Glazer: Jets expected to move on from Zach Wilson after the season

[RSJ]

Agreed.  The Johnson Bros aren’t THAT stupid, they know they have to fumigate this massive stench as quickly as possible and the ONLY way to do that is to pay someone who already has “Been there done that..High quality Starter at some point in the NFL”…..the fans are going to accept a Minshaw type starting.

If they go get someone like Rodgers I still think they should keep Wilson. As a matter of fact Rodgers could probably save Wilson and possibly that idiot MLF at the same time. Brady could do the same thing but he would never play for a dope like MLF.


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[Jetsplayer21]

2 hours ago, johnnysd said:

That is just pure conjecture.  Been it sounds good with the recent game. I still maintain it is far far more likely the Jets fire LaFleur than get rid of Zach, They might do both but I am not seeing how LaFleur keeps his job

If they decide by some chance they keep Wilson for next yr, he is definitely going to be the number 3

[BurntDice]

22 minutes ago, Jets0712 said:

If Zach is indeed gone. This in my opinion as well would be the way to go. All we need is a capable QB. One that can make the easy throws. That is Mike White or just about any vet Qb we would bring in. And with this team around him. Our QB whoever it is will certainly not be bottom 5


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I just don’t understand the mindset why some fans want to go for guys like white to be the starter. Is he good enough to win in the playoffs? Goff is what I consider to be an average QB. Will he be better or as good as him?  He just seems like a guy who if he has an all star cast around him can make the playoffs, but then be out in the wildcard game. He also has a very troubling injury history.  With a Goff type QB you can win playoff games with a great supporting cast. 

[Warfish]

3 hours ago, johnnysd said:

That is just pure conjecture.  Been it sounds good with the recent game. I still maintain it is far far more likely the Jets fire LaFleur than get rid of Zach, They might do both but I am not seeing how LaFleur keeps his job

Think you’re in for several surprises this coming off-season.

[peekskill68]

1 hour ago, Bugg said:

Jets under Douglas and Saleh are mostly leak free. But the anger, disgust and dissappointment of this mess isn't something you can hide. 

IMO this "Zach is done" meme is more than likely coming from Team Wilson than anyone inside the building.  I think they want him out of here more than the fans do...

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

IMO this "Zach is done" meme is more than likely coming from Team Wilson than anyone inside the building.  I think they want him out of here more than the fans do...

Then the Jets should give him what he wants.

[jgb]

All seriousness — this is one of the most rapid falls from grace I can remember than didn’t involve criminal charges.

I have to believe there is more behind the scenes we don’t know.

[Zachtomims47]

Just now, jgb said:

All seriousness — this is one of the most rapid falls from grace I can remember than didn’t involve criminal charges.

I have to believe there is more behind the scenes we don’t know.

Or he just, ya know, sucks. 

[Esquire]

3 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Very curious to see if there is a team that would trade for him 

I would be shocked if there wasn't a team that would try to fix this kid.   

[Bugg]

All this production MLF has gotten with all these other QB's is WAAAAAY overblown. Streveler, seriously? Jacksonville was not prepared for him, and in garbage time he ran for a bunch of yards, Not willing to call that production.
Jets offense was putrid with Flacco this year.
Mike White's Jets had a great game against the Bears, who doesn't, a sub-par game against the Vikings, and a terrible game against the Bills.
I hope everyone is right about MLF that he is actually good, but I don't see anything close to him being good TBH

If Berrios hangs onto a catchable ball they beat the Vikings . Hung with Bills in Buffalo , so we’re you watching something else?


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[Flea Flicking Frank]

5 minutes ago, Bugg said:

If Berrios hangs onto a catchable ball they beat the Vikings . Hung with Bills in Buffalo , so we’re you watching something else?


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woulda, shoulda, coulda, didnt. Giants are another team who is putting up more points against the Vikings than the amazing Jets offense without ZW

[Lith]

3 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Very curious to see if there is a team that would trade for him 

A team traded for Rosen.  A team traded for Darnold.  THere is a team out there that will offer up something.  And don't discount the Jet factor around the league, the idea that we did not bring him along or develop him correctly and he can still play.  Someone will give up something.

[T0mShane]

33 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

IMO this "Zach is done" meme is more than likely coming from Team Wilson than anyone inside the building.  I think they want him out of here more than the fans do...

 

29 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Then the Jets should give him what he wants.

If you listen to Steve Young pre-draft, he made it sound like Team Zach and the Jets were working through a hostage negotiation to get him here in the first place. You can only imagine how they feel now. IMO, concessions and promises were made to them, and Zach’s play never justified it. Guessing both parties are sick of dealing with each other. 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Lith said:

A team traded for Rosen.  A team traded for Darnold.  THere is a team out there that will offer up something.  And don't discount the Jet factor around the league, the idea that we did not bring him along or develop him correctly and he can still play.  Someone will give up something.

It’s no coincidence that we’re hearing Bart Scott, Steve Young, Tiki Barber, Warner, etc run with “the Jets failed Zach Wilson” angle. It’s the narrative that both Zach and the Jets want out there. 

[jgb]

30 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Or he just, ya know, sucks. 

That too but I mean the locker room schism must be (even) worse than reported. For this to leak out with games left to play…

[Dunnie]

It’s no coincidence that we’re hearing Bart Scott, Steve Young, Tiki Barber, Warner, etc run with “the Jets failed Zach Wilson” angle. It’s the narrative that both Zach and the Jets want out there. 

