JustInFudge Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: I’m not even convinced that Mike White can make it through 3 or 4 games without getting hurt, much less a full season. Meanwhile Carr hasn’t missed a start since 2017 and has only missed two games in his career. He’s dependable. He’s consistent. And he’s still young enough to be our QB for 5+ years. He’s been universally regarded as a Top 12-15 QB since he entered the league. The Raiders are a complete mess and he’s dealt with sh*t defenses backing him up his entire career. Put him on this team with a Top 5 defense and a host of young talent at the skill positions and we’re in business. I cant argue any of this, nor did I knock Carr, just simply said give Mike White a full year and he could do what Carr does. Sure, the durability is a question but the Jets could also do a better job of protection as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, rangerous said: So Carr is benched and stud ham starts. This just means little Josh’s is jockeying for draft position. Nah, just Davis being cheap, they're pretty much eliminated from the playoffs and Carr's contract is guaranteed for $40M if he can't pass a physical. Why risk it at this point? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: From your lips to God’s ears. If this happens it means a lot of things are going to go right in the next three (plus?) weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, BurntDice said: How many passing tds did White put up against the #32 pass D in the league again? Oh right 0. Greg was the mvp of that game. 5/5 fgs Who the hell is Greg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Dunnie said: Maybe LV wants him out and off the books .. so might eat half that 40mill ? D Carr G Minshew Z Wilson QB room could be worse. why minshew in this situation? doubt he would come here to be a backup. keep mike white 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Who the hell is Greg? Greg the leg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why would I be concerned with something I don't think will happen as part of the analysis? Cross that bridge when we get there. White has the final 2 games to prove he can be more durable than he's shown. If he doesn't, he doesn't. I don't think I've seen you comment on his injury history yet. If he continues at the same rate he'll get knocked out of one of the 2. Considering he'll probably be wearing a flak jacket and the opposing defense will be looking to punish him it's a good test of his durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 hours ago, undertow said: What a sad state of affairs....two years ago we have the 2nd overall pick with plenty of QBs on the board now we are arguing over trash cans like Derrick Carr and Gardner Minshew. Z Wilson T Lance J Fields M Jones Those are the QBs on the board when the Jets picked. Lance can't get on the field. He hasn't played more than a few games since 2019. That will be four seasons of inactivity come next season. Fields right now is a running back playing QB. I would clearly take him over Wilson, but the jury is still out on whether Fields is an NFL QB. Mac Jones is a weak armed pompous ass whose ceiling may be an NFL back up. I agree Wilson was a bust, but it looks like Lawrence may be the only QB in that class who amounts to anything. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Jets4Life1979 said: And your Jets starting QB in 2023......Derek Carr......let's go! Yes go ban yourself save the mods the trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I don't think I've seen you comment on his injury history yet. If he continues at the same rate he'll get knocked out of one of the 2. Considering he'll probably be wearing a flak jacket and the opposing defense will be looking to punish him it's a good test of his durability. I've said a few times its the only legitimate reason to knock him. But if he proves to be more durable than he's shown he's earned QB1 (or at least QB1a) duties. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Gastineau Lives said: Based on what Watching football 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: Carr has impact players on the Raiders esp Adams, Waller, Jacobs, etc. And it hasn't really worked for them. It's not a one player thing a new offense and HC etc. But the talent he has with the Raiders exceeds the Jets. Except the Oline. After week 3 of the season PFF rated the Raiders Oline 30th in NFL. https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/28/offensive-line-for-raiders-ranked-at-no-30-by-pro-football-focus/ Carr played this entire season without his top 3 targets ever being on the field together - Adams, Renfro, Waller. Renfro and Waller basically were injured this entire season. Then add in the McDaniels factor. This guy drafted Tebow. He's a QB killer. I'd give it a shot if he can be had without having to pay that contract in full. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Carr played this entire season without his top 3 targets ever being on the field together - Adams, Renfro, Waller. Renfro and Waller basically were injured this entire season. Then add in the McDaniels factor. This guy drafted Tebow. He's a QB killer. I'd give it a shot if he can be had without having to pay that contract in full. I thought McDaniel was good with Qbs he worked great for years with Brady. He's just been highly unsuccessful as a HC. Very good OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, JiFields said: I cant argue any of this, nor did I knock Carr, just simply said give Mike White a full year and he could do what Carr does. Sure, the durability is a question but the Jets could also do a better job of protection as well. They can get Mike White to put on ten pounds of muscle and take up Pilates, but they’re never getting Derek Carr to play for under $30 mil. