Guilhermezmc Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Laken Tomlinson really trying to get on Trumaine Johnson level of bad, he's lucky that every other lineman is injuried in this team he should be in the bench. Cut him eat the cap i dont care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositiveJet Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 The Jets can potentially cut him after this season. Only an $8MM dead cap hit and $9MM in cap savings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, PositiveJet said: The Jets can potentially cut him after this season. Only an $8MM dead cap hit and $9MM in cap savings. when you add that to the zach, mosley, berrios, etc hit.. gonna be adding up quick to cut all the crappy players we want to get rid of... might end up paying more to get rid of the bad players then what we end up paying the good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Disappointing to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, PositiveJet said: The Jets can potentially cut him after this season. Only an $8MM dead cap hit and $9MM in cap savings. June 1 cut. Split the dead money over 2 years and save $13M next year. Pretty easy decision but I say that knowing it’s Woody’s money, not mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Man, I was wrong on him. He had been a good player, knew the offense, wasn't that old for a guard. I thought he was an excellent signing at the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted December 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, chirorob said: Man, I was wrong on him. He had been a good player, knew the offense, wasn't that old for a guard. I thought he was an excellent signing at the time. We all did. I don’t think there was a single concern or detractor. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 He was playing with the best LT in the league, playing with a retired LT is showing his true colors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: when you add that to the zach, mosley, berrios, etc hit.. gonna be adding up quick to cut all the crappy players we want to get rid of... might end up paying more to get rid of the bad players then what we end up paying the good ones. All that dead cap is for money already paid to those players. It’s not really a penalty in that they do not pay more to get rid of them. All the dead cap is a sunk cost that was going to hit the cap anyway, in the same amount. They pay more to keep them if they pay them more salary. The only exception is Zach, because he has upcoming guaranteed new money coming his way. They’d have to trade him to avoid that — or find some way to get him suspended lol. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: All that dead cap is for money already paid to those players. It’s not really a penalty in that they do not pay more to get rid of them. All the dead cap is a sunk cost that was going to hit the cap anyway, in the same amount. They pay more to keep them if they pay them more salary. They are currently starters. You have to pay players to replace them too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 The Jets are simply a retirement home for fat contracts by guys looking to cash in, has even one of our high priced deals ever worked out? I guess Reed has been very good this year. Like I say every year at FA, totally buyer beware, teams do not let truly good players leave. FA is used to get some bargain guys normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Laken Tomlinson really trying to get on Trumaine Johnson level of bad, he's lucky that every other lineman is injuried in this team he should be in the bench. Cut him eat the cap i dont care He has let up 0 sacks this year and 1 penalty. Try again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: They are currently starters. You have to pay players to replace them too. No doubt, but you pay new guys instead of old guys. Most of that dead $ is because they converted/created 2022 pay into signing bonus to lessen this year’s hit. But take Tomlinson for example: they don’t pay Tomlinson any more if he’s cut. Any dead cap is because they arranged it so most of his 2022 pay was in the form of signing bonus not salary, but the amount was the same. It’s not like they gave him this gargantuan signing bonus that’s advance payment of not just his first season but into his 2nd season, too. His contract called for ~$13MM per season and he got paid just under $14MM of it last year not ~$20MM of it. If he gets injured badly enough these last 2 weeks it looks like that guarantees his salary next year. I don’t think they bench him with 2 games left, but if it’s me and I know I’m not bringing him back next year, yeah I make him inactive the last week. If the politics allowed it, cut him even, just to make sure he doesn’t get injured on Jets property lol. Same exact thing with Mosley. While his was a restructure of his 2022 pay, not a new-player signing, the same premise is there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, choon328 said: He has let up 0 sacks this year and 1 penalty. Try again Damn your pff stats are amazing!