Sorry Tom .. I'm not following ... Why would the Jets want that narrative?

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[Dunnie]

I just don’t understand the mindset why some fans want to go for guys like white to be the starter. Is he good enough to win in the playoffs? Goff is what I consider to be an average QB. Will he be better or as good as him?  He just seems like a guy who if he has an all star cast around him can make the playoffs, but then be out in the wildcard game. He also has a very troubling injury history.  With a Goff type QB you can win playoff games with a great supporting cast. 

Trent Dilfer 2.0

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[T0mShane]

Just now, Dunnie said:

Sorry Tom .. I'm not following ... Why would the Jets want that narrative?

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Because if the Jets front office wants any sort of return in the trade, they have to convince another coaching staff that Zach has a well of unlocked potential that this coaching staff, in this market, just couldn’t tap into. 

[Dunnie]

I don’t think the Jets move in from Zach after 23 games. He looks horrible but it can be fixed.  

I honestly don't know if he can fixed ... Feels Sanchez broken to me...

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[choon328]

3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I think you may need to give up picks to get rid of his contract.

A 5th and Wilson for a 7th or something.

Not a great take. His salary for next year is $3.8 million and in 2024 $5.5 million.

[peekskill68]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

If you listen to Steve Young pre-draft, he made it sound like Team Zach and the Jets were working through a hostage negotiation to get him here in the first place. You can only imagine how they feel now. IMO, concessions and promises were made to them, and Zach’s play never justified it. Guessing both parties are sick of dealing with each other. 

Mama bear has the claw's out.  It's our fault...

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, peekskill68 said:

Mama bear has the claw's out.  It's our fault...

They had just watched the Jets run Darnold into the ground with Adam Gase. No parent would trust their son to come here. 

[Ron Rico]

18 minutes ago, Lith said:

A team traded for Rosen.  A team traded for Darnold.  THere is a team out there that will offer up something.  And don't discount the Jet factor around the league, the idea that we did not bring him along or develop him correctly and he can still play.  Someone will give up something.

Our incompetence is an asset. 

[T0mShane]

For those saying we won’t get anything for Zach Wilson, he’d probably be the first QB picked in this year’s draft, even with everything the league knows about him. He’s still a more complete prospect than Stroud or Young or Levis, Richardson, etc. Someone will try and fix him

[T0mShane]

Just now, Coquito said:

Our incompetence is an asset. 

@Maxman New site motto? 

[TuscanyTile2]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If you listen to Steve Young pre-draft, he made it sound like Team Zach and the Jets were working through a hostage negotiation to get him here in the first place. You can only imagine how they feel now. IMO, concessions and promises were made to them, and Zach’s play never justified it. Guessing both parties are sick of dealing with each other. 

What do you mean by this?  That JD was trying to convince Zach (and his family) that he should agree to play in NY (rather than hold out or demand a trade)?

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

For those saying we won’t get anything for Zach Wilson, he’d probably be the first QB picked in this year’s draft, even with everything the league knows about him. He’s still a more complete prospect than Stroud or Young or Levis, Richardson, etc. Someone will try and fix him

Probably, but we're not going to get much.  Possibly some kind of conditional draft pick type thing.  

[UntouchableCrew]

8 minutes ago, choon328 said:

Not a great take. His salary for next year is $3.8 million and in 2024 $5.5 million.

That’s a lot for someone who has no chance to see the field. It’s basically a Brock Osweiler salary dump.

[Matt39]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

They had just watched the Jets run Darnold into the ground with Adam Gase. No parent would trust their son to come here. 

Saleh seems to have improved the process with this latest free agency class and draft, but good grief the level of deflection for Douglas by the fanbase is nuts. This is entirely on him. Becton too. Just not prepared to be in the NFL and the Jets draft process couldn’t pick up on it. How would anyone feel comfortable with him picking another quarterback? Saleh is a defensive coach,m and Lefleur is still young as hell.

[choon328]

3 hours ago, undertow said:

Honestly I came to terms with Wilson being a bust a year ago but I'm just starting to get pissed about the return we could have gotten for moving back...we could have Fields and also 2 first rounders this year. 

Fields is an awful QB, great runner

[Dunnie]

What do you mean by this?  That JD was trying to convince Zach (and his family) that he should agree to play in NY (rather than hold out or demand a trade)?

Yes... I believe it was close to that .. Young, like Nostradamus, was trying to convince him NY would destroy him .... And voila

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[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

@Maxman New site motto? 

All Incompetence, Few Assets!

[Dunnie]

Fields is an awful QB, great runner

... give that man a cigar

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[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, Dunnie said:

Yes... I believe it was close to that .. Young, like Nostradamus, was trying to convince him NY would destroy him .... And voila

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Unfortunately, it seems like Steve Young was correct.  

[Grandy]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

For those saying we won’t get anything for Zach Wilson, he’d probably be the first QB picked in this year’s draft, even with everything the league knows about him. He’s still a more complete prospect than Stroud or Young or Levis, Richardson, etc. Someone will try and fix him

Exactly. We will get good value if we trade him. He's mobile with a big arm and some coach and or gm is gonna get cocky and think they can fix him. We'll get a day 2 pick at minimum imo.