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Watching football 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, rangerous said: So Carr is benched and stud ham starts. Well, that is just the greatest nickname ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, BurntDice said: Greg the leg! Are you on a first name basis with him? Best buddies forever? Cmon. The Vikings kicker is also Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: "le dunk de la mort" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I thought McDaniel was good with Qbs he worked great for years with Brady. He's just been highly unsuccessful as a HC. Very good OC. Did he really have anything to do with Brady's success? Or was it Belichick? Or just Brady? He has been a train wreck as a HC this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 We are going to know who our QB is in 2023 on Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Are you on a first name basis with him? Best buddies forever? Cmon. The Vikings kicker is also Greg. I didn’t think it would be that hard to piece together someone saying Greg was 5/5 with fgs against the Vikings to figure out who was being discussed, but here we are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: You know what this means… That Joe doesn’t know his QBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: It never should have even gotten to that point. But it did. They had the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Well, that is just the greatest nickname ever. Crapple spell check. Subbed stud ham for stidam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, rangerous said: Crapple spell check. Subbed stud ham for stidam. Stidham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post derp Posted December 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, doitny said: Carr has been a good QB for his career. even if he took a step back he is better than anyone we are going to get. be serious, Brady isnt coming here. you think Belichick was they only Pat who hated us and enjoyed running up the score on us? Rodgers will not be available unless JD gives them half the farm in a trade and that will hurt our future. we cant go crazy giving up multiple #1s for a almost 40 yr old QB Minshew is ok but Carr is better. White is ok and if he hits a HR these next 2 weeks he will probably be the guy but is he better than Carr? with this move by the Raiders Carrs value just went down, plus his bad year. we could get him for a #1 and a #3. i would take him So the plan is for a 7 to 9 win team with $20M in cap space and 2/5 starting OL and three starting defenders hitting free agency to give a 1 and a 3 for a QB with a $30-35M cap number who leads the league in interceptions and quarterbacked a middle of the road yardage and scoring offense despite playing with the league’s leading rusher and a top five at worst receiver? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Did he really have anything to do with Brady's success? Or was it Belichick? Or just Brady? He has been a train wreck as a HC this season. The fact he even got another shot after what he did to the colts is shocking… he’s Adam Gase lite… thinks he’s smarter than everyone and has made the situation worse. He should go crawling back to bill like Patricia, judge, and all the others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Rangers9 said: Carr has impact players on the Raiders esp Adams, Waller, Jacobs, etc. And it hasn't really worked for them. It's not a one player thing a new offense and HC etc. But the talent he has with the Raiders exceeds the Jets. Except the Oline. After week 3 of the season PFF rated the Raiders Oline 30th in NFL. https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/28/offensive-line-for-raiders-ranked-at-no-30-by-pro-football-focus/ Waller hasn’t been healthy 2 seasons now. This years Jets have more impact players, especially if Breece is playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Interesting Carr stat: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: I've said a few times it’s the only legitimate reason to knock him. But if he proves to be more durable than he's shown he's earned QB1 (or at least QB1a) duties. Period. he takes the check down too soon and throws short of the sticks on 3rd down too often. he is an easy target to sack, even when he does survive the hit. Where did you fall in the Pennington debates ? Just curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Watching football What a goofy answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: They can get Mike White to put on ten pounds of muscle and take up Pilates, but they’re never getting Derek Carr to play for under $30 mil. He’s 27 years old, not 19. Cement feet are for life, trust me on that lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: They can get Mike White to put on ten pounds of muscle and take up Pilates, but they’re never getting Derek Carr to play for under $30 mil. i would be OK with Carr for 30 mil 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 This makes me believe Tom Brady (Free agent) and Gronk join McDaniels in Vegas next year and try to win a SB with their 3rd team. Brady to Adams is in the works. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, NYDreamer said: This makes me believe Tom Brady (Free agent) and Gronk join McDaniels in Vegas next year and try to win a SB with their 3rd team. Brady to Adams is in the works. I can see this happening actually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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