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: when you add that to the zach, mosley, berrios, etc hit.. gonna be adding up quick to cut all the crappy players we want to get rid of... might end up paying more to get rid of the bad players then what we end up paying the good ones. who cares they wont be spending up to cap next few years anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Tomlinson was a signing you question JD for. We already had a great LG. We could have found a decent RG-like Herbig. My vote for 2023 is to cut all of the underperforming rentals, spend all of the draft picks on OL, WR and maybe a QB, and build for 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: All that dead cap is for money already paid to those players. It’s not really a penalty in that they do not pay more to get rid of them. All the dead cap is a sunk cost that was going to hit the cap anyway, in the same amount. They pay more to keep them if they pay them more salary. The only exception is Zach, because he has upcoming guaranteed new money coming his way. They’d have to trade him to avoid that — or find some way to get him suspended lol. Should start slipping steroids into his food and then surprise drug test 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: Damn your pff stats are amazing!!! That stat is on every site that tracks this things bc its true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, neckdemon said: Should start slipping steroids into his food and then surprise drug test ooh that’s good 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, choon328 said: That stat is on every site that tracks this things bc its true. Yes the same sites that absolute trash him on run block and pass pro ratings but go ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: We all did. I don’t think there was a single concern or detractor. Laken had like a RAS score of 4 coming out of Duke. He was never really a special athlete, the 49ers knew that and let him go When I think about the left guard position I think about Quenton Nelson and how they traded 3 2nd picks for Sam Darnold, passing up on Quenton. But that, friends, is a tale for another night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Guilhermezmc said: Laken Tomlinson really trying to get on Trumaine Johnson level of bad, he's lucky that every other lineman is injuried in this team he should be in the bench. Cut him eat the cap i dont care The left side of the line should be fine. It is far from fine. Tomlinson is going to pay the price for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, bitonti said: Laken had like a RAS score of 4 coming out of Duke. He was never really a special athlete, the 49ers knew that and let him go When I think about the left guard position I think about Quenton Nelson and how they traded 3 2nd picks for Sam Darnold, passing up on Quenton. But that, friends, is a tale for another night A tale for another night part two: The Jets make the playoffs this season with Sam Darnold at QB and doing something different with the # 2 overall pick they called Zach Wilson. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 hours ago, bitonti said: Laken had like a RAS score of 4 coming out of Duke. He was never really a special athlete, the 49ers knew that and let him go When I think about the left guard position I think about Quenton Nelson and how they traded 3 2nd picks for Sam Darnold, passing up on Quenton. But that, friends, is a tale for another night I thought he came from the Chargers, but point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Maxman said: A tale for another night part two: The Jets make the playoffs this season with Sam Darnold at QB and doing something different with the # 2 overall pick they called Zach Wilson. #SamDarnoldTruth I am in this camp as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrodcharlie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Tomlinson is a bum. I hated that signing the day he made it. You never overpay for a guard and you especially never overpay for a flawed guard like Tomlinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said: Laken Tomlinson really trying to get on Trumaine Johnson level of bad, he's lucky that every other lineman is injuried in this team he should be in the bench. Cut him eat the cap i dont care The GM everyone was praising signed Tommy, Davis, Lawson over Judon and Hendrickson. Drafted Becton and Zach, who may be Hackenberg in drag. Darrisow who we essentially traded AVT for is a more highly regarded player at a more important position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, hmhertz said: The GM everyone was praising signed Tommy, Davis, Lawson over Judon and Hendrickson. Drafted Becton and Zach, who may be Hackenberg in drag. Darrisow who we essentially traded AVT for is a more highly regarded player at a more important position It’s comical tbh, JD isn’t the worst GM but definitely not the guy our fans hype him up to be. Can’t miss on key picks like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, hmhertz said: The GM everyone was praising Not everyone, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 hours ago, chirorob said: Man, I was wrong on him. He had been a good player, knew the offense, wasn't that old for a guard. I thought he was an excellent signing at the time. It’s hard to predict when someone will just completely mail it in. I thought he was a good character guy too but I guess he’s just a thief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: All that dead cap is for money already paid to those players. It’s not really a penalty in that they do not pay more to get rid of them. All the dead cap is a sunk cost that was going to hit the cap anyway, in the same amount. They pay more to keep them if they pay them more salary. The only exception is Zach, because he has upcoming guaranteed new money coming his way. They’d have to trade him to avoid that — or find some way to get him suspended lol. Maybe we can walk Goodells wife into the locker room at halftime next game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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