we're going to have a SS playing 3B and a young guy who played 3B playing LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Crazy for all the money Cohen is spending that we're going to have a SS playing 3B and a young guy who played 3B playing LF. It's the smart move. With the shift ending next season having Lindor and Correa on that side of the field is going to be a lot more valuable than people realize right now. Baty is better off given his athleticism but the writing is on the wall for them making a push for Ohtani and it's safe to say he'll be a centerpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: It's the smart move. With the shift ending next season having Lindor and Correa on that side of the field is going to be a lot more valuable than people realize right now. Baty is better off given his athleticism but the writing is on the wall for them making a push for Ohtani and it's safe to say he'll be a centerpiece. Defensively? Are hitters going to be more likely to hit to the opposite field? Or do you mean offensively, since their numbers will likely go up (maybe by a lot)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: Cohen's presence though also means that a majority of teams are going to get pissed, and they're going to try to rein him in like they did with George. Changes are coming. That's probably why he’s spending large now to grandfather in these contracts so that “The Cohen Tax” Part II at next years’ Owners Meetings won’t nail him further. We are firmly set for the next 5 years with some notable contracts coming off the books in the next 2-3 years. Plenty of time to get the farm system up to speed while playing competitive ballgames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I don't love it either. It's far less fun to root for a team like this than a young, hungry team. The Braves feel like they're constructed perfectly to me. I thought the Mets' plan was going to be FA for 2-3 years while developing the minors (3 first rounders this year, unless we lose one for Correa) and then try to recreate what the Braves did. But the Correa signing changes that story. I don't know how many first rounders you get. You've signed premium FA, plus when payroll goes above a certain level, those draft picks drop. I also don't know if the picks are based on last year or this year, my knowledge is poor at best on how it works now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: That's probably why he’s spending large now to grandfather in these contracts so that “The Cohen Tax” Part II at next years’ Owners Meetings won’t nail him further. We are firmly set for the next 5 years with some notable contracts coming off the books in the next 2-3 years. Plenty of time to get the farm system up to speed while playing competitive ballgames I'm pretty sure no matter what the next tax structure looks like, he's going to laugh at them and pay anyway. Like when the SEC fined his fund $2 Billion for insider trading. Slap on the wrist. These mid-market teams that voted him in are going to have some serious Buyer's Remorse I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClashFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Exciting times to be a Mets fan! Make no mistake, there's now huge pressure on Buck to get the Mets to the WS. Anything less will be a huge disappointment. You don't shell out this kind of money to not make it there. And, Cohen might even expect to win it this year. I've long felt that the Mets need to make Canha the 4th OF. He's solid all around, but doesn't hit enough to start. So, maybe Baty to LF? The Mets might have the luxury to start him and let him take his lumps for awhile to see if he develops. Baty, Mauricio, and Vientos are all now possible trade bait, too. Probably look for a SP at the deadline, or sooner. Starting pitching is probably this team's Achilles Heel. Ohtani rumors will be persistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 #1, Congrats on your signings. #2 Why the hell did the owners do the whole lock out thing just a few years ago, if they were going to go crazy like this. And that is not a shot at the Mets, teams all over are handing out massive contracts, 9, 10, 11 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Defensively? Are hitters going to be more likely to hit to the opposite field? Or do you mean offensively, since their numbers will likely go up (maybe by a lot)? Hitting to the opposite field died with Derek Jeter and Adrian Gonzalez. Maybe it returns in the distant future but certainly not any time soon. No shift means elite defensive players on the left side of the field will go back to having their old value, i.e. Rey Ordonez, Vizquel, Chavez...etc. The Mets have two elite gloves on that side of the field now and both can hit the hell out of the ball. It's a great position to be in with the change that's happening next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Hitting to the opposite field died with Derek Jeter and Adrian Gonzalez. Maybe it returns in the distant future but certainly not any time soon. No shift means elite defensive players on the left side of the field will go back to having their old value, i.e. Rey Ordonez, Vizquel, Chavez...etc. The Mets have two elite gloves on that side of the field now and both can hit the hell out of the ball. It's a great position to be in with the change that's happening next year. Also, been saying it since they announced the change: Lindor is crazy underpaid because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grandy Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Not a huge fan of the signing, but I love how dedicated Cohen is to winning. It's gonna change the game in some way. All of these teams can spend more money, and Cohen has the balls to do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, Grandy said: Not a huge fan of the signing, but I love how dedicated Cohen is to winning. It's gonna change the game in some way. All of these teams can spend more money, and Cohen has the balls to do it. Agreed. I don't love the signing (and if we were willing to spend that much, we should've gone after Judge) but these owners make more money than we know. Though I'm sure they'll still raise ticket prices and it won't be cheap to go to a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Bring Ohtani in next and let's really do this thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JetPotato said: To some extent, you're right about Cohen/Hal. Except the fact is that Judge took less money from the Yankees to stay. SD and SF offered more. But I do agree, Cohen's presence means Hal can no longer be content to spend right up to the luxury tax limit and nothing more. So, like I stated earlier in the thread, this is a positive to the Yankees, thus rendering the "suck it Yankees" posts utter nonsense. All that does is put on full display the inferiority complex is alive and well. Those people are unwittingly only embarrassing themselves. Cohen's presence though also means that a majority of teams are going to get pissed, and they're going to try to reign him in like they did with George. Changes are coming. Trigger. Activated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: All kidding aside. I definitely think this had something to do with it. Even if only a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JetPotato said: I'm pretty sure no matter what the next tax structure looks like, he's going to laugh at them and pay anyway. Like when the SEC fined his fund $2 Billion for insider trading. Slap on the wrist. These mid-market teams that voted him in are going to have some serious Buyer's Remorse I think. i could be wrong on this but doesnt the luxury tax get split between those small market teams? if not then where does it go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RutgersJetFan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Anthony Jet said: All kidding aside. I definitely think this had something to do with it. Even if only a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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